Breakthrough in CDC vaping illness investigation: Vitamin E acetate and THC may be to blame

[Mazinny]

Breakthrough in CDC vaping illness investigation: Vitamin E acetate and THC may be to blame - CNN

CDC says it's made a breakthrough in finding possible cause of deadly vaping illness

Vaping Illnesses Linked to Vitamin E Acetate, C.D.C. Says

“For the first time, we have detected a potential toxin of concern, vitamin E acetate, from biological samples from patients,” with lung damage linked to vaping, Dr. Anne Schuchat, principal deputy director of the C.D.C., said at a news briefing. The samples, she said, “provided evidence of vitamin E acetate at the primary site of injury in the lungs.”

Samples taken from the patients were also tested for plant oils, petroleum distillates like mineral oil and other potentially harmful substances, which were “notably not detected,” the C.D.C. said. The findings are being published in Friday’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.

About 70 percent of the patients are male, 79 percent are younger than 35 and 86 percent say that they have vaped THC.

 

[john1211]

surprise, surprise

 

[icepickmaker84]

I liked the CIA Careers link under the article.

 

[Haktuspit]

So basically it took them two months longer than us to come up with the obvious conclusion. Sounds about right.

 

[Astron]

On Twitter nearly every single news org is tweeting this out. Great news, and I’m glad it is coming out, but is the damage done? I’m so mad my brain

 

[Baditude]

On Twitter nearly every single news org is tweeting this out. Great news, and I’m glad it is coming out, but is the damage done?

The disclosure that it was definitely a chemical found in black market THC cartridges and not anything to do with nicotine vaping may soften the blow and shock should Trump announce his administration is no longer in favor of a flavor ban next week.

I can be optimistic, can't I?

 

[Eskie]

The disclosure that it was definitely a chemical found in black market THC cartridges and not anything to do with nicotine vaping may soften the blow and shock should Trump announce his administration is no longer in favor of a flavor ban next week.

I can be optimistic, can't I?

The timing is fortuitous if any bans will remain in the “e cig/cigalike “ convenience store market and an age raised to 21 is the extent of what to expect, but we still have until next week for this to be clarified.

Besides, we still have May to look forward to as whatever that will bring. This might be a last minute reprieve before the Supreme Court rejects our appeal of our death sentence. We’re just dead a little later.

Hopefully it does build in more time for the ongoing stockpiling up to the very last moment. I feel terrible for Vape shop owners. Are you out of business next week, in six months, it maybe longer. Great way to plan your life.

 

[Don29palms]

The disclosure that it was definitely a chemical found in black market THC cartridges and not anything to do with nicotine vaping may soften the blow and shock should Trump announce his administration is no longer in favor of a flavor ban next week.

I can be optimistic, can't I?

Anything is possible. All we can do is wait and see. The battle really begins in May 2020.

 

[Astron]

The disclosure that it was definitely a chemical found in black market THC cartridges and not anything to do with nicotine vaping may soften the blow and shock should Trump announce his administration is no longer in favor of a flavor ban next week.

I can be optimistic, can't I?

Most certainly! I would not begrudge anyone their opinion this is a great movement forward to truth, but I am going to be angry about this for a long, long time. And the “BUT TEH CHILDREN” garbage is still out there.

I’m cracking up [ETA: not really laughing; just noting the hypocrisy of the sudden rush to cover this development] that CNN, NBC, Forbes, ABCNews, WSJ, NYT, WaPo, etc all FALLING over themselves to report this. I want to shove this news up the keisters of my local
news stations who have delighted so much in demonizing nicotine vaping.

 

[icepickmaker84]

Most certainly! I would not begrudge anyone their opinion this is a great movement forward to truth, but I am going to be angry about this for a long, long time. And the “BUT TEH CHILDREN” garbage is still out there.

I’m cracking up that CNN, NBC, Forbes, ABCNews, WSJ, NYT, WaPo, etc all FALLING over themselves to report this. I want to shove this news up the keisters of my local
news stations who have delighted so much in demonizing nicotine vaping.

A local school system held a meeting to discuss the dangers of vaping with parents. Not one shred of useful information was shared.


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[Mazinny]

I’m cracking up that CNN, NBC, Forbes, ABCNews, WSJ, NYT, WaPo, etc all FALLING over themselves to report this. I want to shove this news up the keisters of my local
news stations who have delighted so much in demonizing nicotine vaping.

What are you cracking up over? For months we've been hearing about the epidemic, and it seems the culprit has been identified through actual testing on lung tissue samples. This is pretty big news.

 

[Baditude]

Most certainly! I would not begrudge anyone their opinion this is a great movement forward to truth, but I am going to be angry about this for a long, long time. And the “BUT TEH CHILDREN” garbage is still out there.

I’m cracking up that CNN, NBC, Forbes, ABCNews, WSJ, NYT, WaPo, etc all FALLING over themselves to report this. I want to shove this news up the keisters of my local
news stations who have delighted so much in demonizing nicotine vaping.

I'm thinking that the long term fallout with the CDC's delayed report could have legal consequences for the CDC. Their vague and misleading announcements up to this point borders on criminal negligence, in my opinion.

The FDA announced nearly a month earlier that the illnesses and deaths could be attributed to Vit E acetate in black market THC. Why did it take the CDC so long to come to the same conclusion?

 

[Astron]

What are you cracking up over? For months we've been hearing about the epidemic, and it seems the culprit has been identified through actual testing on lung tissue samples. This is pretty big news.

it is an ironic, bitter laughter.
Thank you for asking!

 

[Mazinny]

it is an ironic, bitter laughter.
Thank you for asking!

Oh, I don't really get it, but you're welcome!

 

[stols001]

A local school system held a meeting to discuss the dangers of vaping with parents. Not one shred of useful information was shared.

Um, it was a school.... Do you honestly expect a SINGLE shred of useful information to be disseminated to the parents OR the students?

COME ON NOW THOSE DAYS ARE LONG GONE.

Anna

 

[icepickmaker84]

Um, it was a school.... Do you honestly expect a SINGLE shred of useful information to be disseminated to the parents OR the students?

COME ON NOW THOSE DAYS ARE LONG GONE.

Anna

True.

 

[Nermal]

On Twitter nearly every single news org is tweeting this out. Great news, and I’m glad it is coming out, but is the damage done? I’m so mad my brain

I'm not a business person, but it is surely difficult to run a business when you don't know if you are going to be shut down from one day to the next. Do you have a fire sale to run down inventory, or do you keep on hoping for the best. I speculate that when a business does shut its doors, it will stay shut down. Who needs the stress?

 

[Don29palms]

I'm not a business person, but it is surely difficult to run a business when you don't know if you are going to be shut down from one day to the next. Do you have a fire sale to run down inventory, or do you keep on hoping for the best. I speculate that when a business does shut its doors, it will stay shut down. Who needs the stress?

Fortunately here in the US when one business closes another opens if there is a demand to support it. I do feel bad for the people in the vaping business right now. The writing has been there for a while now and it looks like the book is coming to an end in May 2020. I'm sure there will be a sequel.

 

[Eskie]

I'm thinking that the long term fallout with the CDC's delayed report could have legal consequences for the CDC. Their vague and misleading announcements up to this point borders on criminal negligence, in my opinion.

The FDA announced nearly a month earlier that the illnesses and deaths could be attributed to Vit E acetate in black market THC. Why did it take the CDC so long to come to the same conclusion?

The funny thing is the most responsible reporting of the last months were in the NYT and the WSJ. Everyone else treated it like a breathless breaking news national emergency. I’m glad enough data was finally collected to support what was happening and clearing nicotine based stuff. They accomplished the most important part in identifying the agent in the lung tissue itself closing the circle to make sound conclusions.

 

[badinfluence357]

I quess they did their job finding something that we already knew from the first reports. But that damage has been done and it isnt over yet...

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