Building kayfun is insanity - is there better rta ?

[Prometheus72]

you know you CAN slide the wires into the holes BELOW the screws if you really want to and it will work just fine. I have had to do this when I do multi twisted coils and the wire is too thick to get under the screws. That being said, if you're using just single wire then yes, wrap the wire around the screw head for a better connection. It's easy, and honestly if you CAN NOT build a kayfun...you might want to think about not building at all. Just sayin

 

[jchadbourne]

Imo nothing is better than a kayfun

 

[Prometheus72]

THE elven queen makes rebuilding much more easier.
Look at this beauty.

what is that and where do i find one???

 

[Susaz]

I don't need the screws, but if flexsr has a Rocket this might help him .

I actually don't use my Rocket any more. Never really liked the limited draw and power limitation it suffers from, even after I Dremeled out the juice channels and drilled out the air holes best I could. I have a Aqua running dual coils now that is working excellent for me once I figured out how to bottom fill it

Try the Fogger V4, easier to work than the Aqua. Build quality isn't stellar, but it's a better vape than the Aqua. Fancy a spanish vid?

 

[Axismundixl]

what is that and where do i find one???

http://www.erlkoenigin.com/en/the_erlkoenigin

Source

 

[regal55]

not all the practice in the world will give you a third hand. I wasted weeks practicing. Don't waste you time for these abortions, get a good RDA.

 

[ForeverDiving]

not all the practice in the world will give you a third hand. I wasted weeks practicing. Don't waste you time for these abortions, get a good RDA.

Regal, I love RDAs and have threefold drippers as tanks (including nefarious gennys). On the tank lineup I have Kayfuns 3.1, Lites, Lite+ and +2; Foggers 4 (two of them), one UD Aga T7, several gennys and last but not least an Erlkönigin with two tanks. Also I have more RDAs than I can count with my fingers, some are super easy to build on, e.g. the Igo L (simple) or the Helios (not so simple), some are demanding and some <female dogs epithet> to even thread, like the Igo W2. However, as tanks go, you won't find easier than a Kayfun. Not even the polished Erlkönigin (actually this one is exacting!).

Check my reply for you on the other Kayfun thread. Did the build in just a few minutes and it's perfect! As mentioned there, I don't have a third hand, I'm 67 and my glove size is 9/XL. The pics show how to.

 

[ForeverDiving]

you know you CAN slide the wires into the holes BELOW the screws if you really want to and it will work just fine. I have had to do this when I do multi twisted coils and the wire is too thick to get under the screws. That being said, if you're using just single wire then yes, wrap the wire around the screw head for a better connection. It's easy, and honestly if you CAN NOT build a KayFun...you might want to think about not building at all. Just sayin

Concur 100%. I don't use the holes on the kayfuns even if they have, it just gives you longer legs on your coil and that's wasted resistance. What works for me down to 28ga (no point using lower resistance on a Kf) is to wrap the wire aroind the screws. I build on a toothpick and cut my legs about two inches long to heve a lot of wire to grab. Raise the screws some 2mm above the poles, place the toothpick over the airhole and loop around the screws. First one and tighten, then the other. Works everytime.

From another thread:

Check the other post, it was 26 minutes from picking the Kay to disassembly and wash to be vaping on it with a 1.0Ω build.

 

[Despraci]

Hey all,

Ok - I give up - without 3 hands building the one kayfun clone I have is pure insanity for me - 3 hands and can bang it out one two three

Is there an rta out there that has good flavoring but easier to build - like with holes instead of screws to wrap around (I know kayfun has holes below the screws but I never see anyone use them -

What is an rta that I can go to next that has clones available and is little easier to build ?

Thanks so much

I think the reason nobody uses the holes is to keep the coil up off the deck. I actually wrap my leads counter clockwise, but you have to be careful of shorts, but it does make wrapping the lead a lot easier. I use the method of wicking and the putting the bottom chimney section on and the cutting and stuffing it, just make sure the juice channel isn't blocked. With practice it does get easier. But if you want another tank, have you thought about one that use a replaceable coil like a Nautilus?

From an RBA standpoint, none are really easy at first. I find Gennies to be a pain, and a Fogger v4 might be a little more forgiving for you.

 

[regal55]

Concur 100%. I don't use the holes on the kayfuns even if they have, it just gives you longer legs on your coil and that's wasted resistance. What works for me down to 28ga (no point using lower resistance on a Kf) is to wrap the wire aroind the screws. I build on a toothpick and cut my legs about two inches long to heve a lot of wire to grab. Raise the screws some 2mm above the poles, place the toothpick over the airhole and loop around the screws. First one and tighten, then the other. Works everytime.

From another thread:

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Check the other post, it was 26 minutes from picking the Kay to disassembly and wash to be vaping on it with a 1.0Ω build.

If you can do that you should have been a surgeon. The KLF is so unuser friendly its a joke. Poorly engineered for building.

 

[ForeverDiving]

If you can do that you should have been a surgeon. The KLF is so unuser friendly its a joke. Poorly engineered for building.

Not even remotely, I'm a mech engineer & MBA. I flunked organic chemistry and biology in prep school. Now, truly, my first builds were pathetic. It only requires practice. Finishing building a Fogger 4 at 1.1Ω as we speak... Now, that's a finicky one!







Sorry for the crappy pics. Done with the webcam of my notebook.

PS, oops, 1.0Ω...

 

[ForeverDiving]

I think the reason nobody uses the holes is to keep the coil up off the deck. I actually wrap my leads counter clockwise, but you have to be careful of shorts, but it does make wrapping the lead a lot easier. I use the method of wicking and the putting the bottom chimney section on and the cutting and stuffing it, just make sure the juice channel isn't blocked. With practice it does get easier. But if you want another tank, have you thought about one that use a replaceable coil like a Nautilus?

From an RBA standpoint, none are really easy at first. I find Gennies to be a pain, and a Fogger v4 might be a little more forgiving for you.

FWIW, I have two Nautilus and two Aerotanks; they were my first step up from egos and vivinovas & clearos. When I first got them I was ready to g to war for them but actually they're quirky like few other attys in vapedom; not to mention that intending to rebuild them is indeed sheer madness. Possible sure but I'd rather spend the $5~$7 and just dump the head. Besides they're quite limited in resistance range. For what you spend in heads in a month you can get a very nice RDA from FT.

I have to insist that imperfect as Kayfuns are --tight draw, leak prone (at least the 3.1 clones), seal quirky- they are the easiest tanks to build. Now if you need an easier build you have to get an IGO-L. One coil, two posts, uncluttered deck, but then you will have to be dripping every five~ten draws. The Helios is great too but it's a dual coil RDA. For somebody struggling with a Kayfun build, hardly recomended.

 

[HauntedMyst]

Hey all,

Ok - I give up - without 3 hands building the one kayfun clone I have is pure insanity for me - 3 hands and can bang it out one two three

Here is your third hand. RBA Stand Actually, send them an email and ask them for their atty building stand. Its awesome and something every vendor should have.

 

[rondasherrill]

If you can do that you should have been a surgeon. The KLF is so unuser friendly its a joke. Poorly engineered for building.

You should've been around for the Scubagen days... Rolling a 2" peice of stainless steel mesh, shaping it into a perfect "U" shape and getting it to hold that shape without bends or kinks, torching so that the mesh wouldn't short out on the body of the atomizer, and THEN wrapping your coil into the middle of that "U".

THAT was an unfriendly atomizer to get going, but when you did, no sub-ohming or anything could match the flavor and vapor production. I eventually let mine go, but I wish I hadn't. Two good lung hits(it had a nice easy draw) were enough to completely cloud up a car. (Not one to use while driving LOL)

 

[Despraci]

Wasn't there a device you had to tack weld the silver wire with a camera flash in the early days. Basically shocking yourself every time you did a tack, and then in the end the wire was fragile and would often break when making the coil...hence starting over and over. If I had to either of these two methods now a days, I'd still be smoking.

 

[rondasherrill]

Wasn't there a device you had to tack weld the silver wire with a camera flash in the early days. Basically shocking yourself every time you did a tack, and then in the end the wire was fragile and would often break when making the coil...hence starting over and over. If I had to either of these two methods now a days, I'd still be smoking.

Haha that must have been before my time, or during my away time. I missed hearing about that, but I would've skipped that one.

 

[Despraci]

Haha that must have been before my time, or during my away time. I missed hearing about that, but I would've skipped that one.

I found it... And people still do it today. It was R/NR builds. Eventually they did create a small tack welder to make it a little easier without getting shocked.

 

[ForeverDiving]

Hey all,

Ok - I give up - without 3 hands building the one kayfun clone I have is pure insanity for me - 3 hands and can bang it out one two three

Is there an rta out there that has good flavoring but easier to build - like with holes instead of screws to wrap around (I know kayfun has holes below the screws but I never see anyone use them -

What is an rta that I can go to next that has clones available and is little easier to build ?

Thanks so much

Check this video, made specially for you and regal55.

From the Uruapan Detention Facility for the Criminally Insane.

 

[regal55]

With drippers I've lost about any desire to spend another week trying to build a KFL.

 

[ForeverDiving]

Drippers on my desk, tanks for driving and reunions.