Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

[earthpig]

Mine never stops. Meter never comes close to even finding a number.

Well, I ran the Bloog 3ohm on a 808 up against the Boge 2ohm and vape was similar. I couldn't even taste the juice flavor over the tainted flavor of the Boge cart. It was obnoxiously bad. Bloog was good (to me), and on it's 4th refill.
At first I thought the Boge would clear up if I just ran more juice through it. I refilled it once...no change.
I did try a adapter and ran it on a 808 battery, with very airy draw and less vapor due to it. Still tasted bad.

I've got a mess of prefilled empties (50 or so) coming in the mail (cheapies) that need boiled. I'm going to throw that Boge in the boil and see if it helps it. I can't use it otherwise. Now the other 9 I bought, we will see. Maybe it was a freak....boy I hope so.

Porky

 

[beachpuff]

I also always have a small battery in my purse and in my car, a good old V4L manual regular or an auto, like Bloog or SmokeStik. They are really good auto batteries. I like the autos when I'm driving.

Aloha Katya

Someone is selling me their Hendu, and I'm wondering if you have any recommendations for RN4081 cartos? Are you using SmokeStik's exclusively? I've found some with other vendors, but I'm reading conflicting reports about the blanks (some taste funny, etc.).

Are SmokeStik's the only ones that don't burn?

Have you tried an atty with your Smokestik? Do you need another piece or can you put the atty directly on the battery & go?

Have you ever tried an adapter to use your SmokeStik batts with kr808 or 510 cartos? I found the adapter but I'm wondering if its worth it.

 

[earthpig]

Katya.
Carto (Boge 2 ohm) was toasted bad. It was a ball of toasted coil and batting. So bad I couldn't even separate the coil from the batting. I didn't even recognize the burnt taste, It was unlike that of other partially smoked carto's from the past. All I can think is I didn't let it sit long enough to wickup before initial use. I gave it probably 20 minutes.

Oh. The meter for some reason now is zeroing . I get .3ohm on the leads, so today the dual coils came in. I ran ohms on one.
1.5 ohms, after the .3ohm correction. Wooo Baby, Something is gonna happen. It might be good...or not.

Smoked Pork

 

[Katya]

Aloha, Puff!

No, I'm not using SS cartos exclusively at all. I prefer lower resistance 4081 cartos on my Hendu. SS cartos are very good, but I like them on higher voltages than the Hendu (~3.4-3.6v).

I'm a fan of SmokeStik, both the people who run it and the product, so I may be a little biased, but I'll try not to be. Yes, the Hendu is pretty and shiny and performs very well. AFAIK, Hendu was the first supermini with the new, improved switch. Bloog came later. I don't know if they use the very same technology, I suspect that they do. I really can't tell the difference between the two. When used side by side, the Bloog seems a bit stronger, but keep in mind that my Hendus are almost a year old and should be dead by now. But they refuse to die. I also own a SS Pitbull (a mini) and several bejeweled SS batteries. Hendu is still my hands down favorite. Those batteries are not true 3.7v batteries, like the kr808s; they regulate somewhere around 3.4v under load (for a Pitbull, as reported by Scottbee) and 3.6v for the Bloog (per Leaford).

SmokeStik cartos are phenomenally good. They have a horizontal coil, do not burn if kept moist, are easy to refill and taste clean. My problem with them is that they are 3.3-3.5Ω, which is way too high a resistance for 3.4-3.6v batteries. A 3.5Ω SS carto on a 3.5v battery will generate a paltry 3.5 Watts, that's really not enough, while a 2.5Ω Bloog on a 3.6v battery gives you 5.1 Watts. That's a huge difference.

Below is on overview of 4081 cartomizers, but it's outdated again.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...1-etc-filler-type-cartos-297.html#post2144950

Rob at GP carries the 2.5Ω 4081 cartos only at the moment, I liked them alot, but I'm not sure if the ones he carries now the same. One can never be sure. Neo might know better. He used to carry prefilled 3.0Ω cartos--I really liked them. If you order from him, he carries the least expensive adapters ($0.99). However, 4081>anything adapters are very hard to find. If you're getting a Hendu, just use it with 4081 cartos.

The NEW GP Double Deuce 22 Cartomizers

Salt uses the Boge 4081 cartomizers, available, usually, at Liberty Flights. They are out at the moment. Just be advised that a 2.0Ω carto will mow through your 180 mAh battery very quickly. But you may enjoy the ride.

 

[ejoker]

i finally got to order some of ikens gold 510s - woot!!

 

[Katya]

Katya.
Carto (Boge 2 ohm) was toasted bad. It was a ball of toasted coil and batting. So bad I couldn't even separate the coil from the batting. I didn't even recognize the burnt taste, It was unlike that of other partially smoked carto's from the past. All I can think is I didn't let it sit long enough to wickup before initial use. I gave it probably 20 minutes.

Oh. The meter for some reason now is zeroing . I get .3ohm on the leads, so today the dual coils came in. I ran ohms on one.
1.5 ohms, after the .3ohm correction. Wooo Baby, Something is gonna happen. It might be good...or not.

Smoked Pork

Where did you get those? They are clearly LR. You have to be very careful with them.

Kent uses them on his Tornado, or at least used to, but he always advised to keep them very wet, almost to the point of overflowing. I never had any luck with anything lower than 2.0Ω. [Multimeter is your friend. ]

You may also try to fill them with a syringe. It really makes a difference. At least the very first time. You want to make sure the liquid get all the way down and saturates the filler properly. BR and Salt talked me into doing it this way and I haven't burned a Boge since (2.0Ω, mind you).

 

[Katya]

i finally got to order some of ikens gold 510s - woot!!

Which ones did you get? The vertical Drip Tips or the horizontal coil?

 

[ejoker]

the gold v2, no drip tip (i gots plenty of those).

 

[Kent C]

Where did you get those? They are clearly LR. You have to be very careful with them.

Kent uses them on his Tornado, or at least used to, but he always advised to keep them very wet, almost to the point of overflowing. I never had any luck with anything lower than 2.0Ω. [Multimeter is your friend. ]

I had some 1.8-2.0 boges from COV that I was using at one point but, if you recall, I said they didn't have much of a lifespan. I started using them after Provapes stopped selling the 1.5s but then when the mega atty LRs came I started using them. Not long after that the 1.5 on them was too much even for habana reserve so I went back to the regular mega attys/carts - and duly noted it for you But you are now using some LR's correct? The LR tanks are rated (and metered) at 1.7Ω and I don't have the same problems as I had with the LR mega attys - .2Ω's evidently is the difference?? Seems like it wouldn't be that significant but put into the formula it is evidently. I never cared for the 2.0 cartos from ikenvape - didn't notice the .2 difference with them and they went rather quickly.

 

[Katya]

Very nice choice. I like them a lot! I also love Isaac's Premium Platinum cartos.

Enjoy and let us us know how you like them, will you?

 

[ejoker]

indubitably.

 

[Katya]

I had some 1.8-2.0 boges from COV that I was using at one point but, if you recall, I said they didn't have much of a lifespan. I started using them after Provapes stopped selling the 1.5s but then when the mega atty LRs came I started using them. Not long after that the 1.5 on them was too much even for habana reserve so I went back to the regular mega attys/carts - and duly noted it for you But you are now using some LR's correct? The LR tanks are rated (and metered) at 1.7Ω and I don't have the same problems as I had with the LR mega attys - .2Ω's evidently is the difference?? Seems like it wouldn't be that significant but put into the formula it is evidently. I never cared for the 2.0 cartos from ikenvape - didn't notice the .2 difference with them and they went rather quickly.

Well, well, well... Look who's here! Kent C! Long time...

Yes, I remember that Provape alternated between the 1.5Ω SLBs and Boges. I think I got the SLBs--they all fried.

I'm using my LR eGo-t (Tornado-t ?) from TW and I like it. Mine came at 1.8Ω and works great; I love it on my eGo. I use the regular 2.1Ω eGo-t atties on my 3.7v SE Rivas.

I don't think I ever tried an IKV 2.0 cartos. My favorite IKV 510 (the Drip Tip and the Premium Platinum) both measure ~2.5Ω.

Good to see you again here! Thanks for stopping by.

 

[ejoker]

i also use the lr ego-t (tw) on an se riva (lf). i didn't meter it but it performs very nicely.

 

[Kent C]

Well, well, well... Look who's here! Kent C! Long time...

Yes, I remember that Provape alternated between the 1.5Ω SLBs and Boges. I think I got the SLBs--they all fried.

I'm using my LR eGo-t (Tornado-t ?) from TW and I like it. Mine came at 1.8Ω and works great; I love it on my eGo. I use the regular 2.1Ω eGo-t atties on my 3.7v SE Rivas.

I don't think I ever tried an IKV 2.0 cartos. My favorite IKV 510 (the Drip Tip and the Premium Platinum) both measure ~2.5Ω.

Good to see you again here! Thanks for stopping by.

It Has been a long time - 9 days - which is about 30 pages here Thought you mentioned the LR - the tanks - that was it. I'm using the LR tanks on my SE Riva and it's working - no flavor loss... I also ordered an 'E-power' batt from madvapes today:

E-Power Replacable Battery eGo kit!

This is some of my 'bunker mentality' - why I have have gold, ammo and freeze dried food ie. in this case, a step away from proprietary - but also looking for the 3.7v jolt as well. I have enough 'regular ohm'd' stuff in 510 that it will help.

do svidaniya

 

[beachpuff]

Aloha, Puff!

Rob at GP carries the 2.5Ω 4081 cartos only at the moment, I liked them alot, but I'm not sure if the ones he carries now the same. One can never be sure. Neo might know better. He used to carry prefilled 3.0Ω cartos--I really liked them. If you order from him, he carries the least expensive adapters ($0.99). However, 4081>anything adapters are very hard to find. If you're getting a Hendu, just use it with 4081 cartos.

Thank you so much Katya! Picked up a pack from GP, along with the kr808 adapter just for kicks. Can't wait to try out my new "bling"

GP is having a great sale, so I ordered the tank stuff from him too.

 

[earthpig]

Katya

The dual coils.
I found em at Hoosier e-cig company, but they are out now. They were also available at a few other sites as well.
Madvapes sells em as well, but also are out right now.
Sounds like they're tough to come by. I nearly cleaned out Hoosier's stock and next morning it was all gone.

Thanks for the advice on em.

Bacon

 

[Neo]

Rob at GP carries the 2.5Ω 4081 cartos only at the moment, I liked them alot, but I'm not sure if the ones he carries now the same. One can never be sure. Neo might know better. He used to carry prefilled 3.0Ω cartos--I really liked them. If you order from him, he carries the least expensive adapters ($0.99). However, 4081>anything adapters are very hard to find. If you're getting a Hendu, just use it with 4081 cartos.

Last I heard these were the same as he's been carrying. I've asked him a zillion times to get back the 3.0's which I much prefer over the 2.5's. He says he'll try so that makes me think the factory might have stopped making them or something.

The coffee ones are one of the few prefilled that I actually like.

The 2.5's run too hot for me. I have to run them on a 901 batt w/ adapter.

 

[Katya]

I was hoping you'd come to my rescue! Thanks, Neo. Yes, I still have a couple of Rob's menthols. I like the coffee, too. I have no idea why he can't get them. Maybe you and I were his only customers.

I tried so many 4081s that my head is spinning, but the old Truemans form China were the best. I got a sample from Tib, it was great. Then Witchway sent me a sample of Truemans 510 from the same co-op. Never to be had again. It's a shame.

Aquavapor was supposed to carry the Farsee 4081s but it never happened. The box I got from them was awful. I didn't care for the Vapor Kings version either--3.8Ω???? Anybody else selling 4081s?

 

[Neo]

Those Trueman's from China were just the best. It's too bad they couldn't get their act together...from what I knew it seemed like a poor business plan.

I did try 4081's from Ross. They were ok. I ended up giving a bunch of them to a friend I got vaping (who started on those Smoking Everywhere things and was delighted to discover cartos that fit them).

Maybe I'll bug Rob one more time.

I don't know...I don't think this model is very popular. They are hard to find. I like SS but they are just way too expensive.

 

[Katya]

When did you order from Ross? I got one box from him a long time ago and they were just nasty. He was very unhappy about them himself. Are the new ones better?