Burning Cartomisers? Dangerous?-510/Kr808/4081...etc filler type cartos

[tiburonfirst]

The Russians are coming! I have no idea what you're talking about, but I'm all ears.

here's the russian, br!

and here's the setup with vertical coil placed right over the air hole and packed with hemp

Probably the most efficient coil/wick in these is the vertical coil. 30 or 28g wrapped around a 1.5/2mm drill bit. The filler can be cotton or hemp, even silica. I am making extension posts for mine to raise one post and eliminate the long leg run, even though it is so wet it is not a problem.

it's working well but i have had no luck finding something to extend the negative post. atm making sure to place some hemp in that slot between post and coil to prevent a mishap

 

[CES]

Glad you're back to carto making BR. Tib's russian looks like it has almost as many bits as some of your cartos. Katya's boge carto is more my speed - though i'm liking the aspire too.

 

[Flowersoul]

Good morning, all.......bbl!

 

[Katya]

here's the russian, br!

Well, it's only a 91% Russian.

Man, Tibs, you've come a long way, baby!

 

[Katya]

Glad you're back to carto making BR. Tib's russian looks like it has almost as many bits as some of your cartos. Katya's boge carto is more my speed - though i'm liking the aspire too.

Right...

Beyond my pay grade.

I'm with you, CES. I like my Boges and my Aspire too. Which one did you get? I have the glass eGo-threaded one and I'm impressed, even though I don't much care for dual-coil atties. This one is really nice.

 

[Katya]

Good morning, all.......bbl!

Hello, Gracie!

We're waiting!

 

[tiburonfirst]

Well, it's only a 91% Russian.

Man, Tibs, you've come a long way, baby!

yup! i don't like them too big

 

[Katya]

yup! i don't like them too big

Seriously Tibs, I remember when you were perfectly happy with tiny Trumans....

 

[tiburonfirst]

strangely enough - it seems i did better with those than all the stuff that came after ............. sigh

 

[Flowersoul]

Hey, so 13 hours later, and I'm back.......

I'm using the ego threaded glass Aspire also, but am trying to decide which I like better now, the mini nova or the ETs.

I *think* I'm getting a bit more flavor out of the mini nova, but I've yet to make a final judgment.

 

[Katya]

strangely enough - it seems i did better with those than all the stuff that came after ............. sigh

Ain't that the truth.

Sigh back atcha.

 

[Katya]

Hey, so 13 hours later, and I'm back.......

I'm using the ego threaded glass Aspire also, but am trying to decide which I like better now, the mini nova or the ETs.

I *think* I'm getting a bit more flavor out of the mini nova, but I've yet to make a final judgment.

I only got one (the glass eGo-threaded) version because I was sure I wouldn't like it--I never liked those dual coils. However, this one surprised me. It is not like those other DCCs with one coil on top, the other on the bottom. This is a new design, and if you look carefully, it really resembles a cartomizer inside--it has a layer of filler, which, I believe, is responsible for the improved wicking and overall performance. So it seems we have come a full circle and we're back where we started.

In the video below, Andrew takes apart that coil assembly (at 8 min or so) and shows clearly the "cartomizer" design.



Now if they could only make that dual bottom coil clearomizer with a single coil atty...

 

[CES]

I have the DBC, ego-threaded glass aspire ETs Katya. No doubt the carto-like properties are why i like it . I usually am not found of bottom coils, but this one has enough warmth and works well on a stock ego battery

the ones i have look like this- but they take the same coil as the one shown at 8min in the video.

 

[Katya]

I agree. They vape more like a good carto tank than a clearomizer. I like how responsive they are--no need for those long slow drags--they are much more cig-alike in this respect. I'm finding that I can take shorter drags because of BDC's faster and more voluminous vapor production.

So far so good.

 

[br5495]

I only got one (the glass eGo-threaded) version because I was sure I wouldn't like it--I never liked those dual coils. However, this one surprised me. It is not like those other DCCs with one coil on top, the other on the bottom. This is a new design, and if you look carefully, it really resembles a cartomizer inside--it has a layer of filler, which, I believe, is responsible for the improved wicking and overall performance. So it seems we have come a full circle and we're back where we started.

In the video below, Andrew takes apart that coil assembly (at 8 min or so) and shows clearly the "cartomizer" design.



Now if they could only make that dual bottom coil clearomizer with a single coil atty...

No wonder why Andrew thinks the Aspires produce a fantastic vapor and throat hit. The coils have a 1.5 ohm resistance and he is heating them with 4 volts. That's more than 10 watts! That could mean he may be consuming more nicotine than a real cigarette. I'm afraid that people who try to do the same thing will turn themselves into nicotine junkies. That's not my idea of a good cigarette substitute.

I experimented with a dual coil cartomizer back in the early days and found that it could easily do about the same thing. It was such a ridiculous amount that I only used it for test purposes. Mine was a top coil version, but that don't really make much difference as long as the coils stay wet.

 

[Katya]

Hi BR, don't forget that we're dealing with a 1.8 Ω dual coil design--two 3.6Ω coils here--configured in parallel, so his wattage is really 4.4 watts per coil. I vape mine on 3.8-4.4v and it's really nice, despite the low wattage. I think that the increased vapor production makes up for the low watts.

And I'm not a high wattage girl. I like 6 watts with single coils.

 

[br5495]

here's the russian, br!

and here's the setup with vertical coil placed right over the air hole and packed with hemp



it's working well but i have had no luck finding something to extend the negative post. atm making sure to place some hemp in that slot between post and coil to prevent a mishap

This one looks almost like some of the atomizer heads that I have seen. Is that what this is? If so, I don't see a real need for a hemp wick. But then, I don't really know what this thing is all about and may be missing out on a good thing. However, this type of construction always requires it to be a large device, which is too big for a little guy like me.

 

[kwcharlie]

it's Russian BR, like the Mig's, BIG engines and guns and maybe a pilot that can take the G's.

 

[br5495]

Hi BR, don't forget that we're dealing with a 1.8 Ω dual coil design--two 3.6Ω coils here--configured in parallel, so his wattage is really 4.4 watts. I vape mine on 3.8-4.4v and it's really nice, despite the low wattage. I think that the increased vapor production makes up for the low watts.

And I'm not a high wattage girl. I like 6 watts with single coils.

I didn't forget. You have it backwards, hon. Two 3.6Ω coils in parallel make a 1.8 Ω load. They would have to be connected in series to be half that. These things ain't magic. You can't get more vapor with less power. Also, I think that Andrew said in his video that they have a 1.8Ω resistance.

Me, I'm just a 3 or 3.5 watt guy, heheh.

 

[br5495]

it's Russian BR, like the Mig's, BIG engines and guns and maybe a pilot that can take the G's.

Yep. And a lot of BIG Russian things things are not at all practical.