Burning taste anything above 60watts

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Ohm Gnome

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ahh wow have you tried really thick max vg (my diy juice comes out to 95%+ VG) in the herakles?
Yes I have. I usually only vape max vg and the ones I use are thick. The only reason I got the Cuttwood is because I had Vape tongue and i've found that when I normally use max vg and get Vape tongue I can buy juice with more pg like Cuttwood and Cyclops Vapor ( 65-35) and taste again. And after a couple days vaping that I can go back to my max vg and taste it again. I got a beautiful little system going right now. Knock on wood lol
 
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Well I mean everyone is different but it's my favorite. I would just say I see people on YouTube use the Herakles at 100 watts but I personally think the vapor is to hot for me past 75 watts. I've never liked a hot vape. The Atlantis 2 solved that problem with the airflow on the drip tip but I think the increase in air kills flavor. And in my opinion the Atlantis already has muted flavor even with the top part closed. The only issue i've ever had with the Herakles is it will sometimes spit back even with max vg. To correct it I adjust the wattage or take a q tip down the center to get excess juice out. It doesn't always do this just every now and then. I just wanted to tell you the pros and cons . It's such a non issue that I want a second Herakles
 
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This tank will not work below 30 watts. It barely works at 30 watts. This tank is designed for higher wattage. The coil he is using says 70-80 watts right on the coil. It doesn't say 30to 80 it says .3Ω 70-80 watts . I'm not trying to be rude but so many people keep saying oh that's too many watts when people Vape at 150 watts with this tank every single day. It's good to try and help people but giving advice on something you aren't knowledgeable about isn't helping. Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm just trying to make sure the OP gets accurate information
Thanks Jason, and it's appreciated. However, the OP is running the coil at 60 watts and the wicking is not keeping up with the vaporization of the juice, thereby giving dry hits. If the OP wants to keep using that same coil (not a different one at the same ohms, but the same coil) and the same juice, then the only other variable that will help is lowering the wattage.

Perhaps it's a bad coil and wasn't wicked properly. Perhaps the juice is too viscous and needs a different PG/VG ratio or needs to be thinned with distilled water. Maybe a change of coils is in order. But lowering the wattage once you detect a burnt taste does work, no matter the design considerations.

The advice you are giving is solid, and perhaps with a different (read new) coil, the OP will be able to enjoy their vape at 60 watts, but keep in mind that others are also giving solid advice based on experience.
 
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Nmackan you should accept it. I loved smoking. Its filtyhy but I loved it. When I first started vaping it was all low watt. I found myself always trying to get my vapor. It wasn't enough for me so I started smoking again for a year. Then I started to sub ohm at higher wattages. The plumes of vapor I was getting with no effort actually deterred me from cigarrets again because I found them too weak.
 

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I just got my IPV4 in the mail today. So I decided to try the Atlantis 2 with the 0.3 ohm coil on it. The juice I am using is 70VG juice and have no problems with wicking. I've tried it at 40, 50, 60 and 70 watts. No dry hits but the vape definitely gets hot at 70 watts. Also, the bottom of the tank heats up quite a bit at the higher wattage (I tend to chain vape, with one vape coming anywhere from 15-30 seconds after the previous one). With the air control set wide open (both top and bottom), I think 50 watts on the 0.3 ohm coil is my sweet spot. At 40 watts, I have to take a really long hit. At 60 watts, the flavor starts to get a bit muted. At 70 watts, the warm vape is ok, but I can't take a hit for more than a couple of seconds.

I primed the coil really well. Dripped 3 drops directly into the coil, dripped 4 drops into each of the 4 wicking holes, waiting for the juice to soak in between drops. Did 5 or 6 unpowered vapes with the air holes covered by my fingers and let it sit for 5 minutes before I did my first powered hit.
 

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yeah, I use max VG -- 90-95% it doesn't play well with Temp Control either for what its worth

Gonna have to disagree with you on this.

I run max VG about 98% of the time and have no more issues with it on temp controlled mods than i did with Kanthal/standard VV/VW mods.
 

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.27 ohms in a dripper on a mech is about as far as you can get from a cigarette. I vape to get the satisfaction that I got from a cig, as in I take a short drag and exhale. Accept that people do things differently and for different reasons.
Nmackan you should accept it. I loved smoking. Its filtyhy but I loved it. When I first started vaping it was all low watt. I found myself always trying to get my vapor. It wasn't enough for me so I started smoking again for a year. Then I started to sub ohm at higher wattages. The plumes of vapor I was getting with no effort actually deterred me from cigarrets again because I found them too weak.
My friend, I loved smoking too. Even when I could not walk without breathing breaks I did not intend to give up smoking. Even when I decided to go to buy an e-cig, I had intended that I would have my morning tea and cigarettes ceremony and only when the ceremony was over I would use e-cig. My purpose was not to live 60 years more I only wanted to live properly. But again I only used low watts. Now I have a recently acquired Tayfun clone two folds coil and wick. 3mg/ml desert liquid with 7 wattss I produce fog.
Mind you I am not judging your use of higher watts in the end the pleasures are relevant. I only dont understand what one can get more than I did.
 

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Gonna have to disagree with you on this.

I run max VG about 98% of the time and have no more issues with it on temp controlled mods than i did with Kanthal/standard VV/VW mods.
with a RDA? i dont know -- our local "the dna40 can do no wrong" crew blamed it on my use in a dripper with nearly pure vg -- i did try cutting it with pg and got far fewer "temp protection" messages.
 

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My friend, I loved smoking too. Even when I could not walk without breathing breaks I did not intend to give up smoking. Even when I decided to go to buy an e-cig, I had intended that I would have my morning tea and cigarettes ceremony and only when the ceremony was over I would use e-cig. My purpose was not to live 60 years more I only wanted to live properly. But again I only used low watts. Now I have a recently acquired Tayfun clone two folds coil and wick. 3mg/ml desert liquid with 7 wattss I produce fog.
Mind you I am not judging your use of higher watts in the end the pleasures are relevant. I only dont understand what one can get more than I did.
A two second draw that would make a subohmer look twice.
 

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Thanks Jason, and it's appreciated. However, the OP is running the coil at 60 watts and the wicking is not keeping up with the vaporization of the juice, thereby giving dry hits. If the OP wants to keep using that same coil (not a different one at the same ohms, but the same coil) and the same juice, then the only other variable that will help is lowering the wattage.

Perhaps it's a bad coil and wasn't wicked properly. Perhaps the juice is too viscous and needs a different PG/VG ratio or needs to be thinned with distilled water. Maybe a change of coils is in order. But lowering the wattage once you detect a burnt taste does work, no matter the design considerations.

The advice you are giving is solid, and perhaps with a different (read new) coil, the OP will be able to enjoy their vape at 60 watts, but keep in mind that others are also giving solid advice based on experience.
I understand that and agree. But you can only give advice based on experience if you have experience. Advice for any two pieces of equipment are rarely the same unless the two pieces of equipment are the same. People saying 60 watts is too much for any, tank is incorrect. Now each individual may find 60 in any tank is too much for that individual but you can't make a blanket statement about tanks. If someone asks about a a question specifically about a IPV4 then I know I shouldn't answer it because i've never held one. Sure a IPV3 may be similar but like a Kanger Subtank and a Atlantis 2 are similar in they're both sub ohm tanks but their differences out weigh their similarity. It's cool people want to help but I think you need to know about the subject matter in order to help.
 
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