California Statewide Flavor Ban?
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It is so sad but whatever they don't sell, they lose totally so I think they appreciate us buying it. We aren't the ones putting them out of business at any rate.
No, your country's more bonkers than mine
You only think that because it's what you are used to and the human brain rationalizes whatever is consistently happening to it as normal. It's a standard coping mechanism, everyone does it. Even in North Korea the people think their way is best (of course they aren't taught anything else). The reality is all governments are in one way or another some mixture of corruption and incompetence. The problem is we still need them because the alternative is anarchy and chaos.
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a ban on flavour juice will only affect the ones buying premade juice and will help them find diy ejuice
do you think they will stop chefs/bakers from buying flavours?
same as UK with the nicotine above 20mg is illegal for sale if it's for vaping but if it's for other things it's still legal and taxed
for the win
hi cali gov
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I was thinking the exact same thing. Believe it or not, I am a baker.
....and my mother in law might just want to do some organic gardening....
I agree. They mark it down in order to get rid of it... customers pay more than the garbage bin.
Even though I live in communist Kalifornia I don't worry about vaping. I also don't worry or care about people's opinon from other countries on US laws. I can make my own vaping supplies. I'm more concerned that the US government, whether it be federal, state, county or city, believes it has the authority to tell citizens what is or isn't good for them. Nancy is always talking about how people will die but now Kalifornia is trying to ban something that is saving people's lives. If people don't think that this trend will be followed I believe they are sadly mistaken. Thidoocy has already destroyed a once great state and it's spreading like a plague.
I'm not sure about San Francisco proper, but there are many prominent e-liquid manufacturers in California, including Tasty Vapor (in Oakland), Five Pawns, Molecule Labs, and many others.
Mr ScottP....it was a jokeAre you bonkers or something
For the record I never said I was sane, just logical.
I made candy with vaping products!
I was thinking the exact same thing. Believe it or not, I am a baker.
Yep, I vape more unflavored than anything else; it's my "ADV". I go 35PG / 65VG.
However, I do not think I'd be very happy vaping unflavored exclusively, all day, every day.
Regarding flavors like possibly RY4 and similar others, here's a portion of what the bill actually states about that (in quotes and italicized)...and the added comments from the article that was written about it.
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The statewide bill bans so-called “characterizing flavors.” That means any e-liquid — bottled liquid, or in pods or cartridges — that includes a flavor other than tobacco will be prohibited.
“A tobacco retailer, or any of the tobacco retailer’s agents or employees, shall not sell, offer for sale, or possess with the intent to sell or offer for sale, a flavored tobacco product,” says the bill. It defines a characterizing flavor as “a distinguishable taste or aroma, or both, other than the taste or aroma of tobacco, imparted by a tobacco product or any byproduct produced by the tobacco product.”
How do they know a specific e-liquid has a “characterizing flavor”? Basically, if anyone has ever said that it does:
“There shall be a rebuttable presumption that a tobacco product is a flavored tobacco product if a manufacturer or any of the manufacturer’s agents or employees, in the course of his or her agency or employment, has made a statement or claim directed to consumers or to the public that the tobacco product has or produces a characterizing flavor, including, but not limited to, text, color, images, or all, on the product’s labeling or packaging that are used to explicitly or implicitly communicate that the tobacco product has a characterizing flavor.”
“Characterizing flavors include, but are not limited to, tastes or aromas relating to any fruit, chocolate, vanilla, honey, candy, cocoa, dessert, alcoholic beverage, menthol, mint, wintergreen, herb, or spice,” says the California Senate bill.
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So, based on the above...it seems that RY4 and any others that have any flavoring other than plain old tobacco in them...will be banned.
My love made strawberry, peppermint, cinnamon, blueberry, raspberry and rootbeer. The rootbeer candy tasted like the little rootbeer barrel candies. She gives it out at Christmas time.
I make it year round and different flavors! My husbands coworkers can’t get enough of it or the whoopie pies.
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