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California teen injured by exploding e-cigarette
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There are Many Shops in My area who will Build a coil in Any Ohm you want.
Every "vape" shop I've ever been in doesn't allow minors, I would guess for liability purposes it is easier to card at the door than at time of purchase, convenience stores are another matter.
JSYN - There is a Poll on the Ramona Sentinel site asking if e-Cigarettes should be Regulated?
Ramona's Community Paper Since 1886 | Ramona Sentinel
And right Now, the "Yes" people are Kicking the Snot out of the "No" People.
It is a Shame that 1 Mod Exploding could cause a Knee Jerk Reaction of Limiting or Restricting e-Cigarettes to Adults who want to Quit Smoking.
Ramona's Community Paper Since 1886 | Ramona Sentinel
And right Now, the "Yes" people are Kicking the Snot out of the "No" People.
It is a Shame that 1 Mod Exploding could cause a Knee Jerk Reaction of Limiting or Restricting e-Cigarettes to Adults who want to Quit Smoking.
Can it be assumed that the mod in this incident was entirely unregulated or can a device with protections circuit also fail exposively? Most people might like to know what they need to do to reduce safety issues to a point comparablle with their cell phone. If that's possible what would that advice be?
Well, cell phones are 100% safe either:
Woman Hurt In Cell Phone Battery Explosion Out Of Hospital « CBS Miami
Texas girl's Samsung phone explodes in bed - FOX 13 News
There were more on Google. Since lithium-based batteries contain a lot of potential energy, I assume that there will always be some sort of risk, even with regulated devices (albeit magnitudes safer due to the built-in overcurrent protection).
I think there are a lot of people who don't understand the dangers. Here's an example: the other day, at my current gig, I noticed a coworker using a mech mod with a dripper. Chatted him up.... you know... "Hey, watcha vaping?".
Come to find out, he had no idea what his ohms were (it was a dual-coil dripper with what looked to be 26ga kanthal). I put it on my SX Mini and it was 0.3ohms. Ok..... then, it gets worse.
"Dang that's pretty low. What battery are you running?"
"Oh, I disassembled an old laptop battery we were going to throw away. They have 18650s in them! So, I'm using one of those. It gets hot, though..."
Of course, after I picked myself up off the floor, I explained the danger of what he was doing. Luckily, he heeded my warnings and purchased some VTC5s.... but, had I not said anything, how long would he have pushed that old battery?
I've had various cell phone for some years. In that time I have one battery that got a slight bulge. That's all my Li battery issues to date. Over the years I'm collecting and using more decicies that use those batteries, cell phone, a couple of cameras, gps, and now several regulated ecig power supplies. It's getting time to have a deeper understanding of what can happen to those batteries and now to minimize the risks.
I'm betting this accident story involves either a mis matched or poor quality battery and/or an unregulated power supply connected to a bad or incorrectly configured coil. How much protection do the protection circuits offer? How reliable are the best makes of batteries when they are used properly? If I can make my ecig power supplies as safe as my other Li battery applications I'd be up for learning how to do that. Unprotected power supplies are not on my roadmap at the moment.
A person can Assume Anything they Want.
Especially when there are No Facts to go on in an Article like this One. Or the Accident that occurred in Ramona.
I would say that it is "More Likely" that it was a Mech Mod that Exploded than a Regulated Mod. But I Don't See how I could say that a Regulated Mod can be Ruled Out.
There have been a number of reports over the years of ego-type batteries exploding, or catching fire, I believe all of those were while charging or sitting in a hot car though. Regulated devices are only as good as the circuit that gets put in them, just keep that in mind when hunting for bargains, those cost savings have to come from somewhere.
Forgive me for the poor choice of words. I hope we find out in detail what kind of device it was, the batteries, etc. It doesn't change that I'd like to have some basic understandin of the issues. I'm willing to take the steps necessary to minimize safety issues the same as I do with other things.
And that is a completely fair, intelligent approach.
What frustrates many of us is that nobody knows because this is a puff-piece designed to scare the public away from e-cigarettes, instead of real journalism with facts on what happened.... which is exactly the reason I started this thread.
First we have "exploding e-cigarette". Then we have "home explosion". Is the next report going to state this incident took out the entire neighborhood?
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It's not fluff when a product fails and causes a serious injury regardless of who is at fault but now we want a fair account of what happened so others can avoid the same situation. I would say a fire inspector assisted by someone experienced with vape technology would be the right combination. Usually the people in the firefighting business don't play games. They will want to know what happened and they will want the relevent public to know. Fire fighters spend as much time looking for risky situations as they do putting out fires. By now there may have been some articles written for firefighters about this new kind of fire risk. I'm sure there have been a few papers written about Li batteries already.
It doesn't help that there seem to be vape shops selling off SMPL mods unsuspecting customers
I wasn't discrediting the news article for existing at all. Indeed this is important, as the vaping community can't stand up in front of policymakers and claim safety when people are turning their vaporizers into pipe bombs.
So we are in agreement, a lack of facts doesn't help the community improve safety, which we all want. BUT, a lack of facts does actually help move the ANTZ agenda forward.
ANTZ: "See? I told you those e-cigarettes were dangerous! Kids are using them and blowing their face off!"
Public: "Oh my... what about the children? These things are dangerous! Pipe bombs ready to go off at any second!"
Community: "Wait... there are a lot of issues that could cause this, most likely stupidity, but could be a rare fluke (like cell phone batteries exploding). What was the specifics on the situation? Was he running a 0.1ohm coil on a battery he bought from China on eBay, perhaps?"
ANTZ: "We don't know, and it doesn't matter, because there's a lot we don't know, which is why we need to stop it, and stop it now."
Public: "Yes... save my child! I don't want him breathing all that vapor anyway!"
Yeah... This was Damaging PR for the Vaping Community.
About the Only thing that could make it Worse was if the 17 Year wasn't using his e-Cigarette to Quit Smoking.
The Media would have a Field Day over that.
According to U.S. Fire Administration (part of FEMA):
- e-cig fires are extremely rare
- 80% caused by improper charging
- only 25 confirmed cases
https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/electronic_cigarettes.pdf
- e-cig fires are extremely rare
- 80% caused by improper charging
- only 25 confirmed cases
https://www.usfa.fema.gov/downloads/pdf/publications/electronic_cigarettes.pdf
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