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Awesome! Thanks EDO. Oh, and is it normal that all my juices taste sweeter? Everything else they taste normal but in RBA they taste extra sweet.
I never could get silica or cotton to wick all that well in my dud, and I've seen other posts where the poster was less that happy also. For that reason I'd advise sticking with devices that are designed to use silica and are known to wick well, such as your drunker.
My personal favorite is the dream 804. I have the regular ones but they're starting to become available in ss now if that matters to you.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...lone-aka-dream-bt804-tank-23.html#post9379819
Here's some pix of what EDO was talking about. My own version, not with silica; but same idea.
After vaping with RBAs that are set up properly most other atomizers will taste muted in comparison.
BTW the pictures that pdib provided is exactly what I am talking about. With gennies, pdib and I cut the tail that goes into the tank so only about 1/4 inch is exposed in the tank. So the genny becomes a bottom dripper. If you do it this way the last drop in the tank will taste as fresh as the first. Also make sure the tail that goes in the tank...isn't choking the wick hole. It should go through the wick hole easily....notice the last picture pdib provided.
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Thanks JD1, pdib, and EDO again. yes I was checking out the BT804. Vapor Bank had'em for $17 for a long time but are around $20 now. I was just thinking about a Cobra clone or AGA-T, though judging by the weight of my IGO I would imagine it is a bit top heavy.
pdib, I watched a video about running silica and wire in a usmc johnny (?) similar to yours but was in traditional horizontal coil, one tail down into the tank and the other cut short just long enough to cover the fill hole to keep it from spilling. I think I like yours better. I hate how close the coils need to be without touching with limited space building a horizontal coil. From wrapping mesh I do recall having a bit more length of wick to work with.
Isn't the AGA-T designed for both?
pdib, I watched a video about running silica and wire in a usmc johnny (?) similar to yours but was in traditional horizontal coil, one tail down into the tank and the other cut short just long enough to cover the fill hole to keep it from spilling. I think I like yours better. I hate how close the coils need to be without touching with limited space building a horizontal coil. From wrapping mesh I do recall having a bit more length of wick to work with.
Isn't the AGA-T designed for both?
Yes the AGAT is designed for both....but is very top heavy. Some people like that and some don't. Again look at the pictures pdib provided...he makes the coils almost touch each other....I do it the same way.....more intense flavor. I would wrap my coils like that when using ss mesh as well. Look at PetarK video to see how to wrap coils around a drill bit. You can then thread the silica/nextel through the pre-built coil rather easily.
coils can totally touch each other. I sometimes actually crimp mine to 100% full contact. (squeeze them together with parallel action pliers)
edit: BTW the nextel is stiff enough that I just wrap right on it. (Any other material, I use drill bit method)
Just to add another endorsement, I struggled with silica in a genny until I tried that method. It becomes more like dripping than a tank though, meaning you have to tilt pretty heavily to wet the wick, but not each time. These guys are right; make sure the wick isn't choking in the wick hole and it works quite well.
I've done it with hemp and cotton as well, with similar results.
I've done it with hemp and cotton as well, with similar results.
My thing with coils touching is it tends to build up burnt gunk rather quickly and encase them all together. Am I making them too hot? I always prime to ensure the silica is saturated but still end up getting a burnt taste in no time. Even with pre-mades so I don't know what I am doing wrong in that respect. Only seems to happen with tanks, drippers seem fine. With tanks it does seem like a constant battle between having to drip after every few good puffs and wait for the juice to work it's way back up to the coil again, and that's with 2-wick tanks. What may be causing this? I only use mechanicals so I never exceed 3.7v.
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Well now, I wasn't recommending coils touching, I was just saying they can. Coils touching creates alot more heat. I tried it once with silica, and yeah, you're right, gbojar, it doesn't work so good. Silica can't wick to keep up with tightly compacted coils, even less so when their wrapped on a small interior diameter. So I don't use silica. 
(I was just posting some pics to illustrate EDO's thought; and then piped in with the coil thing. In my mind they were separate. On the page, their not . . . . oops)
(I was just posting some pics to illustrate EDO's thought; and then piped in with the coil thing. In my mind they were separate. On the page, their not . . . . oops)
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I use the cheapest silica from mcmastercarr. I usually wrap my coils around a 2.4mm dill bit....5 wraps of 28g wire gives me a 0.8ohm coil. I wrap the coils just like in pdib's pictures. I never had any problems with dry hits.....it could be because I use 80pg/20vg juices. Oh yeah....I tilt....I naturally tilt to near horizontal when vaping.
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I wasn't trying to say that gbojar was vaping incorrectly....I was trying to say maybe silica works perfectly for me because I tilt and use mostly PG juices....so his experience could be very different than mine. The only time I set up silica wick and it didn't vape perfectly was when I used too much silica and it was being choked in the wick hole.
I usually wrap my coils around the standard jewelers screwdriver that comes with a lot of RBAs, 7 to 8 wraps of 30g puts me over a 1ohm, but just started tipping the tank last night before reading this and it does help. I drag on it similar to PB in his reviews, a couple short power puffs to draw the flavor out then 1 nice 2 or 3 second draw. I think it's just a matter of the juice not having enough time to reach the coil again after a few good draws on it.
Oh ya, found a sale on BT804s so will be getting 1 or 2. My Drawtube (same manufacturer) will be in today!!! Woo Hoo
Thanks again guys!
I did a couple "close coil" wraps on the RSST and had the same issue with the silica starving for juice. Spreading out the coils helps.
It may be because I wrap directly on the silica. It may be choking the juice flow. I'll have to revisit that setup since I'm not a big fan of SS wicks.
It may be because I wrap directly on the silica. It may be choking the juice flow. I'll have to revisit that setup since I'm not a big fan of SS wicks.
@pdib Its all good....I wasn't sure how my post came off....wanted to clarify it.
@gbojar....StaircaseWit made a very good point. You can choke the wick at two places 1)the wick hole or 2) at the coil. IF you wrap the coil before hand and then thread the silica through it....you have to make sure your not using too much silica in relation to the coil as well as the wick hole. So sometime less is more when it comes to wicking. Of course it works the other way around as well...if you use too little silica you will have problems with harsh hits.
@staircase....I am pretty good at setting up ss wicks but hands down for me the silica outperforms it. You just have to figure out what diameter of coil to make and what diameter of silica to use for each of your a gennies. For example on my Cobra I use a 2.4mm dill bit to make the coil and use 2mm silica (doubled at the coil). Since the RSST can handle a much bigger wick you have to figure out what works with it. Once you figure out what works, it should outperform the ss mesh in every way ....YMMV of course.
@gbojar....StaircaseWit made a very good point. You can choke the wick at two places 1)the wick hole or 2) at the coil. IF you wrap the coil before hand and then thread the silica through it....you have to make sure your not using too much silica in relation to the coil as well as the wick hole. So sometime less is more when it comes to wicking. Of course it works the other way around as well...if you use too little silica you will have problems with harsh hits.
@staircase....I am pretty good at setting up ss wicks but hands down for me the silica outperforms it. You just have to figure out what diameter of coil to make and what diameter of silica to use for each of your a gennies. For example on my Cobra I use a 2.4mm dill bit to make the coil and use 2mm silica (doubled at the coil). Since the RSST can handle a much bigger wick you have to figure out what works with it. Once you figure out what works, it should outperform the ss mesh in every way ....YMMV of course.
I forgot to mention I use 3mm silica thru roughly a 2.5mm coil. Now it seems everyone likes to double up for the coil, more surface area makes sense. I do wrap a little tight but when I wrap lightly to where the coils are just touching the wick I taste the coils heating up but just a hint of juice. So I guess I either choke it out or wrap to loose, I need to find a middle ground. Plus the wick holes on the R-tank are rather small, much smaller than the Drunker, and the A8 are small as well. Time to start modifying some atties! Yeeeeeee Haw~!
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