can nicotine cause this?

[NoSoupfOu]

Sleepless; Insomnia nights, cold feet and weird dreams? I really only care about the sleep and cold feet haha.

My mother always gave me **** for smoking analogs. I complained of what I mentioned earlier and she blamed it on them. Now that I have been analog free since June 16 I think its actually the nicotine itself or something I wont even try to explain because I'm not a doctor.

I'm guessing because nicotine causes restriction of blood vessels this is more (i repeat more) than likely the case? Just when I was getting to like not smoking analogs I probably have to quit E-Cigs also? (quitting analogs was easy because of e-cig, quitting e-cig WILL NOT be as easy...probably laughable because I will fail )

Any help?

 

[Hulamoon]

How much did you used to smoke and what nicotine content are you using now? Over vaping at a higher nicotine level wiil cause insomnia as nicotine is a stimulant. Whatever you use during the daytime would probably be best vaped at half the nic content at night - in other words, if you use 24 mg in the daytime, try a 12 mg after say 6 pm.... As to the wierd dreams it may be that the over stimulation is disturbing deep sleep patterns. I always have vivid dreams if I'm not quite in a deep sleep state or if I wake up in early morning and then attempt to sleep again instead of getting up. Cold feet.. do what we Brits do...wear socks and see if that helps

 

[Aubie80]

I have heard of people saying that higher nicotine can cause sleeplessness and insomnia. You could try lowering your nicotine intake as the day wears on, just use lower milligram juice.

As far as the cold feet, ya got me there, maybe put on some socks? Nicotine can restrict blood vessels so maybe not enough blood supply to extremities?

Also as far as the lucid and weird dream I think I've seen it mentioned that nicotine can cause this as well.

 

[NoSoupfOu]

I am using 18 mg nicotine. I tried 24 it was too strong and i tried 12 and it was too weak. I guess maybe grow a pair and smoke the 12 instead of 18?

I have been dealing with cold feet my entire analog life. It was something I came to accept while smoking but was hoping to get rid of not smoking them. It hasn't helped at all though while smoking e-cigs. As we speak it is 5 in the morning but rising to almost 90 outside. I still have wool socks on wishing for another pair.

As far as dreams go, you cannot control them no matter how hard you try so that is literally a .1 on a 10 scale. Just something i mentioned that idk (maybe) could help?

Anyway, thanks for all the input. Greatly appreciated!

 

[Hulamoon]

You can use the 18 during the day and just use the 12 in the evening (particularly if you chain vape). Do use the strength you really need in the daytime or you might end up being dissatisfied and goodness forbid, go back to smokes. Maybe take a look at any increase in caffeine you may have resorted to also in your quest to quit? Just a thought. I'm another sufferer of cold feet - but it generally happens when my blood sugar is low and when I'm tired. When I rest and the blood sugar comes back up I know I'm ready to be on the go again when my feet have warmed up to comfy temperatures.

 

[AttyPops]

lol. Totally nicotine.

Lucid dreaming. Common for those that wore the patch to bed too.

Yeah, cut back at night or go zero nic vape 1/2 hour to hour (or even more) before sleep.

 

[jclifford]

"I have been dealing with cold feet my entire analog life. It was something I came to accept while smoking but was hoping to get rid of not smoking them. It hasn't helped at all though while smoking e-cigs. As we speak it is 5 in the morning but rising to almost 90 outside. I still have wool socks on wishing for another pair."

get some UGGS, slippers, boots, whatever. Totally incredible, heart medications cause cold extremities, first time my feet were warm in many years.

remember nicotine is a stimulant, treat it as such. I start the day at 12mg, early evening go to 6 mg and after 10 pm go to 3 mg. I sleep like a baby, although I do miss the dreams!

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

"On entering the bloodstream, nicotine stimulates the adrenal gland to release the hormone adrenaline (the so-called “fight or flight” hormone) which in turn stimulates the central nervous system to increase blood flow and pressure and respiration rate.

Glucose is released into the blood while insulin output is suppressed, causing high blood sugar levels. Also, it is taken by the blood stream to the brain where it increases the levels of the neurotransmitter, dopamine which is associated with reward and pleasure.

Like alcohol, nicotine has “biphasic effects”; it first acts as a stimulant then as a relaxant. As a stimulant, it has powerful psychodynamic effects, such as euphoria and increased alertness and concentration. As a relaxant, it calms people down when faced with a stressful situation."

If I vape a strong nic juice before bedtime I experience insomnia and have weird dreams.

 

[TBPlayer2112]

I started having sleepless nights too when I first started vaping. Now in the evenings I switch to a 6mg juice down from my regular 18mg. It's worked for me but YMMV. Good luck!

 

[mkbilbo]

Sleepless; Insomnia nights, cold feet and weird dreams?

Except for cold feet, I had exactly that. For a while. One thing to try is lower nic levels in the evenings. I use my highest in the morning (for that "first cig of the day" stuff). Switch down to my moderate level for most of the day then down to my lowest when I do the "fall on the couch and watch some TV before bed" thing.

Nicotine is a stimulant like caffeine is so, yeah, it can easily keep you awake nights. I remember when I smoked, I used to smoke more (often much more) times I needed to stay awake and alert.

The weird dreams thing... who knows where that comes from. I had it and I've read bunches of posts here of people discussing having it. But, remember, cigs are known to have over 4,000 (!) chemicals, over 50 of which are known to cause cancer. It's not just nicotine in there. So you've quit 3,999 chemicals. Could we ever sort out which one does what? I doubt it (least not until Star Trek and Dr. McCoy come along ).

But it went away over time for me. I think I'm dreaming these days. I sleep so much better and so much deeper, it's hard to tell. I barely experience "time passing" I sleep so deeply now. Sometimes, it's like I lay down and, click, somebody turns the sun on and it's time to get up. I don't think I've slept that deep since I was in college.

Still, yeah, the dreams were freaky for a while. Super realistic and... tragic? They weren't quite "nightmares" so much as just... tragic. Bad stuff happening. Often very goofy bad stuff. Bad stuff that made no sense but which was quite seriously bad in the dream.

...quitting analogs was easy because of e-cig, quitting e-cig WILL NOT be as easy...probably laughable because I will fail...

So what?

Seriously, what's the worst case? You'd be stuck with a nicotine addiction. The one you already had. But you will have dumped all the cancer causing, health destroying, life shortening chemicals.

While nicotine is highly addictive, it's not terribly bad for your health (certainly not compared to all the cancer causing crap in cigs). I mean, it's not ideal to have a nic addiction but it's not a substance known for causing lung cancer and such. It's not the nicotine in cigs that's killing everybody, it's the other stuff.

My nic addiction is pretty powerful. I may never quit nicotine. But I am drastically reducing my chances of developing all the other horrific things cigs cause. Yeah, I smoked for a long time so that damage is done. But I'm not doing any more damage. Which is certainly better.

So if your goal over the long term is to quit nicotine entirely, good for you. Go for it. Eventually. Don't pile on the pressure. Be happy that you're coming up on one month with no "analogs" at all. That's pretty damn good eh?

You've quit 3,999 chemicals, worry about quitting number 4,000 later.

 

[mkbilbo]

Cold feet.. do what we Brits do...wear socks and see if that helps

Heh. You know, I can't do that. I don't know why but wearing socks to bed bugs me. Then again, I am quite weird.

Of course, down here, cold feet only happens if you're rich and can run the AC nonstop...

 

[CanineSubterranean]

Sleepless; Insomnia nights, cold feet and weird dreams? I really only care about the sleep and cold feet haha.

My mother always gave me **** for smoking analogs. I complained of what I mentioned earlier and she blamed it on them. Now that I have been analog free since June 16 I think its actually the nicotine itself or something I wont even try to explain because I'm not a doctor.

I'm guessing because nicotine causes restriction of blood vessels this is more (i repeat more) than likely the case? Just when I was getting to like not smoking analogs I probably have to quit E-Cigs also? (quitting analogs was easy because of e-cig, quitting e-cig WILL NOT be as easy...probably laughable because I will fail )

Any help?

"I have been dealing with cold feet my entire analog life. It was something I came to accept while smoking but was hoping to get rid of not smoking them. It hasn't helped at all though while smoking e-cigs. As we speak it is 5 in the morning but rising to almost 90 outside. I still have wool socks on wishing for another pair."

get some UGGS, slippers, boots, whatever. Totally incredible, heart medications cause cold extremities, first time my feet were warm in many years.

remember nicotine is a stimulant, treat it as such. I start the day at 12mg, early evening go to 6 mg and after 10 pm go to 3 mg. I sleep like a baby, although I do miss the dreams!

Hi NoSoup & jclifford,

You guys need to be really careful. It certainly is the nicotine that causes cold extremities due to nicotine being a vasoconstrictor. Most cases start with the feet (as opposed to the hands, because it is further away from the heart). There is a not-so-common health problem called the Buerger's Disease - google it. Most articles dive into late stages of the disease, but it needs not develop to such late stages to be very problematic. Some people are more vulnerable to this problem than others, that's why it sounds really strange to some people on this forum. From the sound of it, you two belong to the group that are more prone. Basically, the disease is the inflammation of the arteries, usually starting at the extremities. This is much more likely to happen when your extremities are lacking blood flow.

How do I know about this issue? I've experienced it. I switched to e-cigs for a year, and used 12mg liquids. Due to the fact that I can vape anywhere and at any time, I vaped a lot more than I would smoke an analog. My feet got a lot colder and stayed cold from vaping for much longer periods than when I used to smoke analogs (I previously smoked analogs for 6 years before switching to e-cigs, and analogs didn't nearly give me feet that cold and that long). I ignored cold feet, because I never thought they'd be much of an issue. Then, the soles of my feet started getting constantly numb, which lasted for about 2 weeks. I went to see my family doctor, but he was unable to diagnose anything. One day, after vaping and with cold feet, I stepped into the bath tub which had hot-ish water running, which I later found out to be the trigger of the inflammation of the arteries in both of my feet. The pain grew over the period of 3 days and lasted for 3 weeks. It was so painful I woke several times from it each night I slept. I couldn't walk for 2.5 weeks and it was the first time I used a wheelchair, and I lost 15 pounds.

Honestly, I highly urge you guys to switch to 0 mg. Nicotine might not be so bad for many people, but it is for people like us. Cold feet is much more difficult to cure once your arteries inflame for the first time. I am only 25 and I exercise daily, so my blood circulation is supposed to be very good, but it still happened to me. It is largely an issue of genetics, as there are many smokers who don't even experience cold feet (or when they think they have "cold feet" it's actually not nearly as bad), not to mention artery inflammation of the extremities. That's why after I heard about your concerns of cold feet, I decided to write back, even though I hardly ever reply on forums. I don't want you guys to go through the same thing I had to. If you guys have any questions, PM me or reply on this thread. I'll gladly answer any questions.

Take Good Care,
CS

 

[casey46514]

Try to vape no nic for awhile and see if things change.


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[yzer]

I use 2ml of 15mg juice per day. Rather than use a weaker juice during the evening I just vape less often during the last hours of the day. I sleep fine.

 

[Colfy]

it can cause all those aforementioned and it can cause hiccups, which I found out recently cause i get one hiccup every 10 vapes. kinda of a cool thing to get since it's on;y a single hiccup and i call it the "Melanie (real name) syndrome" now lol