Can we stop calling them E-Cigarette's please?

Status
Not open for further replies.

mcclintock

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
  • Oct 28, 2014
    1,547
    1,787
    Well that guy is one of the most experienced technical experts on ecigs around, so we could at least give him the benefit of the doubt. I agree with him because I've analysed about three dozen ecig vapour tests in detail, and a common feature of the more accurate vapour [1] analyses (not the liquid of course - as you say, there isn't much water in it) is that they all give a water content in the vapour as over 50%, and there is plenty of evidence that the vapour (again, not the liquid) is mostly water vapour. ecig vapour is a water-based mist, containing mostly water (over 50%), and with the next largest components typically PG at 6%, VG at 5%, nicotine at 1%, and flavourings the remainder.

    The reason for the high water content compared to the liquid is (a) the two things are not directly comparable (see below); (b) the purpose of the PG and VG content of any stage fogger or ecig is to bind to and make visible the atmospheric water; and (c) inhaled and exhaled vapour will contain very large quantities of water vapour indeed, because there's lots of water vapour present in the respiratory tract - the purpose and the function of PG (and even glycerine) is to bind to water vapour and create larger aerosolised droplets so that they can be felt in the throat and seen in the air (to make water vapour act like smoke). You have probably seen the mist that people exhale made visible on a cold morning; that mist of water vapour is always there of course, and the purpose of the PG etc (among other things) is to do the same as a cold morning does: agglomerate the mist droplets.

    No doubt you are aware that the proportions of ingredients in the vapour are different from the liquid?
    [...]

    I didn't know that and it is interesting. I still find calling it "water based" when it's a mix, at least in terms of interestingness of the components. Plus all the water is already there before the ecig. I'd rather see a statement like "the only reason the vapor is visible is the PG and VG binding to and making visible atmospheric water".

    As to the name, I wouldn't mind a better name, I just don't think anyone's come up with it yet, history dominates, and it's a natural adaptation of previous language as I argued previously. "Electric" or "vapor" would work better than "electronic" unless the electronics become considerably more advanced ... there does seem to be some point in only using "cig" and refusing to say the whole thing. If cigars were more popular, we'd probably be talking about not calling them e-cigars anymore.
     

    rolygate

    Vaping Master
    Supporting Member
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Sep 24, 2009
    8,354
    12,405
    ECF Towers
    Rolygate, in a post from 10-30-2014 you mentioned using a DIY TE over the
    course of a year to help switch from analogs.

    Which DIY process did you end up employing with success?

    If I had to do that now it would be with WTA e-liquid, without a doubt.

    Back then I used a quick glycerine boil then 24 hour steep as the solvent/extraction method. Also I wasn't interested in switching, just getting the most tobacco-like vape. The method is in a post in the TE board somewhere, but it is redundant now - WTA is the way to go. Unless you have a few pounds of tobacco leaf lying around. Anyway there are probably far better extraction methods now than we knew about in 2009, the people making the NET flavours must have good methods.

    I still have some TE left over from 2010, it seems to keep a very long time in a cold room, even though it's in glycerine not PG.
     

    Cavenerd

    Super Member
    ECF Veteran
    Verified Member
    Nov 17, 2014
    442
    4,392
    Bahamas
    Nice!

    This opens all sorts of doors. "P.E.N.I.S envy"

    Maybe The Dead Milkmen were vapers. Detachable P.E.N.I.S was a hit!

    Don't you hate it when your P.E.N.I.S falls over and the dripper leaks out?

    I don't care what we call it, as long as I can still sit at my desk at work and shine my P.E.N.I.S.
     

    CassiusCloud

    Super Member
    ECF Veteran
    Feb 22, 2014
    458
    440
    U.S.
    E-Cig
    blu-cigs-review.jpg


    E-pipe
    s574832425966685389_p15_i4_w539.jpeg


    E-Binky
    l.jpg


    :D
     
    Status
    Not open for further replies.

    Users who are viewing this thread