just a the tread title states, can we use candy flavors for DYI liquid making? does this ban prevent companies that sell vaping extracts from continuing to do so? i primarily make my own and have been doing it for years anyways to save money. is this ban on prefilled carts, pre-made liquid, or all products including extracts sold as vaping flavorings. i think this whole thing is an outrageous and irresponsible over reach by our government.
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If you DIY you're good. They can't really do anything about the flavorings themselves. They're attacking premade e-liquid. This shouldn't impact the ability to buy VG or PG either, and as I understand it, nicotine isn't yet under fire. However, if you aren't stockpiled on nic, it wouldn't be unwise to stock up a bit.
I wouldn't use just any candy flavorings from supermarket shelves, though. Many contain ingredients that are not suitable for inhalation. Look for flavorings made for e-cigarettes. They are often the same as food flavorings, but not always. There's no way the feds can ban those. You can get them online, as you probably already know. I like this place:
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They carry most major brands.
Stay away from the oil-based ones. One of the ingredients should be propylene glycol or glycerin.
Capella, FlavorWest, Real Flavors and Prefumers Apprentice sell “FOOD FLAVORINGS”. Nothing to do with vaping.
Of course a couple of the aforementioned account for the vast majority of flavors we vape, but they aren’t sold as anything other than food flavors.
Of course a couple of the aforementioned account for the vast majority of flavors we vape, but they aren’t sold as anything other than food flavors.
This raises a great point.
How many vapers are going to buy oil based flavors from Walmart, Bulk Barn, etc. and use them in their ejuice and get really sick?
Crazy, but I expect this will be a very big issue if the flavor bans are as bad as expected...
Probably hang out a bit and they'll start selling Flavor Shots for those that don't want to diy.
It's possible, expect all sorts of craziness soon. If you aren't 100% sure it has no oils or harmful additives, I'd err on the side of caution and avoid it.
Those might be available, but I'm not sure if the FDA knows what they are. Once they find out, they will likely include it in the ban, too
Too easy that a kid could do it at home with unflavored. Not that kids really vape for flavors and not the buzz, but thats beside the point.
There is no such thing as flavorings "made for e-cigarettes". The flavorings we use existed long before vaping was a thing. Now there may be some vendors that buy individual flavorings, and pre-mix them into a complex flavor profile flavoring and then sell it as a "vaping flavor shot" or something like that, but the was still made with the same food flavorings.
I agree with everything else though. People absolutely do need to make sure what they are using doesn't contain oils or a few other bad ingredients.
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Yes, they all started as food flavorings. Not worth debating, really. But as more people started making their own eliquids, many manufacturers started testing and tweaking their original food flavorings to make sure that they are suitable for use in e-cigs. FA has a food line and an e-cig line of flavorings, more or less formally, and certify that their e-cig line is free of diacetyl and other diketones, for example. And so on.
I think Flavorah is an ecig only flavor manufacturer? I vaguely remember reading that the company started with the purpose of developing eliquid flavorings. I could be wrong.
They are still food flavorings, just semantics.
They are still food flavorings, just semantics.
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Yes, they all started as food flavorings. Not worth debating, really. But as more people started making their own eliquids, many manufacturers started testing and tweaking their original food flavorings to make sure that they are suitable for use in e-cigs. FA has a food line and an e-cig line of flavorings, more or less formally, and certify that their e-cig line is free of diacetyl and other diketones, for example. And so on.
The bottom line is that pretty much any flavor from any company that does not contain diacetyl or oils can be, and are, used. The flavors do NOT need to be specifically marked as "for ecig use" or anything like that. In fact in the very near future I suspect no flavors from any company will be marked or marketed that way as the dumb flavor bans gain momentum. Which will make finding such marked flavors a bit like hunting for unicorns. People just need to get used to making sure what they are using is diacetyl and oil free.
The ONLY thing our corrupt governments care about is getting those tobacco payments back up. They don't care what consequences the black market brings.
I can’t see any reason why made-for-e juice flavors couldn’t be used for food though, and marketed as such. One on One flavors has already started doing that. Of course, they were already also making candy and snow cone flavorings, but now they are posting keto recipes using their flavor line.
They will continue to be sold. They will not be labeled S for e cig use. Premxed " one shot" flavors will still be offered just not called one shot for e juice. Can't stop a premxed strawberry shortcake if I want a simple way to bake a cake.
I do use my e liquid flavorings for food, because they're food flavorings. Except for ry4, I haven't found anything I want to bake using that flavoring.
Anyone who is interested in DIY e liquid, should go reading in the DIY forum. There is a lot of useful information in there.
If anyone is looking to buy online from a food flavoring site should look for the ingredients listing and if you can't find it send the company an e-mail and ask for the detailed ingredients. Better safe than sorry you know. At least that is what I would do.
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