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Pipeous

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Well at the meeting tonight, it came up that wee need a Canadian Chapter so to speak, that deals with the issues that face us. CASAA will help us go forward any way they can, but to get active we will have to get active ourselves..

I am willing to head up our local chapter, but representatives from each area would also be needed.

I encourage Canadians to join CASAA as members (it is free, though you can support them on the website through donation) and to join in the meetings that are in place. While we have our own intricate differences as a nation, many things that happen down south will directly affect what can happen here.

I'm putting it out there, who is interested in getting involved?
 

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I encourage Canadians to join CASAA as members (it is free, though you can support them on the website through donation) and to join in the meetings that are in place. While we have our own intricate differences as a nation, many things that happen down south will directly affect what can happen here.

I'm putting it out there, who is interested in getting involved?

So what's involved in getting involved?
 

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you can't copy and paste the password in, you have to type it. not sure why but it was doing it to me today. turns out it was the same password. once I typed it in it let me in

ahhh so that was the problem. Now I know and I will see you at the next meeting. Thanks for the tip.
 

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Familiarize yourself with what CASAA does by checking out their website CASAA | The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association to start. become a member and join in some of the meetings etc.

there will be a board, not much different in function than the board here at my co-op, with positions. Each position will have a vote and duties to perform. That will have to be laid out and worked out. Lobbying HC, getting news coverage, presenting guidlines and such to work with. members will also be able to vote on things. it's just a unified voice to show we have some validity rather than just a bunch of individuals emailing and letter bombing
 

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exactly. we will basically be lobbyists with a larger body backing us. doing much of what we are doing now but on a more organized level.

I was part of a racing organization and the local race director. Just by being involved with that organization, I was and am still approached by mfg's of products, etc because of the exposure and such these people could recieve from us. it really makes a difference when there is solidarity.

and don't think this is all going to be an excessive amount of work. if we have a decent group we can split things up to tackle and won't be much different than many are doing now.
 

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Greetings oh North of the Border Neighbors:

Might you be able to use any of the following information in your discussions with Health Canada?

Last week the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) announced that the number of adult smokers over age 18 declined during 2010 by 1.3 million smokers, reducing the prevalence to 19.3%. This reduction ended a rise from 44.5 adult smokers in 2004 to 46.6 million in 2009. What was going on during 2010 that made a difference?

In the American Journal of Preventative Medicine, Ayers, et al. reported that internet searches for information on electronic cigarettes had the highest volume in the U.S. and UK, compared to snus, NRT, Champix, or Chantix. About 50 to 75% of all searches in the U.S. and UK were shopping searches. http://www.cfah.org/hbns/archives/viewSupportDoc.cfm?supportingDocID=995

Canada actively banned e-cigarette sales in 2009. In 2010, Canada saw a “significant increase” in male smoking prevalence from 22.6% in 2009 to 24.2% in 2010. Female smoking prevalence did not change. Smoking, 2010

Has there been an uptake in the use of electronic cigarettes in the U.S. that corresponds to the decline in smoking prevalence? Etter and Bullen surveyed 3,587 smokers and former smokers, of which 62% were from the U.S. Their report, published in the journal Addiction, states: “Most (96%) said the e-cigarette helped them to quit smoking or reduce their smoking (92%). Reasons for using the e-cigarette included the perception that it was less toxic than tobacco (84%), to deal with craving for tobacco (79%) and withdrawal symptoms (67%), to quit smoking or avoid relapsing (77%), because it was cheaper than smoking (57%) and to deal with situations where smoking was prohibited (39%). Most ex-smokers (79%) feared they might relapse to smoking if they stopped using the e-cigarette.” Electronic cigarette: users profile, utilization, satisfaction and perceived efficacy - Etter - 2011 - Addiction - Wiley Online Library

Etter and Bullen also reported on health effects of e-cigarette use: “Of interest, current smokers who used the e-cigarette had fewer respiratory symptoms than smokers who did not use it (a difference of 0.54 points on the Clinical COPD Questionnaire), which we speculate might be a consequence of reduced smoking. This difference is substantial, as it is larger than the minimally clinically important difference for this questionnaire (0.4 points), and very close to the difference of 0.6 points previously reported between patients with moderate and severe COPD.”

In clinical studies, e-cigarettes appear to attenuate craving for tobacco, despite delivering very little nicotine to the blood. (See References below)

References:

EISSENBERG, T. (2010) Electronic nicotine delivery devices: ineffective nicotine delivery and craving suppression after acute administration, Tob Control, 19, 87-8.

VANSICKEL, A. R., COBB, C. O., WEAVER, M. F. & EISSENBERG, T. E. (2010) A clinical laboratory model for evaluating the acute effects of electronic "cigarettes": nicotine delivery profile and cardiovascular and subjective effects, Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev, 19, 1945-53.

DARREDEAU, C., CAMPBELL, M., TEMPORALE, K. & BARRETT, S. P. (2010) Subjective and reinforcing effects of electronic cigarettes in male and female smokers, Paper presented at the 12th annual meeting of the Society for Research on Nicotine and Tobacco Europe, Bath, UK, September 6-9.

VAN DER MOLEN, T., WILLEMSE, B. W., SCHOKKER, S. et al. (2003) Development, validity and responsiveness of the Clinical COPD Questionnaire, Health Qual Life Outcomes, 1, 13.

Inescapable facts:

In the U.S. where sales of electronic cigarettes containing nicotine remain legal, the smoking prevalence rate dropped in 2010.
In Canada, where sales are banned, smoking prevelance went up overall.
All research to date conducted on humans shows no harmful effects.
All research to date conducted on humans indicates beneficial health effects.
Several population surveys of users show that e-cigarettes are working for "hard core" smokers--people who tried numerous times to quit using recommended methods, but who kept relapsing.

Conclusion: It might be a good idea for Health Canada to reconsider its ban.
  • There is no beneficial effect that can be demonstrated by the ban.
  • Restricting e-cigarette sales might be having the effect of discouraging smokers from quitting.

Here is a document that lists e-cigarette research conducted to date, plus clinical trials in progress:

View attachment Electronic-Cigarette-Research.pdf
 

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Greetings oh North of the Border Neighbors:

Might you be able to use any of the following information in your discussions with Health Canada?



Inescapable facts:

In the U.S. where sales of electronic cigarettes containing nicotine remain legal, the smoking prevalence rate dropped in 2010.
In Canada, where sales are banned, smoking prevelance went up overall.
All research to date conducted on humans shows no harmful effects.
All research to date conducted on humans indicates beneficial health effects.
Several population surveys of users show that e-cigarettes are working for "hard core" smokers--people who tried numerous times to quit using recommended methods, but who kept relapsing.

Conclusion: It might be a good idea for Health Canada to reconsider its ban.
  • There is no beneficial effect that can be demonstrated by the ban.
  • Restricting e-cigarette sales might be having the effect of discouraging smokers from quitting.

Here is a document that lists e-cigarette research conducted to date, plus clinical trials in progress:

View attachment 53461

At this point Health Canada doesn't care. They are aware of all of this, it's political. Until people hit their MP's in numbers nothing will be changed. That is why people need to get seriously involved in the CASAA, in the states it is a media machine hitting public opinion and attacking everything that is anti-ecig. I'm very proud of everyone that attacked the recent CBC article here in Canada but unless we get get a grass roots movement here like in the US. We will find our suppliers dwindle and our borders tighten.
 
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I've been meaning to write my MP about this.
Personally, with a PC gov't, I think the best angle of attack would be to hit on issues the party can relate to. That is, the products create small-business opportunities (jobs!), that those *spit* bureaucrats *spit* are getting in the way of things (less govt regulation!) and that pv's could help reduce health care spending (less govt spending!).
 

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That's perfect. there is actually a law firm in your area Chinner, that caters to non profit organizations. I'd have to look it up again but we found them when setting up the race org. I was trying hard to stay NP but got outvoted... part of why I am no longer involved... having a law firm to help in representation would be huge. There's a lot of little things to do but if there was a group of people tackling a bunch of little tasks each, then the workload could be spread out.
 

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Thank Pip, for the kick in the .... needed to email my MP. The following is what he got:

Mr. Bruinooge,

Until May 18, 2011, I was a half-pack a day smoker, and had been for 25 years. I managed to quit, though, with help from a personal vaporizer (often referred to as an 'electronic cigarette'). It has since been brought to my attention that Health Canada is stonewalling attempts by the Canadian business community to introduce this device to the marketplace. I would appreciate it if someone within the government would demonstrate the leadership that is needed on this issue. I'm hoping that that person could be my MP. I have attached an information package (PDF format) on the current state of research into these devices - all of which show that not only do they have an outstanding success rate in helping people give up tobacco smoking, the devices themselves are also dramatically low-risk (see attached for details).

As you are aware, tobacco use is one of the biggest causes of illness in our country - heart disease, stroke, lung and respiratory diseases - the list is long. The damage caused is particularly apparent in the aboriginal and Metis communities, where tobacco use is significantly higher than average. The 'e-cig' could help Canadians reduce their tobacco dependence, while at the same time creating job opportunities for entrepreneurial Canadians. Unfortunately, with Health Canada unwilling to examine the issue, they have issued a blanket ban on the liquid used in the devices and are working to stop the import of e-cigarettes. This not only inhibits the growth of a new market, but cuts tobacco-using Canadians off from a potentially life-saving method of smoking cessation. In fact, answers from Health Canada indicate they classify e-cigarettes as a "smokeless tobacco product" - which only demonstrates their ignorance of the issue, as e-cigarettes contain no tobacco. Not only that, but according to Health Canada, e-cigarettes being a "smokeless tobacco product" is "the reason why they are not as popular or safe as regular cigarettes."

You read that correctly. Health Canada feels that regular cigarettes are safer than something that contains only the following:
1. Vegetable glycerin. Medically proven safe, according to Health Canada
2. Propylene Glycol. Medically proven safe by Health Canada. It's been used in asthma inhalers for years.
3. Distilled water. Medially proven safe by Health Canada
4. Food-grade flavors. Medically proven safe by Health Canada.
5. A small amount of nicotine.

Now, all of us know about the dangers of tobacco use. And we know that nicotine is not something we should be taking, either. That being said, it has been proven that nicotine replacement therapy (NRT), via a patch, gum or inhaler is an effective smoking cessation method. So why is this particular method being singled out by Health Canada? Why isn't Health Canada studying a device that (as mentioned in the document provided) shows a success rate of 79%? Why is Health Canada banning Canadian entrepreneurs from importing and selling these devices? I've provided you with links to multiple complete and on-going studies that prove that these devices are safe - why aren't the bureaucrats at Health Canada aware of this information? And if they are, why haven't they changed their position?

If my government is committed to reducing the level of harm caused by tobacco, I would hope that it would show the leadership needed on this issue, and direct Health Canada to reverse its stance on e-cigarettes, and begin studying them, rather than banning them.

I look forward to your response on this matter.
 
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