Canadian Pets Thread

[DevilFishPhil]

I've always wanted to like Cesar Milan, but when you look at the facts, read what other animal behaviorists have to say about his techniques, the fact that he has absolutely no formal training, the fact that we only ever see a 20 minute window into the dogs's rehabilitation, the suspected use of shock collars, the fact that Cesar Milan is a multi-million dollar business.

His techniques are sound, in most cases the issues almost always lies with the master rather than the dog, but I just can't take him seriously anymore, and even less any dog trainer that I've spoken to that say they use the "Cesar" method...

 

[wood]

My dog could use a little attitude adjustment

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[Lori68]

My dog has a perfectly fine personality and attitude.......once he taught me that HE is the center of the universe we got along great

I blame that on his pomeranian mix. They have a huge napoleon complex

 

[theWayISshut]

I've always wanted to like Cesar Milan, but when you look at the facts, read what other animal behaviorists have to say about his techniques, the fact that he has absolutely no formal training, the fact that we only ever see a 20 minute window into the dogs's rehabilitation, the suspected use of shock collars, the fact that Cesar Milan is a multi-million dollar business.

His techniques are sound, in most cases the issues almost always lies with the master rather than the dog, but I just can't take him seriously anymore, and even less any dog trainer that I've spoken to that say they use the "Cesar" method...

I don't see anything revolutionary about Millan's techniques. It's simple common sense if you think about it. Example: how can a dog stop displaying a certain behavior when the owner does practically zero disciplining other than "stop, no, no, no..." and let the neurotic state escalate?

Collars should not be an issue. You don't even need them if you have a balanced dog. Cesar rarely uses them on his own pack. You use leashes when you want to correct your dog and reach a certain behavior, not to mention for precautionary measures (similar to using seatbelts). The main objective in most cases is to help the dog maintain or reach a calm, receptive state. Leashes are used to get the dog snap out of an aggressive condition. In many cases, the pulling takes a second. Way too short to harm any dog. Once she calms down, the owners are told to relax the leash without any bit of tension. That's the main, important objective -- no tension. You could even opt to take off the leash after that.

It's baffling to hear these kinds of reasoning when the alternative is a lifetime of yanking and pulling everytime you take the dog for a walk which is a thousand times harmful.

 

[Justice]

I have been using similar training techniques long before Caesar became a household name and I assure you what he is doing is one of the fastest most effective training techniques out there. I have had several troubled dogs still have two who are no longer troubled. The shock collar issue is much like what the ..... mother would do to teach her young. Just like biting a dog I have bitten all of my dogs and they know I am the boss. That is all it takes.

 

[DevilFishPhil]

I'm not against the shock collar method, I'm sure there are certain cases for which it's the best solution, what bothered me is that he was not open about it, and instead hid the remote behind his back and made it seem as though the dog was responding to his "shht".

 

[martinc]

I would like to add that both my pets are rescues;

Valant is from the SPCA and Rex,I found her out at work,all wet cold and nearly dead early April about 7 yrs ago.

 

[theWayISshut]

You really need to start rewatching the show, DPhil. There's nothing magical about his method. Like I said, it's something that average folks just forget to employ because they're too busy treating their dogs like they're humans or babies. He did use shock collars in some cases where a leash would be of no use like disciplining the dog on long distances, ie, a farm dog obsessively running after moving vehicles' tires; a dog too dangerous to get close to while training; too excited to tame like going after customers after another in restaurants, etc. Only thing I would really give him total credit for is his complete familiarity in reading a dog's every little subtle ticks and signs even miles away. His is an accumulation of experiences dealing with all kinds of breeds for years. I saw not a bone of deceit from that man. He loves dogs and loves his job of rehabilitating them. He knows exactly what to do in every case. He is truly a master.

 

[Justice]

Lack of formal training does not make a non dog whisperer. I can read dogs much as Caesar can and I'm not just bragging. Maybe it's my simple mind. I have taken my lab wolf cross and made him a gentle loving affectionate sap. He crystal when people he love cry. I have taken my rotti from cowering in a puddle of pee when anyone looks at her to being a confident stable part of my family. Yes some dogs need to be bitten in order to show them who is boss. But some don't. I took my ex wife's dog and in less than ten minutes had her walking at my side without a leash. The dog would pull my ex off her feet routinely. My Simba needed an underground fence with a shock collar for his first almost year. It was necessary because if he would have escaped he would have hurt someone. Now he walks at my side with no leash looking up at me every few moments to be sure he is in exactly the right spot where he belongs at my side. They are all different and need different training but all need to know who is the boss.

 

[meeems]

Well, my black lhasa/bichon/....zsu/schnauzer/ (and any other small breed mix you can think of) OWNS me... really quite sad actually, but there's nothing i can do about it now. too late i'm afraid. he's 14, and is much older than me, and he knows it. But its okay, He lets me out in the morning and nite, and i even get to go for walks , so its worth it.

 

[Samyaza]

Here are my 3 overlords

That's Tybault - he's been mine since he was a tiny kitten. He's 10 now and has lived with me in South Africa, the Netherlands, the UK and now Canada.

He's the true head of the family!

Smeksy we got from a shelter about a year after we moved to Canada. She is an absolute lady, but some insane person had her de-clawed - all 4 paws! Needless to say she has some issues and used to get very scared around new cats/ people. Now she will run up to guests, stand on her back legs and pat them to pick her up as they walk in our front door

This here is Chibi. She arrived on our front porch in Nov 2010. She was 8 months old, looked to be the size of a 4 month old kitten. She had pneumonia and was incredibly skinny. We took her to our vet who confirmed she'd been outdoors for around 5 months and had weened kittens recently She is the most loving, happy cat I have ever come across, but she is still about 1/2 the size of Tybault <3

 

[mikeinbc]

Here's Princess. Daddy's little girl

 

[Lori68]

Gorgeous cats you've got samyaza . Wow Tybault is more worldly than most people I know! I also noticed that he's got a nice bit of pudge on his tummy....so much so that you can't see his back legs in the picture That's awesome you've brought him with you everywhere you've gone. That is a true member of the family!

Mike - what an angelic looking girl you have! She's adorable and I'm sure spoiled like the princess she is

 

[martinc]

Happy Birthday my sweet big boy!

 

[DevilFishPhil]

Happy Birthday!!

 

[kanadiankat]

Happy Birthday my sweet big boy!

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hmmm


Look at your avatar, now look at the B-day picture, now back to your avatar....


....Wow - it's true - some people look like their pets! (ha ha - happy B-day to da dude).

 

[martinc]

The aftermaths....burp.

Goes without saying,he is asleep right now

The dish:

-Half portion of his std horsemeat meal
-Layer of mozzarella
-Half pound of filet mignon,diced
-Layer of mozzarella
-Salmon oil topping

 

[ChellyNelly]

That's quite a dish! Your dog eats horse meat? That seems..... wrong! LOL

 

[WolfeReign]

View attachment 80354This is meezer, mine and my wife's mistress...ermm i mean overlord..ermm i mean sweet innocent lovable kitty

View attachment 80357 Her royal highness demanded i show how she is queen of the overlord kitties

View attachment 80355 This would be the brat, silly as anything pepper

I cannot wait to get back home to them.... immigration laws, have to love them

 

[Lori68]

Martin wish your "little" fur kid a happy birthday from me too! 10 years old?......that deserves 10 good belly rubs - after he's digested his big treat of course

Hunting wolf, gorgeous kids! I never knew collies (sorry if I mistook his breed) could have such dark fur around their face - neat!