Cancellations/Refunds

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Dumont

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Has anyone canceled an order from IV before it was shipped, and if so, how long did it take for you to get your money back?

I spoke with Mark about 3 or 4 hours ago and had him cancel my order and refund my money. He told me to expect to see the money in my account in about an hour. I've sent several emails and tried calling again but there has been no response. I'm probably being a little paranoid here, but with the way everything else has gone, I'm worried I'm going to have to fight to get it back. Can anyone help calm my nerves on this?
 
Dumont. Even with all the crap going on with shipping, lack of tracking numbers, no emails notifying an order has been shipped & the latest "atomizer conspiracy" I still believe Mark & crew are on the up'n up. Keep in mind that IV is probably trying to do some damage control...or so I hope. I honestly believe you'll get a refund. He may have already done it & it could be in your banks hands now to reissue the funds. Which if your bank is anything like mine, I've seen it take 3-4 days before seeing my online account updated.
I'd say don't fret it this evening. If no word by tomorrow give Mark a call.

Rob
 

Dumont

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Dumont. Even with all the crap going on with shipping, lack of tracking numbers, no emails notifying an order has been shipped & the latest "atomizer conspiracy" I still believe Mark & crew are on the up'n up. Keep in mind that IV is probably trying to do some damage control...or so I hope. I honestly believe you'll get a refund. He may have already done it & it could be in your banks hands now to reissue the funds. Which if your bank is anything like mine, I've seen it take 3-4 days before seeing my online account updated.
I'd say don't fret it this evening. If no word by tomorrow give Mark a call.

Rob

You've certainly made me feel a bit better about this. I figured it was just going to take some time, but it would have been nice to have an email or a phone calling letting me know it's done. Here's hoping I see in the next couple of days. Thanks!
 
I don't know about you guys but I am certainly about to ask for a refund. I have never E-smoked and quit smoking for about 5 months now (analogs). I was willing to try the e-cig to help me calm my nerves and my craving. I felt hey not a bad deal for a kit. I bought 1 about 2 days ago and it has said processing the past 2 days. I read their problem with their website and the processing thing. So I thought ok it's been 2 days it should be here soon since I got priority plus insurance. I gave him a call today and asked if my item was shipped he said of course. I said ok great. May I have a tracking number? He said OOOO you know what it didn't ship yet. We are backed up with a cartridge problem and it should be a couple days before we ship it. First of all I don't see how that is my problem?? Send out my e-cigs and I'll just drip! then send the carts when you get them. Well I asked for priority 2-3 day shipping which is out the door. I wanted the e-cig soon because I have been stressed and do not want to smoke and am trying to get everything situated for my child on the way. But If anyone knows where I might be able to get a great deal on a manual joye 510 hit me up because innovapor has ruined my experience for me before I even started.

Thanks innovapor.
 

sin0nyx

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Hey MurderSkillz, first congrats on stopping smoking for 5 months, thats awesome. I think average shipping is about 3 biz days. Anything else is just icing on the cake. However, with what you said they told you I would go elsewhere as well. But I think you should ask about vender shipping times in the general forum as it is kind of in bad taste to promote a vender in another vender's subforum.
 

K_to_the_L

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I would rather not have a refund but my product in a timely manner.

amen to you brother.

too bad i clearly stated i did not want ( options when you order ) the crappy atomizers they sent anyways. i also put a note that i would give them a chance to compete with Totally Wicked. you would think that right there would say HELLO you might have a chance at a new customer .. but instead i got ziplock baggies ( thats right no box or instructions of any kind ) and they didnt ship my 15 ml till a few days later. then when it arrived it had tape on it that was peeling off. ( why even bother dude ?? ) come on just admit it innovapor isnt FAKE its just half assed till they rip enough ppl off to get themselves going... its like i read in one of these threads on the ECF. we ( the customers ) are paying for their education.

if they discovered the PCC's were "bad" and had to send them back ( causing a 3 week wait which who can tell if will even be 3 weeks with their reliability so far displayed. ) WHY did they let a much more obvious problem ( the atomizers ) flow through to the customers ? ( even when they specifically requested to be sent the wide bands ) also i cant imagine how they processed the other 100+ orders that came after mine.

the bottom line is it costs a LOT to do this to begin with .. then there is the fact that e-cigarettes are really at a BETA stage at best.. then add in some flimsy companies with lame excuses who dont know or even seem to care ( if you cared you wouldnt have done it. ) what they are doing.... i was told i would recieve a call ( the next day ) letting me know IF the new carts they got in fit. i did not receive that call nor was the call i made returned. i would not recommend ANYONE do business with these ppl period.
 

AVITWeb

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amen to you brother.

too bad i clearly stated i did not want ( options when you order ) the crappy atomizers they sent anyways. i also put a note that i would give them a chance to compete with Totally Wicked. you would think that right there would say HELLO you might have a chance at a new customer .. but instead i got ziplock baggies ( thats right no box or instructions of any kind ) and they didnt ship my 15 ml till a few days later. then when it arrived it had tape on it that was peeling off. ( why even bother dude ?? ) come on just admit it innovapor isnt FAKE its just half assed till they rip enough ppl off to get themselves going... its like i read in one of these threads on the ECF. we ( the customers ) are paying for their education.

if they discovered the PCC's were "bad" and had to send them back ( causing a 3 week wait which who can tell if will even be 3 weeks with their reliability so far displayed. ) WHY did they let a much more obvious problem ( the atomizers ) flow through to the customers ? ( even when they specifically requested to be sent the wide bands ) also i cant imagine how they processed the other 100+ orders that came after mine.

the bottom line is it costs a LOT to do this to begin with .. then there is the fact that e-cigarettes are really at a BETA stage at best.. then add in some flimsy companies with lame excuses who dont know or even seem to care ( if you cared you wouldnt have done it. ) what they are doing.... i was told i would recieve a call ( the next day ) letting me know IF the new carts they got in fit. i did not receive that call nor was the call i made returned. i would not recommend ANYONE do business with these ppl period.

I will have both versions of attys when all is said and done...and I plan to compare them to see the differences...the running idea now (not that it really matters much to me) is that Joye did in fact make these and it is not considered a new product, it is considered a design change of an existing product (kinda like MY2008 vs MY2009 cars)
 

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amen to you brother.

too bad i clearly stated i did not want ( options when you order ) the crappy atomizers they sent anyways. i also put a note that i would give them a chance to compete with Totally Wicked. you would think that right there would say HELLO you might have a chance at a new customer .. but instead i got ziplock baggies ( thats right no box or instructions of any kind ) and they didnt ship my 15 ml till a few days later. then when it arrived it had tape on it that was peeling off. ( why even bother dude ?? ) come on just admit it innovapor isnt FAKE its just half assed till they rip enough ppl off to get themselves going... its like i read in one of these threads on the ECF. we ( the customers ) are paying for their education.

if they discovered the PCC's were "bad" and had to send them back ( causing a 3 week wait which who can tell if will even be 3 weeks with their reliability so far displayed. ) WHY did they let a much more obvious problem ( the atomizers ) flow through to the customers ? ( even when they specifically requested to be sent the wide bands ) also i cant imagine how they processed the other 100+ orders that came after mine.

the bottom line is it costs a LOT to do this to begin with .. then there is the fact that e-cigarettes are really at a BETA stage at best.. then add in some flimsy companies with lame excuses who dont know or even seem to care ( if you cared you wouldnt have done it. ) what they are doing.... i was told i would recieve a call ( the next day ) letting me know IF the new carts they got in fit. i did not receive that call nor was the call i made returned. i would not recommend ANYONE do business with these ppl period.

Just a few facts that explain some of the problems. This is not about IV but about the worldwide phenomenon.

Demand worldwide for electronic cigarettes has exploded unlike any other product and there is not the infrastructure in place yet to supply that demand. China is overwhelmed and cannot cope, so they use whatever criteria they see fit to allocate supplies. This means that there are inevitable delays, especially for smaller or new suppliers trying to start up.
IV, like many other suppliers, have been a victim of the success of electronic cigarettes and even if companies could have predicted the unprecedented rise in demand they still would not have been able to get supplies. It will remain this way until production is increased to a level that can satisfy spiralling demand and that will be some time away as we have only seen the initial 'goldrush'. News of ecigs, along with demand, is spreading like an uncontrollable virus so keep stocked and be prepared to suffer delays. Every Christmas we see the mass hysteria of people who must have the latest fad toy for their child, ecigs are causing a chain reaction but unlike the PS/Nintendo etc the factories are not able to deal with it. IV's stock issues can be attributed all the way back to the factory and on to the world market, they simply cannot get enough, but they are not alone. We are working with Noah and trying hard to help ease the backlog but even 25,000 kits a month isn't enough to keep our partners supplied, so we have been back to the factory to help them expand their capacity as we will soon need 100,000 units a month and then more.
I am not defending IV's dealings with their customers, that is nothing to do with me, but they are having an intense time trying to keep their business moving and they are good people.
John.
 
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