Can't afford a Provari - Best 2nd choice at a resonable price that doesn;t weigh a ton?

[ovrjoyd]

Provari this, Provari that. Everything I read is "just break down and buy a Provari cause you're going to do it the long run in anyway. I can't afford it. I bought a Vamo V3.

As good as it is, It is also heavy and the girth feels bulky in my chubby little hands. IDK. I still long for a Darwin, not that I could afford that either.

I like my Vamo V3 a lot but I feel like I am missing something because it's not a Provari.

 

[Confuddled]

i had a mess about with other halfs vamo v2 and that is heavy. I got a SID, its lighter and seem to just lay nice in my hand. Size wise its about the same as vamo just different feel and weight to it.

 

[Beowoulf]

Provaris are a little thinner but they are not light. I think people harp about the Provari because it is so reliable and you don't keep throwing money away with replacements. Larger initial investment but you may save in the long run. On the other hand, you can just buy a bunch of Ego VV twists and use them as disposable devices when they fail.

 

[Sanitydissected]

Vamo or innokin svd. Personally prefer the svd

 

[Thrasher]

all your missing is the quality and reliability. the vamo will do what it is supposed to do. the provari is just built better (among other things). maybe check out one of the Itaste box shaped mods or a siegelei zmax mini.

If it works and your happy then your fine. to most of the long term users who have been around the block, the idea is simply quit spending money and buy quality and be done with it, then down the road consider other things to play with and know the reliable provari will always work just in case.

for small hands the provari mini would be my bet

 

[ovrjoyd]

I am happy but I feel like I am missing something by not owning a Provari. With technology changing as fast as it is with ecigs I may not want to pay a fortune for something that will last through a nuclear holocaust when the technology is advancing so fast with product popularity. Ir's like the $5000 37" plasma screen TV a few years ago that you can get for under $200 now.

 

[ovrjoyd]

Vamo or innokin svd. Personally prefer the svd

What do you prefer about the SVD?

 

[ovrjoyd]

i had a mess about with other halfs vamo v2 and that is heavy. I got a SID, its lighter and seem to just lay nice in my hand. Size wise its about the same as vamo just different feel and weight to it.

I am not familiar with SID?

 

[Thrasher]

I am happy but I feel like I am missing something by not owning a Provari. With technology changing as fast as it is with ecigs I may not want to pay a fortune for something that will last through a nuclear holocaust when the technology is advancing so fast with product popularity. Ir's like the $5000 37" plasma screen TV a few years ago that you can get for under $200 now.

the problem with this analogy is tv's are actually changing in quality and technology. if you look at new products in vaping very few things actually have any new technology after making a purer form of voltage regulation, there is nothing much to change and on most, the only "new" devices are pretty screens and tube changes so they can keep factories in china humming and consumers buying the next new shiny. yet they use the same old chips. so not much is really evolving.

 

[State O' Flux]

As good as it is, It is also heavy and the girth feels bulky in my chubby little hands. IDK. I still long for a Darwin, not that I could afford that either.

Hmmm... "bulky in my chubby little hands".

Certainly not the best VV-VW you can get by any stretch, and perhaps not suitable for your needs, but the iTaste 3.0 comes to mind. A "stick" form factor that's actually more comfortable than an eGo... down side is 800mAh, upside is pass-through, downside is not (remotely) on par with Provari quality, upside is they're $35.

Another possible is a 14XX/16XX device like the Vapeonly vPower 14500 VV Mod or the Rider ROBUST 14500 or one of the Vaprlife mods.

 

[ovrjoyd]

all your missing is the quality and reliability. the vamo will do what it is supposed to do. the provari is just built better (among other things). maybe check out one of the Itaste box shaped mods or a siegelei zmax mini.

If it works and your happy then your fine. to most of the long term users who have been around the block, the idea is simply quit spending money and buy quality and be done with it, then down the road consider other things to play with and know the reliable provari will always work just in case.

for small hands the provari mini would be my bet

I tried it at my local vape shop . It's shorter bu the girth is still uncomfortable. It just felt too bulky. I am still getting used to my Vamo! LOL

 

[lvm111]

I probably shouldn't be offering an opinion being so new to vaping and all. But the research I've done leads me to think my Vamo SS V3, while undoubtedly of considerable lesser build quality to the Provari, has a button/menu design that is superior. I can quickly and easily change the voltage/power setting. Quickly and easily check the ohms and battery voltage. And the only time I have to fool with any menu, is when or if I want to change the output control between volts and watts. Of course that isn't even an option on the Provari anyway. What's up with that? More money for less features? It is almost 2014 isn't it?

The one button design the Provari employs just seems like an unnecessary chore. Not to mention the fact one could buy 3 (4 or 5 ?) Vamos V3's for the price of one Provari. Perhaps I'm missing something. Having not actually used one, maybe there's just no way I can comprehend the feeling of owning and using one. If so, I hope I'm not making a fool of myself for being uninformed as to the ways of Provari ownership.

Would love to hear others thoughts on this. Thank you.

best regards, larry mac

 

[ovrjoyd]

Hmmm... "bulky in my chubby little hands".

Certainly not the best VV-VW you can get by any stretch, and perhaps not suitable for your needs, but the iTaste 3.0 comes to mind. A "stick" form factor that's actually more comfortable than an eGo... down side is 800mAh, upside is pass-through, downside is not (remotely) on par with Provari quality, upside is they're $35.


Another possible is a 14XX/16XX device like the Vapeonly vPower 14500 VV Mod or the Rider ROBUST 14500 or one of the Vaprlife mods.

I will look into it. After reading some older posts I am pining away for a Darwin. If I were to spend the big bucks that seemed perfect! I wonder why they discontinued making it. It seemed like it had more advanced technology than many of the newest pV's of late.

 

[Thrasher]

I tried it at my local vape shop . It's shorter bu the girth is still uncomfortable. It just felt too bulky. I am still getting used to my Vamo! LOL

you may want to stick with one of the smaller VV batteries like the itaste vw then. as almost all of the replaceable battery tube mods will be roughly the same width, unless going to a smaller battery like something in the Lrider robust range, but then battery life suffers just as much as an ego class battery.

I wonder why they discontinued making it

the unreplaceable battery and the inconsistancy in units drove warranty repairs to an unacceptable level when it worked it worked great, but several bad units plauged the company. so instead of trying to be multi faceted they company decided to dunp all their funds into making better chips for others to use.

the DNA 12 and 20 are direct descendants of the darwin chips so if you like the features many mods now use these chips.

 

[jeffandstuff]

My buddy has the provari and a vamo, he swears he likes his vamo more. Im not sure why, but hes tried convincing me to buy one too.

 

[Baditude]

all your missing is the quality and reliability. the vamo will do what it is supposed to do. the provari is just built better (among other things). maybe check out one of the Itaste box shaped mods or a siegelei zmax mini.

If it works and your happy then your fine. to most of the long term users who have been around the block, the idea is simply quit spending money and buy quality and be done with it, then down the road consider other things to play with and know the reliable provari will always work just in case. for small hands the provari mini would be my bet

This!

I am happy but I feel like I am missing something by not owning a Provari. With technology changing as fast as it is with ecigs I may not want to pay a fortune for something that will last through a nuclear holocaust when the technology is advancing so fast with product popularity.

the problem with this analogy is tv's are actually changing in quality and technology. if you look at new products in vaping very few things actually have any new technology after making a purer form of voltage regulation, there is nothing much to change and on most, the only "new" devices are pretty screens and tube changes so they can keep factories in china humming and consumers buying the next new shiny. yet they use the same old chips. so not much is really evolving.

Again, this!

The problem with the Chinese mod makers is their business/manufacturing philosophy. In short, "We make cheap. You buy cheap. It break, you buy another."

I'm sorry, but I work hard for my hard-earned cash, and I'm sure everyone else does too. I much prefer paying a little more for something I know will last and buy just once, and should it break I want to know that I can get it repaired, not replace it ($$) with another cheap mod that has a good chance to need to be replaced, too. This does not fit in with China-made mods across the board. China will never make a mod of the quality of the Provari, nor be able to offer the customer service that Provape does. A Provari is an investment for the long term vapor.

People who work with mechanical or power tools for a living understand this. Inexpensive tools break down and fail easily, while quality brand name tools last years even under hard use.

Not everyone can afford a Provari. I get that, too. You can get a very satisfying vape from one of the less expensive Chinese selections. The iTaste MVP comes to mind. I've owned one, and liked it nearly as much as my Provari's. Battery lasts 2 - 3 days per charge. Lightweight and pocket-friendly. I won mine for free, used it for about 2 months, and then payed-it-forward to a close friend who wanted to try vaping.

 

[dhomes]

if you long for a darwin and are willing to spend a $110 you can have its performance for sure (even better now)

just grab a mech mod and a kick 2, batteries and charger and you are all set for a better experience than that of the provari

 

[Thrasher]

been playing with a K2 and Crown2 for a couple days now. must say these drop ins have come a long way, and provide a very enjoyable vape

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

This!


Again, this!

The problem with the Chinese mod makers is their business/manufacturing philosophy. In short, "We make cheap. You buy cheap. It break, you buy another."

I'm sorry, but I work hard for my hard-earned cash, and I'm sure everyone else does too. I much prefer paying a little more for something I know will last and buy just once, and should it break I want to know that I can get it repaired, not replace it ($$) with another cheap mod that has a good chance to need to be replaced, too. This does not fit in with China products in general. China will never make a mod of the quality of the Provari, or be able to offer the customer service that Provape does. A Provari is an investment for the long term vapor.

Not everyone can afford a Provari. I get that, too. You can get a very satisfying vape from one of the less expensive Chinese selections. The iTaste MVP comes to mind. I've owned one, and liked it nearly as much as my Provari's. I won one for free, used it for about 2 months, and then payed-it-forward to a close friend who wanted to try vaping.

That's a thread ender right there.

If you can afford a Provari and you can justify the expenditure, by all means pull the trigger. You can't go wrong.

If you can't afford a Provari, or just want an entry level regulated mod to play with, just to see if this APV thing is the route to take, then pull the trigger on the Vamo, MVP, SVD or Zmax. You can't go wrong here, either.

 

[retired1]

If not a tube mod, why not a box mod such as the Innokin MVP? You get a smaller form factor that's lighter and it performs very well. Won't break the bank, either.