cant get coils right

[Chickenstew702]

Cant get coils right. I know I need to buy drill bits for my wraps and an Ohm reader. But is there anything I can do in the mean time? Ive been using a smaller screw driver and 22 gauge kanthal wire to wrap my coils. Its supposed to be dual coil and I can only use one coil because on the sigelei 100 watt box mod it wont let you use it if you dont wrap safe coils. Or if its too hot or something. Im a noob so youd know more than I would. Which I love that about the Sigelei but I want to be able to build my own coils so bad so I can really use my mod. I get them tight, perfectly close together, ive tried 3 wraps 4 wraps 5 wraps. They look so beautimous. .. then they dont work!! And then I remember im a noob again lol. But im not discouraged at all. I just need to talk to the right person and find out what Im doing wrong and learn how to do it right.

I've been looking for an answer for my question and cant find a simple answer and I know its imperative to have an Ohm reader and be safe and everything. But can someone tell me a simple and safe coil build so I can get a lot of vapor on a dual coil build? I just need to know a common drill bit size and best size wire to use. and ill buy them and the ohm reader. I have 22g wire and 28g wire so far. Im waiting for my 26g from Lightening Vapes to come in. Anyways if anyone knows of a simple build I can do and size drill bit I can buy pleaseee.

 

[RWClark]

Don't think you are going to get much help. What you are doing is too dangerous for anyone to mess with. Get a ohm meter then we will talk. Just giving you a formula will not work because you will not know if it is shorted or has any other problems.

 

[dice57]

hmm, well 22 gauge is some serious low resistance wire, but I'd check the center pin on the Sigelei, make sure it's getting contact with the 510 pin. It is left handed threads on the adjustable center pin.. The Sigelei has a decent ohm meter built in, so should get ya by.

What's the ohms of the build you are trying to fire???

 

[Jockamo]

The xperts will chime in probably before I post this but start with your 28g. 22 is some heavy duty wire.

What are you building for?

In my dual coil kanger sub ohm tank I use 26 gauge and wrapped about 8 coils around a small screwdriver which I cant tell you the diameter. Came out to .5 ohm.

This may help. Coil Toy - Online calculator for e-cigarette resistance coil building

 

[KGB7]

Welcome to the forum newb!

Firs thing first, stay away from 22guage wire before you burn down the house.


Now use the 28gauge wire and build a single coil using 3/32 size drill bit. Youll want 6-7 wraps on each coil. With dual coils that will bring you to around 0.6ohm if you did it right. Sigelei 100 wont fire below 0.3ohm and thats why the 22gauge wire is not working.
You can go to your local hardware store and get a mutlimeter and use it as an ohm meter. Search youtube how do to so.

Heres a calculator for you to use. Coil wrapping | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

 

[gopher_byrd]

Before you build coils, especially coils that low, you need to read about battery safety and ohms law. There are lots of resources here on ECF. You need to spend some time reading before you build anything close to what you are building. We don't want you to become a statistic!

 

[rhean]

Here's an online thing that shows you how long to cut the wire, etc., for the resistance you have in mind Coil Toy - Online calculator for e-cigarette resistance coil building Don't even try to do anything until you get an ohm meter, though. This is not an exact science

As everyone has said, do not mess with the 22 gauge. A 3-5 wrap dual coil with a 22 gauge would be hitting at a minus range--ie., it wouldn't work. Stick with the 28. Start with a single coil.

WAIT till you get the ohm meter! You don't want to see the New Year in with a fire.

 

[Cavenerd]

Ok, my friend. First off, WELCOME.

Now here's what you need to do:

1) Put down the 22g and back away slowly. I said "PUT DOWN THE 22g AND BACK AWAY SLOWLY." Dual coil 22g with 3-4 wraps is like .1ohm or under. Just my thoughts on the matter, but you should not be chasing clouds until you have a firm and thorough grasp of what your PV's capable of doing, BATTERY SAFETY, and also exactly what you have in mind for your resistance and what you want that resistance to do for you. Do you want a hot moist vape? Do you want a full, dense cloud of flavor? Do you want to set your house on fire? Or do you just want to impress the pretty Vaperita (That's like a sexy lady vaper. Vaper + Señorita) at your local B&M.

2) Read everything you can about battery safety.

3) Understand everything you read about battery safety. If you need clarification on a finer point or the general concepts, ask the questions here and folks will line up to help you out. We all want you to have the vape experience you want, safely.

4) Go to your local B&M and have the folks that work there walk you through some basic builds WITH THE CORRECT TOOLS and show you some of the correct techniques.

5) Get the tools you need. My first few weeks of coiling I checked every build I made with an actual multimeter. Not the cheap ohmmeter you can get everywhere on the internet, but an actual multimeter. Why was I being such a sissy you may ask? It's because I like my face and my fingers and my house and I realized I was learning. Now, I don't usually measure unless it's something new that I've never tried before. That comes with experience and practice.

You will get there, but you have to put in the time and the practice and the reading.

Good luck. Keep on Vapin'.

 

[Warpigs]

Whatever you do, be careful.

 

[NeuReleases]

Yeahhhh you are not going to be wanting to start of on coil building with 22g, honestly TOO low resistance wire for your beginner builds, around 28-30 would be a much safer learning curve. Go out, grab an ohm reader and some bits/precision screwdrivers with accurate diameters. Oh yeah and you should def be reading up on ohms law, you should consider yourself lucky that you were using a good regulated device like the sigelei with built in safety features and not some mech mod, because it could have blown up in your face. Literally.

 

[Chickenstew702]

Thanks for the quick replies errone. Jackoma im using a Sig-S ontop of my new Sigelei 100 watt box. Im waiting for my 26 g wire to come in the mail along with a Tugboat clone (which now I wish I wouldve gotten a Plume Viel) cus theres a lot of good reviews on those. And yeah I figured out this 22g wire I shouldnt be messin with. My local shop gave it to me and they new I was a 1st timer on wrapping coils. But anyways it aint there fault. Im trying to stay as safe as possible but still wanna get ze cloudzzz

 

[Chickenstew702]

TY KGB! And im gunna be staying away from 22g wire till I at least have a good year under my belt on dripping and building. At least I have some direction now. Thank u everyone!

 

[Bjorhyn]

I know I need to buy an Ohm reader. But is there anything I can do in the mean time?

What you are doing is too dangerous for anyone to mess with. Get a ohm meter then we will talk..

WAIT till you get the ohm meter! You don't want to see the New Year in with a fire.

Not the cheap ohmmeter you can get everywhere on the internet, but an actual multimeter.

Whatever you do, be careful.

Go out, grab an ohm reader.

In the mean time? Get an ohm meter.

 

[Chickenstew702]

Lol thanks! I will deff throw out the 22g for awhile and ima stick to 26 and 28g for now. And as for as impressing sexy vaporitas .. im not a lezzy I myself am a vaporita. Lol anyway. Thanks for ur advice I will keep on doin my research on batteries and Ohm safety. Ive been watching tons of vlogs on youtube but some of them dont know what theyre doin so im weeding through them. But there are a few good people on there who know a lot. Thanks again for the advice and quick response.

 

[Chickenstew702]

When I get my Ohm reader.. what Ohms are safe to vape at and what gauge drill bits do I use? I dont even know which ones to look up so I can begin to buy some or know the size or anything.

 

[Bjorhyn]

When I get my Ohm reader.. what Ohms are safe to vape at and what gauge drill bits do I use? I dont even know which ones to look up so I can begin to buy some or know the size or anything.

Safe ohms are directly related to the continuous amp rating of your battery.
If you want to be hovering around .2-.3, you'll be needing a Sony 18650 VTC4 (VCT4?) It's amp rating is 30a. Please read up on battery safety. I'd explain more, but it would rob you of the chance to learn it yourself, which is incredibly important.

Remember, happy vaping is safe vaping!

 

[HecticEnergy]

Welcome to the party

Yes, good tools are important, your brain is the one you will have to rely on when building.
The right batteries are VERY important. Make sure you have good ones from a reputable source like RTDvapes or Illumination Supply or Sun Vapers (i'm sure there are others, but defiantly no fast tech, eBay, or amazon...)
Make sure you understand battery safety of using batteries in dual battery mod (using batteries in series and in parallel) as there are more things to be careful of when using and charging batteries for dual battery mods.
I still mostly use 28 ga. You can get your fat clouds with 28ga on that 100w mod. Start building around 1+ ohms, then you can drop it down if you need to. With that 100w mod you should be able to crank the power up on it to get the vape you want (hot dense clouds or whatever). Knowing ohms law apparently doesn't make this obvious to vapers, but if you build higher you can use a wider range of the voltage settings on your regulated device.
Steam-Engine.org is something to book mark as it will help you with ohms law to build your coils. It is not a substitute for an ohm reader or knowing how Ohms law, but its a nice quick tool to help build coils.
Good luck!

 

[Chickenstew702]

Thanks HecticEnergy I will use them and Im trying out an app I saw someone post in here before for ohms and building. It confuses me still but the more I read the more I get it

 

[drunkenbatman]

I've been looking for an answer for my question and cant find a simple answer and I know its imperative to have an Ohm reader and be safe and everything. But can someone tell me a simple and safe coil build so I can get a lot of vapor on a dual coil build?

First of all, you sound delicious right now. Second of all, everyone here has your best intentions at heart, but I know it can suck when you're researching and feeling around and being told to come back when you've reached level 7. You technically should have an ohm meter built into your mod, you're just lacking a lot of basic coil knowledge. In addition to what was given above, the below is a great link with a ton of great info and you'll probably have an idea of where you want to be after you soak it up.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...op-reference-shop-new-experienced-vapers.html

Really, really consider targeting ~1.5ohm to start. If you're a bit off you'll be a bit off, but you'll have to really mess up... and then start working lower from there if you want.

 

[HauntedMyst]

After you get your ohm meter, get a coil building jig.