Cartomizer vs Atomizer/Cartridge & Brands

[Lolly007]

Abit overwhelmed with all these numbers and models. I have read quite a bit of knowledge on the e-cig but after reading this forum i think i am more confused. I don't understand all the type model numbers and how they relate to the brand that i am looking at. Are these generic numbers ?Still confused!

Cartomizer vs. Atomizer? Disposable? WTF!
The smoke stik company only has regular and menthol, can i buy a different brand of tip cartomizer or atomizer/cartridge, and get my own juice?
Don't know what to order and if is compatible with others?

 

[WomanOfHeart]

The numbers actually refer to the threads. Anything that says 510 will work with a 510 connection no matter what the brand is. Same thing for 901, 801, ect.

 

[Stownz]

Numbers are for the threads. As in terms of models, there are lots of rebranders out there and I can understand why that is confusing. Try only doing business with the shops that don't rebrand, that way you know what you are buying.

Here are some common manufacturers that get rebranded:
smoktech
Boge
SLB
Joye<-- doesn't usually get rebranded
Kranger
Microcig/Royalsmoker<--- failomizer lines

 

[Lolly007]

Love the responses please keep them coming!

 

[cyberwolf]

You mentioned Smoke Stik. That is essentially a rebranded RN4081 as far as I know. If you're really set on that model, be sure to check out the RN4081 sub-forum. RN4081s are not terrible, but at the prices Smoke Stik charges there are a lot of great options.

 

[Stosh]

Cartomizer is a heater, and filler or some sort of juice holder all in one, used with "2-piece e-cig"
Atomizer is the heater alone, used with a cartridge and filler to hold the juice, aka "3-piece"

When you're shopping (hope you checked out the Forum Suppliers lots of good deals) if the
vendor doesn't make it clear the model (aka threading 510, 801, etc) or their operating voltage
or the mah (how long the battery should last on a charge), or how many mg of nicotine in their
juice (high - med - low not good) .....RUN AWAY.

It would be like buying a pair of shoes without knowing the size or color or if they're loafers or not...

 

[lariders]

Cartomizer is a heater, and filler or some sort of juice holder all in one, used with "2-piece e-cig"
Atomizer is the heater alone, used with a cartridge and filler to hold the juice, aka "3-piece"

When you're shopping (hope you checked out the Forum Suppliers lots of good deals) if the
vendor doesn't make it clear the model (aka threading 510, 801, etc) or their operating voltage
or the mah (how long the battery should last on a charge), or how many mg of nicotine in their
juice (high - med - low not good) .....RUN AWAY.

It would be like buying a pair of shoes without knowing the size or color or if they're loafers or not...

Very well said. If your going to use a cartomizer and want blanks I am not sure who has the better ones. I am still new.

 

[Lolly007]

A couple of things that i am really looking for is the weight, diameter, and sleek & slim as well as battery life, and flavor options. Do i just get a blank cartomizer? Which is the slimest e-cig that is a good buy?

 

[Stosh]

..... If your going to use a cartomizer and want blanks I am not sure who has the better ones.......

Depends on your taste, I like CE2s, others do not, they may like go-go cartos, I do not. There is a wide
variety of cartos available, from CE2, tanks, tank-mods, vortex, dual-coil, boge, ikvape, etc.. and each
has their fans. The good thing is cartos are fairly cheap to try a box, if they're not to your liking - straight
into your storage box for back-ups. Even a lousy carto is better than none, waiting for a shipment

 

[Mickster]

Smokestick has an entire subforum here that I'm sure can give you oodles of info.

SmokeStik

 

[Stosh]

A couple of things that i am really looking for is the weight, diameter, and sleek & slim as well as battery life, and flavor options. Do i just get a blank cartomizer? Which is the slimest e-cig that is a good buy?

Sleek and slim translates to crummy battery life. It's the difference between a AAA flashlight battery and your car battery, they're both batteries but the amount of stored power is quite different. A 510 or KR808 are the slimiest that are reasonably serviceable depending on your smoking habits. A pack - pack 'n a half day habit, and changing batteries every hour or two can drive you nuts.

In that case an ego / riva (510) bigger battery would make more sense, they'e about the size of a sharpie pen.

 

[swedishfish]

Sleek and slim translates to crummy battery life. It's the difference between a AAA flashlight battery and your car battery, they're both batteries but the amount of stored power is quite different. A 510 or KR808 are the slimiest that are reasonably serviceable depending on your smoking habits. A pack - pack 'n a half day habit, and changing batteries every hour or two can drive you nuts.

In that case an ego / riva (510) bigger battery would make more sense, they'e about the size of a sharpie pen.

That's what I mentioned in the other thread. For the price of a smoke stick you can get yourself an ego and a 510 for when you want something smaller and the parts are interchangeable.

 

[Mickster]

In that case an ego / riva (510) bigger battery would make more sense, they'e about the size of a sharpie pen.

The Magma Manual Mega (volcano's version of a 510 mega battery) lasts me 4-5 hours of heavy vaping. Which I find pretty good.

 

[Stosh]

The Magma Manual Mega (volcano's version of a 510 mega battery) lasts me 4-5 hours of heavy vaping. Which I find pretty good.

Heavy vaping would be how many mL of juice used?
Volcano only claims 2 hours battery life on their own website?

 

[Mickster]

dunno... a cartomizer full...

 

[hairball]

Heavy vaping would be how many mL of juice used?
Volcano only claims 2 hours battery life on their own website?

I can only speak for myself. I have a very heavy vaping habit....6-7ml's of juice a day. Most people average 3ml or less (from what I've read).

Ego batteries last 4-6 hours for most people. Smaller batteries, well good luck in getting over 2 hours tops.

 

[Bogey]

For reference I was a 2 PAD smoker (lights). I vape about 5ml's a day at 11mg but am moving up to 18. I use the KR808-d1 from Vapor 4 Life (Vapor King). I use thier XL batteries which are about 380mah. I would think in straight math terms, 3 xl's are about the equivalent of a 1000mah big battery. Just tonight I have been browsing the forums, vaped 6 carto's (to bland taste) and none of the 3 batts next to me have blinked out yet. I normally carry 4-6 with me during a normal day, and thats the rub. One big battery, or many small ones. It all depends on what your willing to put up with. After a month and a half of reading ECF I think the key is that it all depends on what you are willing to put up with and can tolerate right now, and knowing that what you can put up with, or handle will change as you get more into vaping.

I often see that you have tol give up your need for something small, to be satisfied. I don't like that argument. I agree with it, but many who have found thier comfort zone know how great it is, and really want you to get there too. It depends on how willing and prepared you are. It depends on what you like, what your habits are, and your personal nature. I know that I still have many many circumstances where it's nice to have something small and slim, where as there are other times big and beefy does make a lot of sense. That's why I think it's really good to do your research here on ECF and decide what will work for you.

For me personally, multiple xl KR8 batts are working for me, and I know that I will most likely want longer life in the future in a single battery. Thats where learning alll the models will help you in knowing what works across multiple platforms.

Overall you have made the hardest and best choice already, and that is to get off the analogs. Ask yourself some questions and read up, and find a comfort zone that works for you. Welcome to ECF!

 

[Stosh]

@ Bogey, you reminded me of my own experience starting out, not nearly as thought out as yours.

I had a M401, traveling with 4 batteries, and can remember having 3 charging, the last starting to run out, nic fitting and watching for one, any one battery to turn green on the charger!! LOL You are quite right in finding a comfort zone, mine is not leaving the house with less than 3000 to 5000 total mah, fully charged, I was scarred for life I guess.

The mah of your battery only tells half the story for vaping, it is the total amount of power the battery can hold. In vaping it is also important to keep in mind how fast that power can be delivered to the carto or atty. I've found that the better my PVs and equipment can deliver huge clouds of thick vapor, the more I've been able to drop my nicotine level. I was a 1 1/2 pad (stronger the better) addict, and I'm into vaping for the nicotine.

 

[ShannonA]

Heavy vaping would be how many mL of juice used?
Volcano only claims 2 hours battery life on their own website?

Not on the mega I think it's 4-6 on the mega if I recall. I get about 3 out of mine usually sometimes less sometimes more. and I pretty much chain vape. The mega is just an XL so 250mah? If I remember right.

ETA: I checked the site and on the mega it says an hr longer than the small so 2-3 hours for a moderate to heavy vaper. I guess I'm moderate, have a really good battery, or Volcano was being cautious about their claim.

 

[Stosh]

Not on the mega I think it's 4-6 on the mega if I recall. I get about 3 out of mine usually sometimes less sometimes more. and I pretty much chain vape. The mega is just an XL so 250mah? If I remember right.

Not sure the mah, Volcano doesn't say, all they put on their website is "last an hour longer that regular battery" and they say the standard battery lasts an hour???? Often wonder if it would be more useful if batteries were rated in how many mL of juice they could vaporize on each charge......LOL

Heavy vaping for me is going thru 2mL - 26mg juice driving to work when the traffic is worse than usual.... used to be near a 1/2 pack of camel filters.