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Then perhaps ya need to change your addy to LittleAngel'sWay. LOLzLOL Isaac, I've been trying very hard to be good and not have the thread take a wrong turn.
Thanks for the pic, it did not provide what I was looking for e.g how the liquid travels up the tube, which I do not believe it does. But without having one to look at is pure speculation at this point and a moot one at that. Regardless how they function, the top placed coil is still brilliant.
Once Isaac receives his shipments I will be ordering some regardless, providing he has attys in that shipment as well. I appreciate you taking a new one apart for us. I won't but will take an expired one apart though, to really see what is going on.
Well, I am just flabbergasted. Our conversation was relatively clean until you pluralized nipple. Mr vape
Regardless enjoy the recipe when you get around to making it.
See the gap between the white plastic and the brass connector... the filler is actually tucked up in there pretty good. I had to rip it out when I took it apart. It just looks like what it may do. And maybe the tube is just air flow. I flunked science so I'm the last person to ask LOL Anyway I took it further apart, maybe this will tell you more. I'm all for ripping one apart to see how it works! But this is it, I don't think I can take this one much further apart 
Well, I am just flabbergasted. Our conversation was relatively clean until you pluralized nipple. Mr vape
ROFL I missed that he said that. Too funny!!! Good catch Switched!!
I do have a halo by the way... It's just down around my neck instead of over my head
Lulz,
Yup! that is just for airflow. It doesn't go up there. Under normal vaping, the liquid from other cartos is sucked up the batting so to speak. The coil i situated about the middle, well at least the old ones I have pulled apart. The vaping phenomenum previously mentioned, renders the bottom of the carto to become relatively dry with moderate heavy vaping. The liquid will accumulate at the top of the batting. It is very hard to explain, but you need to trust me on this.
That is why mfrs say to take a drag or two and let it rest 1 - 10 min. Whoa, we are not about to do that. We take ten to fifteen drags per cig/session. The batting needs time between drags to re-distribute the liquid uniformally throughout the cart, before another vaping session ensues.
Having the coil at the top of the batting ensures that the wettest area of the batting, under normal vaping circumstances, is always wet/moist. This will prevent (on paper anyway) burning the batting prematurely. In this particular case/carto I would definitely use the back end condom filling method, for refilling. This would ensure the liquid is where it is suppose to be, and the "jelling" period greatly diminished after refilling.
When filling from the batt end the batting at the "mouth" end becomes saturated first, and hence an improper indication of the carto being full will ocur, with each and every subsequent filling as the carto becomes "greasy", it will retain/receive less and less liquid. This is going to occur whether the batting is completly saturated or not. As the batting can no longer accept liquid it will travel up the mesh tube and stop the reception of any further liquid. This is where the cart needs to rest for proper dispersion of the liquid uniformally, prior to vaping, or the Taryn spin applied.
Having the coil closer to the mouthpiece will ensure that the carto is ready for use after top off. During vaping, the liquid will indeed disperse uniformally to the remaining portion of the batting. The cart should contain roughly 30 drops, which equates to about 180 toots, which in turn represents about 10-12 cigarettes before the need to retop the carto, due to a decrease in vapour preduction. This is at a ratio of 5-6 hits/drop. As one can only recover 2/3 or 66% of a charge, the remainder becomes the reserve tank, and should not be vaped into, in prolonging the life of the cart.
Thanks for sharing the pics with us, and sorry for the long explanation. But I do know which cartos I will be going with and perhaps have given others a vbetter understanding of what is going on there.
Yup! that is just for airflow. It doesn't go up there. Under normal vaping, the liquid from other cartos is sucked up the batting so to speak. The coil i situated about the middle, well at least the old ones I have pulled apart. The vaping phenomenum previously mentioned, renders the bottom of the carto to become relatively dry with moderate heavy vaping. The liquid will accumulate at the top of the batting. It is very hard to explain, but you need to trust me on this.
That is why mfrs say to take a drag or two and let it rest 1 - 10 min. Whoa, we are not about to do that. We take ten to fifteen drags per cig/session. The batting needs time between drags to re-distribute the liquid uniformally throughout the cart, before another vaping session ensues.
Having the coil at the top of the batting ensures that the wettest area of the batting, under normal vaping circumstances, is always wet/moist. This will prevent (on paper anyway) burning the batting prematurely. In this particular case/carto I would definitely use the back end condom filling method, for refilling. This would ensure the liquid is where it is suppose to be, and the "jelling" period greatly diminished after refilling.
When filling from the batt end the batting at the "mouth" end becomes saturated first, and hence an improper indication of the carto being full will ocur, with each and every subsequent filling as the carto becomes "greasy", it will retain/receive less and less liquid. This is going to occur whether the batting is completly saturated or not. As the batting can no longer accept liquid it will travel up the mesh tube and stop the reception of any further liquid. This is where the cart needs to rest for proper dispersion of the liquid uniformally, prior to vaping, or the Taryn spin applied.
Having the coil closer to the mouthpiece will ensure that the carto is ready for use after top off. During vaping, the liquid will indeed disperse uniformally to the remaining portion of the batting. The cart should contain roughly 30 drops, which equates to about 180 toots, which in turn represents about 10-12 cigarettes before the need to retop the carto, due to a decrease in vapour preduction. This is at a ratio of 5-6 hits/drop. As one can only recover 2/3 or 66% of a charge, the remainder becomes the reserve tank, and should not be vaped into, in prolonging the life of the cart.
Thanks for sharing the pics with us, and sorry for the long explanation. But I do know which cartos I will be going with and perhaps have given others a vbetter understanding of what is going on there.
Hi Switched,
When you say we should use the "back end filling method" you mean filling it at the battery end correct?
To be perfectly honest I didn't understand half of what you said,
but are you saying the Taryn method would not work well?
Nope, I meant the mouth piece end using the condom method with 25-30 drops (30 because WWay says it will accept 30), on first charge and about 20 after that.Hi Switched,
When you say we should use the "back end filling method" you mean filling it at the battery end correct?
To be perfectly honest I didn't understand half of what you said,
The Taryn spin IMHO would not be necessary, as the liquid is being vaporise at the top of the cart vice the bottom. The Taryn spin forces all the liquid to one end to permit adding more liquid than necessary. Although you will get a longer mileage out of the cart, the cart will be too wet for the atomiser to operate efficiently, for a good portion of the cart in the beginning, for which an educated guess will equal the amount added after the spin.
Once you get to know me a little more, you will come to find I tend towards efficiency more than convenience.
Nope, I meant the mouth piece end using the condom method with 25-30 drops (30 because WWay says it will accept 30), on first charge and about 20 after that.
The Taryn spin IMHO would not be necessary, as the liquid is being vaporise at the top of the cart vice the bottom. The Taryn spin forces all the liquid to one end to permit adding more liquid than necessary. Although you will get a longer mileage out of the cart, the cart will be too wet for the atomiser to operate efficiently, for a good portion of the cart in the beginning, for which an educated guess will equal the amount added after the spin.
Once you get to know me a little more, you will come to find I tend towards efficiency more than convenience.
Ahhh, I didn't know people used the condom method from the mouth piece end. I always just drip it in. Would that be just as good?
Nothing wrong with efficiency. In fact, I think the more efficient you are, the more convenient things are in the long run. If that makes any sense.
Thank you Switched!!! That all makes perfect sense especially after having taken one apart. I'm so glad you could see enough in the pictures to be able to come up with your conclusions. I am all for the efficiently part over the convenience!! I actually stop at 25 drops on first fill, even though I have gotten 30 in one. It just seems to work better. Then I top with 10 drops through my drip tip about once an hour. I do not wash out cartos and keep using them. I use them for several days, usually 4-7 days and when they start to taste bad or get too sluggish I toss them out and get a new one. I'm happy if I can get 3 days at a minimum on one. To me it is still cost effective.
I was only using the cartos on my Lazers for when I was away from home so I didn't have to drip, but lately I have been running one on my Chameleon for everyday constant use. I am not easy on cartos as I can not seem to take small hits or wait between hits and these are holding up well for me. I'm looking forward to what you have to say when you actually get to use one.
Thank you again for taking the time to provide the working details, it was my pleasure to be able to provide the pictures to help out.
Happy Vaping!!
I was only using the cartos on my Lazers for when I was away from home so I didn't have to drip, but lately I have been running one on my Chameleon for everyday constant use. I am not easy on cartos as I can not seem to take small hits or wait between hits and these are holding up well for me. I'm looking forward to what you have to say when you actually get to use one.
Thank you again for taking the time to provide the working details, it was my pleasure to be able to provide the pictures to help out.
Happy Vaping!!
Katya don't worry. They're in transit. hint hint
Witchway beat you to it! Sorry!
Now about those lasers of yours... I've been eyeing them... Are they in transit too? Hint, hint...
Are they pink, by any chance?
Hi, SkyDragon, long time no see.
WWay, thank you for posting these pictures, here and there. I'm still hoping the black cartos will be back in stock soon (hint, hint...), if not, I'll have to order the pink ones (hint).
I so want to see the after version.
Oh Come on pink on Yellow looks good...
LOL
Hi, SkyDragon, long time no see.
WWay, thank you for posting these pictures, here and there. I'm still hoping the black cartos will be back in stock soon (hint, hint...), if not, I'll have to order the pink ones (hint).
I so want to see the after version.
Hi Katya. I didn't see this. How are you doing?
I am eagerly awaiting the results of what these look like after usage.
Witchway beat you to it! Sorry!
Now about those lasers of yours... I've been eyeing them... Are they in transit too? Hint, hint...
Are they pink, by any chance?
LOL it was only 2 and I'm betting you'll want more when he gets them back in stock
I'm having so much fun trading I'm going to need more too 
Nothing like sharing a meal, I mean vape with family and friendsI'm having so much fun trading I'm going to need more too
Yeah, right. Real good.
I'm fine.
So am I. Very eagerly.
LOL it was only 2 and I'm betting you'll want more when he gets them back in stock
Yup. Trading rocks.
Nothing like sharing a meal, I mean vape with family and friends
Indeed.
Ok as promised here are the used carto pics. Started this carto on Thursday morning and ended it just a short bit ago. I did not baby this carto in any way and actually probably used it more than normal. It has been on 3 different PVs. My Lazer mod, the Chameleon, both are 3.7volts and my other PV at 4.5 volts. I did a quick rinse out before cutting it apart just to get the juice out of the way since I did not think the discoloring that happens to the juice was important to the pictures.
You will notice that the filler itself has no marks on it at all. The dark marks on the inner wrapping, or sock as I refer to it, do not appear to be burns as much as discoloration caused by the juice gunk that builds up on any coil. It does not go all the way through and is strictly on the top. I looked very closely at it through a magnifying glass and had hubby look too. The third shot is my best attempt at getting a close up of the dark spots. You will also notice that the mesh like tube that goes around the wires has no dark marks or signs of burning around the top edge that sits right next to the coil.
Considering I did have this at 4.5 volts for a few hours, my humble opinion is that these cartos are definitely burn resistant and are harder to burn than other cartos I have tried. As stated before, no carto is ever going to be completely burn proof as long as you have the inner sock and filler that close to the hot coil.
I have some other cartos (non 510) I've traded into on their way to test out, but I highly doubt any can do better. Some may equal it, but it will be tough to find better.
Conclusion... IkenVape 510 cartos are the best cartos on the market right now and Isaac needs to get lots more of them in stock and soon
You will notice that the filler itself has no marks on it at all. The dark marks on the inner wrapping, or sock as I refer to it, do not appear to be burns as much as discoloration caused by the juice gunk that builds up on any coil. It does not go all the way through and is strictly on the top. I looked very closely at it through a magnifying glass and had hubby look too. The third shot is my best attempt at getting a close up of the dark spots. You will also notice that the mesh like tube that goes around the wires has no dark marks or signs of burning around the top edge that sits right next to the coil.
Considering I did have this at 4.5 volts for a few hours, my humble opinion is that these cartos are definitely burn resistant and are harder to burn than other cartos I have tried. As stated before, no carto is ever going to be completely burn proof as long as you have the inner sock and filler that close to the hot coil.
I have some other cartos (non 510) I've traded into on their way to test out, but I highly doubt any can do better. Some may equal it, but it will be tough to find better.
Conclusion... IkenVape 510 cartos are the best cartos on the market right now and Isaac needs to get lots more of them in stock and soon
Sorry for two posts, but I've been sitting here studying the dark marks on the inner sock. I like everybody do not want to be inhaling burnt polyfill. Actually after handling the inner sock so much I believe it to be cotton and not poly. Which makes more sense since the poly actually holds the liquid, it doesn't really absorb it, but cotton absorbs. Having the inner sock out of cotton would serve two purposes, one it is burn resistant and two it would draw the liquid out of the poly and pull it to the coil. Ok so that's just my theory and not what I came here to write about LOL.
Back to the point... After staring at the dark marks a light bulb finally turned on and I realized that I could wash the sock with soap and water and probably get a much better idea if there had been actual burning or if the dark marks were only residue from the coil. Sooooooooo here a close up pic of the area where the dark marks were.
Back to the point... After staring at the dark marks a light bulb finally turned on and I realized that I could wash the sock with soap and water and probably get a much better idea if there had been actual burning or if the dark marks were only residue from the coil. Sooooooooo here a close up pic of the area where the dark marks were.
I'm quite pleased with the results!! And this really concludes my study of the 510 cartos
Thanks for sharing this with us, and you are getting to be a mighty fine detectiveSorry for two posts, but I've been sitting here studying the dark marks on the inner sock. I like everybody do not want to be inhaling burnt polyfill. Actually after handling the inner sock so much I believe it to be cotton and not poly. Which makes more sense since the poly actually holds the liquid, it doesn't really absorb it, but cotton absorbs. Having the inner sock out of cotton would serve two purposes, one it is burn resistant and two it would draw the liquid out of the poly and pull it to the coil. Ok so that's just my theory and not what I came here to write about LOL.
Back to the point... After staring at the dark marks a light bulb finally turned on and I realized that I could wash the sock with soap and water and probably get a much better idea if there had been actual burning or if the dark marks were only residue from the coil. Sooooooooo here a close up pic of the area where the dark marks were.
I'm quite pleased with the results!! And this really concludes my study of the 510 cartos
This is the type of stuff I live for. It is perfectly alright to go gaga over a product, but many fail to say why. This type of information sharing and interaction allows us to make educated decisions wrt products we purchase. Bravo to all and kudos to Isaac.
Isaac you do realise your job has become twice as hard now don't ya?
Keeping the Chinese on their toes and maintaining adequate inventories Ya spoiled us, now we want nothing but the best 
Bravo, WW! Very, very informative post. Thanks so much for all the research and time you put into this for all of us! 
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