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[moorea]

Well if that is the case it either came like that or there was a sliver blocking the slots.

I did not think to check them before I filled it. I just assumed that if they slotted it, it was done properly. I was however doing all sorts of swirling and checking after the first horible tasting toke hoping that would fix it. It looked liked the slots were opened, but that is of course looking through the liquid or maybe the swirling knocked the sliver out.

If it wasn't a sliver then it came burnt... because it tasted awful from the very first use. And I was very generouse with my direct dripping before the first hit. Would they send me burnt carto, is it possible to get burnt without being used? Did they send me a used carto?

I just don't know what to do, I don't want to fill my other one, that would be 6ml of juice stuck in these new tanks. I am sure I can get it out, but it looks like it would be messy and not fun. And after that horrible taste both my husband and myself are both a little gun shy to taste it again.

I did take 5cards advise and contact them (I always try to take 5cards advise) be interested to see what they say.

 

[Pokeygizmo]

Which carto are you using, Moorea? Even after filling a new one completely, some require a good bit of time before they are ready to vape -- the sleeve that covers the coils (and the extra filler that covers the sleeve in some cartos) seems to take much longer to saturate than just the filler. I sincerely doubt that they sent you a burnt or used carto.

I've been using cartos for over a year and I can still burn one on first draw -- sometimes my fault for rushing; sometimes the carto's fault for being a fail out of the box.

Properly cut, or not, it is probably a good idea to check first. I have only had one that I thought was cut through (by me) that I found a thin piece of metal still remaining that I had to remove. Perhaps you have a problem within the vacuum of the tanks that is not allowing the juice to fill properly? Or, it is still possible that it was a junk carto in the first place.

I am glad that you have taken 5c's advise and contacted them. They are the experts on their product and I hope that they can help you troubleshoot your way through this with little to-do.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

Just thinking out loud, moorea, but sounds like you vaped immediately after filling. If the liquid wasn't fully absorbed into the filler, perhaps you singed it. If you did, there's never any getting the off taste out of it.

I always give it a good 30 minutes of soaking time before vaping, Liquinator or no—Overkill, perhaps.

 

[Ruppy]

Just thinking out loud, moorea, but sounds like you vaped immediately after filling. If the liquid wasn't fully absorbed into the filler, perhaps you singed it. If you did, there's never any getting the off taste out of it.

I always give it a good 30 minutes of soaking time before vaping, Liquinator or no—Overkill, perhaps.

No ive found this is the best way to do it PI. Letting them sit like that will save you AT LEAST 1 out of 10 cartos. Sometimes alot more depending on the brand. Im pretty much only using fusions now and they require some soaking time. I never spin any more since I feel it squashes the filler and changes the vape and how much they hold.

Drip soak drip soak drip soak. Blow and dry= perfect vape (IMO)

 

[kwcharlie]

Haven’t tried my Fusions yet in the Liquinator, it’s just SO GOOD with the DC that came with it. Going to try punching a hole with a nail instead of my dremel tool but not looking forward to filling backward because of the Fusions lip, and did I say the Liquinator is doing so well with the DC that it’s not high on my list of things to do.
The 2.5 ohm DC’s don’t seem to work much better than the 1.5 ohm DC’s from and the G4’s are still just so-so, worth a try for mixing and trying new juice, have to set the voltage above 5, or wait till the improved ones come out and try them with the new CE3’s when they come out.
With all the new toys I ordered the Liquinator is the best, just can’t see it getting better for carto’s and Stormy’s CE2 Tank is the best thing ever made for CE2’s, does the job of getting better wicking with a larger clear tank with the minimal leaking.
Until the CE3 comes out I’m set, can’t see it get better than this
As any chemist will tell you, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate.

 

[5cardstud]

Whomever's fault it ends up being I hope you get it resolved. I know there's nothing more frustrating than not getting the vape your looking for. I think if you carefully remove the top you should be able to pour the juice out. That's how I fill and empty all my tanks. I would then put in your other carto, re-fill it with the same juice so no more wasted juice is involved, and then let it soak in for a couple hrs. That way all your bases are covered. I'm so sorry for this happening to you.

 

[kwcharlie]

seen these GotVapes PumpCart 1.5ml Smokey Clear Cart for 510 Attys - 5 Pack [gv-pumpcart] - $7.95 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more ? Maybe we don't need to wait for the VVPV

 

[5cardstud]

Haven’t tried my Fusions yet in the Liquinator, it’s just SO GOOD with the DC that came with it. Going to try punching a hole with a nail instead of my dremel tool but not looking forward to filling backward because of the Fusions lip, and did I say the Liquinator is doing so well with the DC that it’s not high on my list of things to do.
The 2.5 ohm DC’s don’t seem to work much better than the 1.5 ohm DC’s from and the G4’s are still just so-so, worth a try for mixing and trying new juice, have to set the voltage above 5, or wait till the improved ones come out and try them with the new CE3’s when they come out.
With all the new toys I ordered the Liquinator is the best, just can’t see it getting better for carto’s and Stormy’s CE2 Tank is the best thing ever made for CE2’s, does the job of getting better wicking with a larger clear tank with the minimal leaking.
Until the CE3 comes out I’m set, can’t see it get better than this
As any chemist will tell you, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate.

Well I got the Stormy to make the Fusion tank so I'll just put the E2 in the Map tank or something.

 

[kwcharlie]

Fusion tank? going to check. Ya the MAP tank works good, stormy's a little smaller but the MAP can take any CE2 you run through the tube cutter.
OK 5C, what's Stormy's fusion tank?

 

[moorea]

See... back to my fault. I did not wait like I did when I filled those DC cartomizers I tried a few weeks ago (and the DC's were my first and last attempt at a cartomizer, I waited for about an hour). It is kind of silly of my, but because it is sitting in a pool of luqiud, I assumed it would be saturated quicker.

To add to this misconception when I was watching their video on filling it, when the guy finishes filling the tank tank, he then says "If this is a new cartomizer, put a little bit of liquid right here on the top just to make sure that cartomizer is saturated... and this bad boy is ready to go"

I feel a little bit silly now, but when I hear this bad boy is ready to go.... I assume.... it is ready to go! What I guess he should of said was for the learning challenged like me was "drip a little on top to help the saturation process, wait 1 ro 2 hours and then this bad boy will be ready to go" He gave me the green light to fill, drip, ready... go... vape!

Oh well, not the most expensive mistake I have ever made. Now I just need to figure out how to get the liquid out or another cart in. 5cards idea sounds good in theory, but there is no to to take off... The cartmomizer servers as top and bottom, it slides into a whole the middle.

 

[kwcharlie]

OK, that makes sense moorea,
find an empty bottle hold it over top and slide it up and let it go into the bottle. put another carto in and refill. if not too full hold it horizontaland slide out and in the cartos IF liq level is below the holes when horizontal
had a chance to fill one right yet and try it?

 

[moorea]

OK, that makes sense moorea

I assume you mean it makes sense that I messed up... and should of waited!

It is too full, no way one is going out and then slipping in without a big mess. I will have to slide it down but not all the way out and spill into something. Just sounds like a mess waiting to happen.

I still can't help to wonder if the juice in there is ruined by that horrible taste!

 

[kwcharlie]

just the burned thing, i always check the last thing I worked when anything goes wrong, EASY to mess up unless you don't do anything. juice could be burned too, you burned the filler bad. try opening over a cup/bottle over the sink so if it goes everywhere there will be no loss and good practice. maybe should dump anyway

 

[Pokeygizmo]

If you have a good bit of juice in the tank and you just want to exchange cartos you can turn the tank upside down as if you were going to fill it. Pull the old carto 1/2 way out, put the new one in the hole on the bottom, mouth end first. Then turn the tank up right, pull out the old carto and finish pushing the new one up throught the top cap.

It can be done with a Fusion, but some of the steps are backwards because of it's sleeve. It works if you don't have a full tank and aren't dipping the battery end or mouth end into the liquid, just into the air inside the tank and slowly work it through as you turn it.

Very little mess, very little lost that way. If you want to salvage what's in the tank.

 

[kwcharlie]

What he said about pushing your burnt carto out with a new one, good method, just tried it.
OK, but with the fusion you'll end up inverting the tank which shouldn't matter, or am i missing something P? you grinding the slots in your fusions?

 

[5cardstud]

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KW I know your intentions are good but after getting burnt on the fluxomisers and the vortex plus I think one more I have vowed never to waste another penny at Gotvapes. The GOT me for the last time.


Ruppy, You deserve the Big thumbs up award and a gold star for the Fusion Tank. I made mine today out of the stormy tank and although it doesn't hold mass juice it is a vaping marvel. No leaks in any position and it made my beloved fusion all the better. Plus I like the size of it. That was the thing I didn't care for on the Map tank is it was huge. I absolutely love this thing.

 

[Pokeygizmo]

What he said about pushing your burnt carto out with a new one, good method, just tried it.
OK, but with the fusion you'll end up inverting the tank which shouldn't matter, or am i missing something P? you grinding the slots in your fusions?

Yes, with the Fusion you end up inverting the tank...so far it's worked for me but my tank's always been 1/2 full or less at the time. I don't think there's a top and bottom...is there???

It works if you're switching from a Fusion to a DC or 808 as well. You're just working the new carto from the top, battery end first, as you're pulling the Fusion out of the bottom.

Yes, kw, I slotted the Fusions myself. 2 opposing slots.

The DC's I received from Vaporescence all leaked through the airway as have the ones I've slotted as well. All with 2 slots. I've been reading elsewhere where other peeps have had similar issues with the DCs and have gone to single slotting and/or just tapping a single hole in the carto with a hammer and nail. What's your secret, KW? Please and thanks.

ETA: The airway leaking didn't happen first fill with the DCs -- only on subsequent re-fills. Odd.

 

[kwcharlie]

I know 5C, and I'm not a "big" fan boy for them but they are on the cutting edge of the stuff comming out of China. Should have the CR3 first, becouse they are part TX, cutting edge will result in a lot of mishaps. They are honest and trying to make $ while on that cutting edge, not easy.

 

[kwcharlie]

no secret, I'm just working with the DC they sent, haven't made anything else yet, don't think it's a secret that they arE great. My DC's havn't leaked yet i got from them.

 

[Pokeygizmo]

no secret, I'm just working with the DC they sent, haven't made anything else yet, don't think it's a secret that they arE great. My DC's havn't leaked yet i got from them.

Thanks, KW.

This Liquinator is great. The Fusions and the IKV Mega 808 are all working perfectly and I am perfectly OK with that.

Oh, and gratz to you, 5card! I am happy to see you are enjoying your Fusion/Stormy Tank! Yay!