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VAPORxJUNKIE

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Ok so im pretty new to the whole vaping thing and i decided to order some juice from here because everytime i look i see atleat 20 people viewing this sub-forum so im guessing this is quite the popular supplier. I ordered 3 bottles of juice and ALL of them tasted like perfume ! Im not sure if this is how all of the e-liquids should taste but if they do, i might just forget about the whole vape thing. But if anybody can help me fix this problem, or give me some advice, it would be gladly appreciated !:lol:
 

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Ok so im pretty new to the whole vaping thing and i decided to order some juice from here because everytime i look i see atleat 20 people viewing this sub-forum so im guessing this is quite the popular supplier. I ordered 3 bottles of juice and ALL of them tasted like perfume ! Im not sure if this is how all of the e-liquids should taste but if they do, i might just forget about the whole vape thing. But if anybody can help me fix this problem, or give me some advice, it would be gladly appreciated !:lol:

More details would be helpful - but please - do NOT give up! You can do this really! Taste is very subjective and what one person loves, another with loathe! You just need to find your sweet spot! Let us know what you are using and maybe we can help! ;)
 

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It might help if you list which flavors and which strength/mg of each you tried.

Being a relatively new V4L customer, I've only tried about 10 flavors, mostly cartos (sometimes the juice bottle and cartos have different ingredients but I read here that that is going to change). My experience has been as follows:

I too noticed this sickly sweet perfumery taste with several flavors, all 36mg. The worst was French Pipe, which was disappointing because I actually did like the underlying pipe flavor but the perfume just made it unvapeable for me. The same was true for cappuccino and coconut: disappointments because I liked the underlying coffee flavor. I noticed it a bit with pina colada but it seemed more tolerable for some reason (Steve also gave me a free 36mg 5ml pina colada bottle that does not have this problem at all and tastes really good).

I didn't notice it with mint and menthol but I didn't like though flavors much either, but never having been a menthol analog smoker I wanted to give it a try. If you like those flavor they are a good choice. So far, the flavor that I like the best that I didn't experience this sweet perfumey top note with was Kant: I probably would not have tried it but Steve threw this carto in as a freebie and I would buy it again. I also didn't notice it with banana which has a decent spicy banana flavor.

I have three new juice flavors to try, all in 36mg 20ml bottles so I hope none of them have this problem because that's a lot of juice to vape if you don't like that weird sweet perfume taste. So I think that the moral of the story is to try different flavors and see which work for you. It would also help to find out exactly how the new flavors are changing (since the cartos and ml bottle will now have the exact same juice).
 

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I typically only get the perfume taste when I overfill my carts. Try blowing them out a bit and see what happens.

FWIW, I experienced it with pre-filled cartos used as is/with no extra juice added. Also, it lasts until the carto is empty.

ETA: I LOVE your avitar, it cracks me up every time. Wasn't that a line from a movie? (btw, there is a small typo: 'the' instead of 'then.')
 
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FWIW, I experienced it with pre-filled cartos used as is/with no extra juice added. Also, it lasts until the carto is empty.

ETA: I LOVE your avitar, it cracks me up every time. Wasn't that a line from a movie? (btw, there is a small typo: 'the' instead of 'then.')


i didn't create the image so i'm not that inclined to fix it. I never noticed that though. Thanks!
 

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I believe the Tout is correct. There seems to be a manufacturing issue with some of the flavors. Make sure that you message Steve, Mark or Leaford with the flavors. They are compiling info on this problem and I know they will make it right with all of us who have this problem. Your carts are not supposed to taste this way. The V4L crew is adamant about customer service as well as producing a good product and have only recently become aware of the scope of this problem. Please don't feel that this is the norm with their product as it is not. V4L is a great company and want you to be happy with their products and service.
 

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I believe the Tout is correct. There seems to be a manufacturing issue with some of the flavors. Make sure that you message Steve, Mark or Leaford with the flavors. They are compiling info on this problem and I know they will make it right with all of us who have this problem. Your carts are not supposed to taste this way. The V4L crew is adamant about customer service as well as producing a good product and have only recently become aware of the scope of this problem. Please don't feel that this is the norm with their product as it is not. V4L is a great company and want you to be happy with their products and service.

And the other thing too is that everyone's tastes are different. I use the Pink Lemonade, for example, all the time and I really like the flavor, and I've heard from many people that love it as well. There are other flavors that I don't care for that are some of our best sellers. Everyone's taste is different. But if there is a problem, I'm sure we will get to the bottom of it, and do right by all of our customers.
 

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I'm having the same issue with the juice I got from 4VL. It's my first time ordering and my apple, menthol, pineapple and Pina Colada juices have an awful perfumey flavor. With this being my first order from them I just figured that was how their juice tastes and it was all small sizes but the menthol.

Their grape on the other hand was wonderful and the free coconut they sent me was great too.

They were all low or 0 nicotine flavors also so maybe that is the problem?
 
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And the other thing too is that everyone's tastes are different. I use the Pink Lemonade, for example, all the time and I really like the flavor, and I've heard from many people that love it as well. There are other flavors that I don't care for that are some of our best sellers. Everyone's taste is different. But if there is a problem, I'm sure we will get to the bottom of it, and do right by all of our customers.

yeah taste is a subjective thing. China e-liquids are commonly accused of tasting "perfumy"..and in fact they use a "food perfume" flavor in several of the flavors..presumably in an attempt to get the flavor to pop..and in fact you can purchase "unflavored" in ranges from "no perfume" to "extra perfume".

I've never noticed it, but then i didn't go looking for it. That's not to say it's not there. I've had no problem with it, flavors that I did not like, I felt I did not like on other grounds LOL!

All this talk is makin me get the urge to make an order...ARGH! BBL, gotta go order :/ Just saw orange juice on clearance..cant pass that up been meaning to try it.
 

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Mark you might want to take a look at the other thread titled "Pink Lemonade Yuck." From what I'm reading many are finding the flavor in a lot of different carts and eliquids. Many of which I have enjoyed in the past with no perfume flavor. I'm pretty sure this is a problem and not a matter of tastes. Some are getting the perfume taste in orders they have tried in the past that didn't taste this way. From what I tasted in the lemonade carts I just got in I would notice this yucky taste in any cart that it was in. It wouldnt matter the flavor. You might want to do a taste test yourself until you taste this perfume flavor. I'm sure you will know it when you taste it. It is unforgettable and gross. I really enjoy your carts, service and products but if I get this perfume flavor I cant stand it or use it. My lemonade carts were disgusting and disappointing and will not be consumed or traded to others. I just couldn't feel right trading them to anyone else. Not trying to be a pain, hopefully I am helping you to see a problem with the product and correct it. I want V4L to grow and prosper.
 

calla2

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And the other thing too is that everyone's tastes are different. I use the Pink Lemonade, for example, all the time and I really like the flavor, and I've heard from many people that love it as well. There are other flavors that I don't care for that are some of our best sellers. Everyone's taste is different. But if there is a problem, I'm sure we will get to the bottom of it, and do right by all of our customers.

I'm inclined to think that the sickly sweet perfume taste is separate from individual taste preference for flavors. I had this problem with the pina colada carto but not with the pina colada 5ml juice bottle. I have 3 flavors of V4L juice bottles that I've yet to try, but so far I've only come across that vile taste on top of true flavors in some of the cartos. So that made me wonder if the problem was with the juice in the cartos since I read somewhere in this forum that the juice in the bottles and the cartos are not the same. BTW, I actually like most of the flavors underneath that perfume... it's weird, like vaping two flavors that have been mixed together and liking one flavor but not the other.
 

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ETA: LastOulaw posted while I was typing. I see that the problem may not just be with the cartos. Guess I'm going to have to rinse out some cartos so that I can try my three new bottles of 20ml juice.

Like I posted in the other thread, my grape cartos are really perfumey. Luckily, Steve/Mark threw in a grape refill bottle in my order. I'm going to rinse out a carto and refill to see if the perfumey flavor is prevalent in the juice bottle as well.
 

mephisto69

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Like I posted in the other thread, my grape cartos are really perfumey. Luckily, Steve/Mark threw in a grape refill bottle in my order. I'm going to rinse out a carto and refill to see if the perfumey flavor is prevalent in the juice bottle as well.

Yeah, try that... I LOVE the grape, and my carts and the juice I recieved from them was good, no perfume taste at all, unlike the Strawberry juice or the Pink Lemonade carts I got...
 

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Like I posted in the other thread, my grape cartos are really perfumey. Luckily, Steve/Mark threw in a grape refill bottle in my order. I'm going to rinse out a carto and refill to see if the perfumey flavor is prevalent in the juice bottle as well.

Also had this problem w/ my grape 18mg carts. Liquid tasted fine.
 
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