Chest Burn Issues

[Fallynn Knivez]

In leau of the last post... figure it wouldnt hurt to post these, maybe someone may spot something *shrugs*

This is the last build i had when my chest started hurting. My original post was made JUST after building my kayfun to replace this. Sorry i am not the best photographer, and the pics where the wick is out i only rinsed it with water if there are any wick strands left, that is why.

 

[Caterpiller]

@Fallynn Knivez

You have way too much wicking material in that picture.

I've no idea if that's related to the issues you're having with your chest, but I would expect that build to spit liquid into your month and be an unpleasant vape.

 

[AndriaD]

I know, i know... I will, just for you, stop rebuilding so often. I will dry burn, clean and rewick until my coils pop =) tbh, if anything, this post resulted in this "duh" realization when i read you saying that it would at least cut down how often it happens if nothing else.

Well I completely understand being curious about why the problem is happening -- I'm that way, too; if something isn't working right, I always want to know why! But since it seems to happen no matter what the juice or the particular atty... I'm thinking it really might not be related to vaping at all, OR, as in the case of the reflux problem, might be something not caused by vaping but that vaping is making worse. So it would seem the better part of wisdom that if you have a coil that's working really well, not to trash it and throw the dice on the next one being equally wonderful. Obviously if the coil breaks or just isn't producing a good vape, then it needs to be replaced, but replacing one that's working great.... just a dice throw with no good reason.

I forget if you mentioned, but what are you using for wicking? It could be a simple matter, like using too much wick, getting a slightly dryish hit, etc. Also the tip about cleaning the wire really well might be a factor. And last but not least... maybe not inhaling so deeply, and/or doing MtL inhales, to kinda like your mouth "filter" it a bit before you try inhaling to your lungs. Because it might not be the vape, but some issue in your lungs, which only flares up sporadically.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

@Fallynn Knivez

You have way too much wicking material in that picture.

I've no idea if that's related to the issues you're having with your chest, but I would expect that build to spit liquid into your month and be an unpleasant vape.

I was thinking that too; nice looking coil, but the wick is just so much, it's all over the place! Not entirely sure what atty that is, it looks a great deal like a kayfun, and for those, my wicks basically *point* straight down at the juice channel, just the tip of the wick resting on the little ledge above the juice channel, not overflowing that ledge, so it doesn't block the juice channel.

Andria

 

[Hans Wermhat]

they are all pretty high airflow pieces

Not really. I don't know about the freakshow, but the rest of those aren't very airy. At al. The plume veil is like sucking through a coffee straw when compared to some RDA's.

 

[NOVA jon]

Give cotton bacon a try, seems to have stopped the problems I was encountering with the pads and balls!!!!

 

[Cacique]

An example for some more open RDAs; I like the Mutation X line, but the Mx4 can leak quite a lot if you don't build it quite right. I also have an Airek clone that's really airy. You should be able to find these for under $30 and cheaper online. I wouldn't bother going to a vape shop to get wick, you're better off doing some reading online and ordering online. You've tried cotton so if you want to try something completely different, I'd try some Rayon. The most popular is Cellucotton Rayon which you can get in some big boxes at Sally's beauty supply. Lots of us use it here, so I'm sure someone would be willing to send you a little sample if you want. I myself have a huge box and don't mind sending you a piece if you're in the US.

 

[crxess]

TFV4 Deck and likely not to much wicking.
If the wick slips through smoothly.................the mass is needed to avoid flooding from HUGE channels.

To Much = Dry hits/ burnt wicks

YMMV

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

How much water are you drinking?? Start having a glass in the morning when you wake up before you have anything else and another before you brush your teeth before bed...

Glycerin is a moisturizer it works by pulling liquids to the surface from surrounding tissue, if there is little to none to pull it may be causing your problems, you may be associating the problem with rebuilding when it could be entirely a different issue. It's one of the common issues constantly overlooked by vapers. If you are constantly getting juice in your mouth it actually makes sense.

I recently had a friend think he had an allergy to pg because some of the symptoms looked the same, it turns out he has an allergy to nickel instead.

 

[Fallynn Knivez]

hey all, so i decided today to test the wicking theory... I hadnt pulled the coil from the Lemo 2 yet, so i cleaned it up and re-wicked it (as you can see with less wicking). This is still an 0.86 build (will keep it between 7watts and 13 for the day, so still low), with the schwartz darkside juice (not the same juice from the tank, its fresh) i was using with it a couple days ago, so in essence its just less wicking. Will vape on it and see if it changes anything. Plus its a time stamp on starting with it. Will update later.

 

[sparkky1]

3mg/mL - 36mg/mL Nicotine Base - Nude Nicotine

 

[Ryedan]

In leau of the last post... figure it wouldnt hurt to post these, maybe someone may spot something *shrugs*

This is the last build i had when my chest started hurting. My original post was made JUST after building my kayfun to replace this. Sorry i am not the best photographer, and the pics where the wick is out i only rinsed it with water if there are any wick strands left, that is why.

Pics are always a good idea

I see what looks like a hot spot on the wire, circled it here:

If that happened to the wire while you were setting up the coil, it's fine. If that happens while you're vaping, it can degrade juice.

Or it could just be the the light ... But I thought I would mention it

 

[crxess]

hey all, so i decided today to test the wicking theory... I hadnt pulled the coil from the Lemo 2 yet, so i cleaned it up and re-wicked it (as you can see with less wicking). This is still an 0.86 build (will keep it between 7watts and 13 for the day, so still low), with the schwartz darkside juice (not the same juice from the tank, its fresh) i was using with it a couple days ago, so in essence its just less wicking. Will vape on it and see if it changes anything. Plus its a time stamp on starting with it. Will update later.

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Just wondering how that re-wick is going to hold against slow flooding. May be okay but, to me at least, it looks shy of the channels/deck.
With the wattage drop, it seems like going from one extreme to the opposite.

 

[Gothicmace59]

Just my two cents....but every so often I get this when vaping strawberry type juices....it is more of an acid reflux event...but causes burning and tightness which is well the reflux part. I found that increasing my water intake helps a bunch.

 

[Fallynn Knivez]

Just wondering how that re-wick is going to hold against slow flooding. May be okay but, to me at least, it looks shy of the channels/deck.
With the wattage drop, it seems like going from one extreme to the opposite.

At this point its fine. I have not noticed any juice in the mouth, nor has it flooded at all. Been keeping it at 7watts... I did notice it seems a little less flavorful then it was (what a difference no juice in the mouth makes) It is actually touching the deck, just not all the way across.

Pics are always a good idea

I see what looks like a hot spot on the wire, circled it here:

I actually believe that was during the first fire while building (before wicking) tryin to get hotspots out. (Cant remember if it was the Lemo or Kayfun build that got hot on one leg)

Update: it may be psychosomatic but i do have a slight feeling in the chest tho. Still to early to tell if its in my head or not.

Also, was directed to a Pbusardo video about the ipv and its off voltages at lower watts. Curious if that may have something to do with it at all. Just havent figured out how this could be a problem SOMETIMES and not all the time at the low watts.

If your intersted its at about 20:21 of

 

[snipeslayer]

I do hope that you get your issue resolved soon as I am sure this is bothersome at the very least. I saw something posted about this already, but have you been evaluated recently for any cardiac/respiratory disease by a doctor? You did mention that you smoked for a period of time prior to vaping (as we all did) and unfortunately there are many nasty side effects that can be directly related to it.

On another note, could it be possible that you increase the amount you vape on the second or third day after the 'break in' period? I would use the suggestions here about eliminating things to attempt to find a causative factor until you can get a doctors appointment - this might be a good time for a check up to make sure there is not a more sinister issue at hand here.

Best of luck and keep us posted.

 

[Nimaz]

I found your issue a bit puzzling as it fits a pattern in which the coil built could be just coincidental. As suggested above, a reaction to the built up gunk on the coil sounds plausible. These symptoms are also very typical during smoking cessation and can last quite awhile... I haven't found a straight response to why this is happening. Can it happens when the vaping settings are changed? I feel sometime the same way after a pushy endurance run but these symptoms disappear quickly after the phlegm stuck in my lungs clears out and it's becoming less frequent the further I'm navigating away from smoking.

 

[Fallynn Knivez]

I saw something posted about this already, but have you been evaluated recently for any cardiac/respiratory disease by a doctor?

Yeah, shipyards are pretty hardcore about respiratory, physical stress, and blood and everything. Passed everything with flying colors as of October.

I hope i get it figured out as well, it is annoying but at this point a little concerning as well. I wrote a few juice companies hoping maybe i could get to see some ingredients, maybe see if i can 1 by 1 rule out ingredients, will see how that goes... I know what i would think if some random person asked me for my secret recipe lol... trying all avenues.

 

[AndriaD]

I found your issue a bit puzzling as it fits a pattern in which the coil built could be just coincidental. As suggested above, a reaction to the built up gunk on the coil sounds plausible. These symptoms are also very typical during smoking cessation and can last quite awhile... I haven't found a straight response to why this is happening. Can it happens when the vaping settings are changed? I feel sometime the same way after a pushy endurance run but these symptoms disappear quickly after the phlegm stuck in my lungs clears out and it's becoming less frequent the further I'm navigating away from smoking.

Yes, I've experienced a worsening of my asthma control, and I wonder if it's not just a greatly magnified (because of the asthma) healing process, from nearly 4 decades of smoking. I dunno; lately it has seemed improved, with occasional bouts of being more breathless than I really ought to be, but those seem to be growing less severe and less frequent, as time goes by without smoking. Maybe it just takes longer to get over the smoking damage, if you have some sort of dysfunction in how the lungs work. I really hope that ultimately I'll get back to good equilibrium and control though, it's really a pain, being out of breath all the time. I feel like that kid in the wheelchair in Malcolm in the Middle - that - little - gasp -- every- few - words.

Andria

 

[Fallynn Knivez]

I found your issue a bit puzzling as it fits a pattern in which the coil built could be just coincidental. As suggested above, a reaction to the built up gunk on the coil sounds plausible. These symptoms are also very typical during smoking cessation and can last quite awhile... I haven't found a straight response to why this is happening. Can it happens when the vaping settings are changed? I feel sometime the same way after a pushy endurance run but these symptoms disappear quickly after the phlegm stuck in my lungs clears out and it's becoming less frequent the further I'm navigating away from smoking.

The gunk thing could be it, im not really ruling anything out at this point, some things just seem less likely then others. The gunk thing mainly because its day one or two of using the new build, just doesnt seem it would be gunked up that fast, but then again with the excess juice issue.

I quit smoking a long time ago, and had some issues at first, but they cleared up a week or two into vaping. The settings and stuff i am not changing, usually just toss it on the 7watt ipv and vape like usual, just occasionally my chest doesnt like it.

You are pretty close with the running thing, that is sort of how it feels, if my out of shape ... runs and my chest starts hurting/burning, i would compare it more towards a chest cold, congestion, bronchitis type burn though, and it clears up fast once i change the build, the thing thats getting me is if all i am doing is rebuilding, not changing juices or settings, then why does it go away?