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sparkky1

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The gunk thing could be it, im not really ruling anything out at this point, some things just seem less likely then others. The gunk thing mainly because its day one or two of using the new build, just doesnt seem it would be gunked up that fast, but then again with the excess juice issue.

I quit smoking a long time ago, and had some issues at first, but they cleared up a week or two into vaping. The settings and stuff i am not changing, usually just toss it on the 7watt ipv and vape like usual, just occasionally my chest doesnt like it.

You are pretty close with the running thing, that is sort of how it feels, if my out of shape ... runs and my chest starts hurting/burning, i would compare it more towards a chest cold, congestion, bronchitis type burn though, and it clears up fast once i change the build, the thing thats getting me is if all i am doing is rebuilding, not changing juices or settings, then why does it go away?

That's how mild lung irritants start, they come and go, I battled with it till I started DIY juice and lowered my flavoring %, your lungs aren't telling you to change your coil / wick, you could even possibly be forming an allergy to pg or vg and not even realize it ..................
 

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Yes, I've experienced a worsening of my asthma control, and I wonder if it's not just a greatly magnified (because of the asthma) healing process, from nearly 4 decades of smoking. I dunno; lately it has seemed improved, with occasional bouts of being more breathless than I really ought to be, but those seem to be growing less severe and less frequent, as time goes by without smoking. Maybe it just takes longer to get over the smoking damage, if you have some sort of dysfunction in how the lungs work. I really hope that ultimately I'll get back to good equilibrium and control though, it's really a pain, being out of breath all the time. I feel like that kid in the wheelchair in Malcolm in the Middle - that - little - gasp -- every- few - words. :facepalm:

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Again, I feel you! Many of us are taking simple things like breathing for granted and forget to be thankful for these gifts. My chest tight up nervously, when I see a love one out of breath during some of these episodes. I experienced these myself, for different reasons than chronic inflammation of the respiratory track but I've noticed very significant improvements since I stopped smoking and working on my breathing through running and swimming, just one step after another, one back, two further. Yes, I can feel that my lungs are healing at least partially but it takes me a great deal of work and faith to re-build a balanced rhythm, eventual muscles that I'm totally ignorant about... I learned from many other threads elsewhere that chess tightness, shortness of breath, chest burning sensation are systematic physiological responses in smoking cessation. Even non-smokers feel the same way during respiratory stresses such as during running, biking especially when out of shape, but it gets better with consistent training. It makes sense that these symptoms result from lung healing, restructuring and adjustment processes. I don't think that anyone know in depth how this is happening except few elements such as the return of cilia for instance. I truly hope that you will improve further in getting an good respiratory rhythm, so you can focus your battle in tackling down the issue of asthma without other interference.
 
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Quick Update: So i got through 2/3rds of a tank, refilled it, and i its not the wicking directly that is the cause. I'm not letting it get bad this time since i can recognize it now, and at this moment switched from the lemo back to my kayfun, tomorrow i will keep it as is, dry burn, re-wick and try it with a different ejuice and see if that doesnt fix it. So what i do know is whatever is going on, is for sure going on in this particular build and is not directly the wicking.

It starts as an uncomfortable-ish feeling in the center of the chest when i take deep breaths, just now it was standard breaths and felt like it hurt along the bottom of my lungs from one side to the other of my chest. If i keep going it becomes my whole chest and gets burning, and slightly restrictive feeling.

If i am still awake i will update when it clears up just to give you all an idea of time frame to clear up.

On the plus side, i think i can start to get the juice in the mouth wicking issue under control, and try to figure out why i dry burn at higher wattages (this is second to the task at hand though, now that its not part of the cause).

Also, If your wondering; the Lemo did not flood at all, hit like a champ, and did not spit juice into my mouth or dry hit (even with that tiny wicking, which was trully a shock to me, was worried about flooding tbh)
 

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That's how mild lung irritants start, they come and go, I battled with it till I started DIY juice and lowered my flavoring %, your lungs aren't telling you to change your coil / wick, you could even possibly be forming an allergy to pg or vg and not even realize it ..................
First off, love your avatar... sent me on an hour long google image session, first to verify that was who i thought it was, then more pics of him vaping, then just all the celebs pictured vaping...

I feel ya, i have looked at the DIY stuff, and was actually interested in starting for a time but had no real idea how to start. Sure i looked at guides but when they all vary so greatly all you can get is a general idea to start from, would still love to do my own juices *shrugs*

I am sort of starting to think this is me reacting to juice, be it allergy or whatever. Will have a better idea when i re-wick this tank tomorrow and start over with a different juice.
 

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It starts as an uncomfortable-ish feeling in the center of the chest when i take deep breaths, just now it was standard breaths and felt like it hurt along the bottom of my lungs from one side to the other of my chest. If i keep going it becomes my whole chest and gets burning, and slightly restrictive feeling.

You're putting your lungs through some real stress... Something is definitively irritating your lungs, or maybe a nerves pain. Take it easy! I use the same Kayfun, in TC though but if I recall properly, after a dry burn, a Kanthal coil goes straight to the trash, unvapable to my taste.
 
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I actually believe that was during the first fire while building (before wicking) tryin to get hotspots out. (Cant remember if it was the Lemo or Kayfun build that got hot on one leg)

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Quick Update: So i got through 2/3rds of a tank, refilled it, and i its not the wicking directly that is the cause. I'm not letting it get bad this time since i can recognize it now, and at this moment switched from the lemo back to my kayfun, tomorrow i will keep it as is, dry burn, re-wick and try it with a different ejuice and see if that doesnt fix it.

The thing is if you dry burn, re-wick and try it with a different ejuice you won't know which of these things, or which combination of them is responsible if there is a change afterwords. Also, there might be something else that's changing that you're not looking at.

I was involved in plastic molding for decades. That process involves a bunch of interrelated variables. For example if you reduce screw back pressure and increase barrel temperature, they pretty much cancel out and nothing significant changes. OTOH if you change one of them at a time you'll see a change in the plastic part. OTOH, if your raw plastic changes in some way between molding trials and you miss that change, that can mask any change you've made to the process yourself.

Because of these complexities the plastic molding industry has become quite scientific the last couple of decades. You don't need to do that, but a few basic troubleshooting concepts could help. Here are a few that have helped me over the years.

1) Make one change at a time. If the change affects things, you know what caused the change. Yes, this is a boring way to troubleshoot things and it takes longer, but it can really help when the problem isn't obvious.

2) If you didn't knowingly make a change to the process and the process changes, something that you're not watching (not aware of) changed. Then all you need to do is figure out what changed but that can be difficult.

3) If you can't figure out what is changing and #1 doesn't help, you can try eliminating everything non-essential and then introduce one thing at a time until a problem happens. Really helpful for computer problems, but also for general problem solving.

Item #1 is really powerful and what I always do first when I want to troubleshoot something that doesn't have an obvious solution. Sometimes a problem can be caused by multiple things working together, so neither variable causes it by itself, it's two (or more :shock:) working together. Those are a lot tougher to figure out.

You've tried a bunch of things so far and nothing has worked for you. If I got really stumped with my vape, I would go back to one atty, one mod, one juice, one build, one power level and move forward slowly from there. I don't think you're quite there yet, but a more diciplined approach could well help :)
 

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First off, love your avatar... sent me on an hour long google image session, first to verify that was who i thought it was, then more pics of him vaping, then just all the celebs pictured vaping...

I feel ya, i have looked at the DIY stuff, and was actually interested in starting for a time but had no real idea how to start. Sure i looked at guides but when they all vary so greatly all you can get is a general idea to start from, would still love to do my own juices *shrugs*

I am sort of starting to think this is me reacting to juice, be it allergy or whatever. Will have a better idea when i re-wick this tank tomorrow and start over with a different juice.

Here's a cheap start to DIY and possibly helping with what ails you, 3mg/mL - 36mg/mL Nicotine Base - Nude Nicotine that and a check up with a pulmonologist specialist just to be on the safe side, both of these are cheap insurance for a happy life ..............
 
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Fallynn Knivez

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Hey guys, so yeah, last night i was cleared up before sleep. I just used my Kayfun today, so im feeling fine, will probably switch back to the trial build here (with the same kind of juice thats in my kayfun) and give it another go to see if its juice related.

Here's a cheap start to DIY and possibly helping with what ails you, 3mg/mL - 36mg/mL Nicotine Base - Nude Nicotine that and a check up with a pulmonologist specialist just to be on the safe side, both of these are cheap insurance for a happy life ..............
Thanks a bunch for that, i saw it linked earlier in the post but forgot to look into it. I think im going to drop the $30 on that average beginner kit and play around with it, figure out the basics and try different VG/PG and Concentrate ratios to get a better idea of if i want to, and what to get... Maybe its about time i start the DIY thing, i have no excuse other then laziness tbh.

If it doesnt help with the issues im having at least i will have full control over it all, and what flavor i want *shrugs*
 
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