Chicago Tribune 01/06/14 editorial: The buzz about e-cigarettes

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Overall a good article.

I wish there was a better pool of research for these article.
I hate the rehash of disproven research.

I like a comment left at the end of the article:


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Before mentioning an outdated 2009 FDA study, maybe the author should get their facts straight. First of all, only 6 out of 18 samples (not "more than half") were reported to have carcinogenic "tobacco-specific nitrosamines." What the study failed to mention, was the levels of these chemicals. Analysis done a week later by Dr. Michael Siegel, Professor in the Department of Community Health Sciences, Boston University School of Public Health, discovered that the TSNAs were at virtually undetectable levels (under 8.2 nanograms). As a reference, the average person is exposed to 1 microgram of nitrosamines per day from the environment. That's 1000 nanograms!

The author also mentioned trace amounts of diethylene glycol found in one sample. It’s never been discovered in any other study since, and at the amount discovered (less than 1%) it would take 750,000 e-cigs to receive a lethal dose.

This study has been proven (time-and-time again) to be misleading and blatantly inaccurate, yet it continues to be mentioned by the media and other new sources. People should do their research before writing (or reading) stories like this. Find a complete list of the most up-to-date studies on e-cigs here: E-Cigarette Studies & Research | Cig Buyer.com

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Overall a good article.

I wish there was a better pool of research for these article.
I hate the rehash of disproven research.

I like a comment left at the end of the article:


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Before mentioning an outdated 2009 FDA study, maybe the author should get their facts straight. First of all, only 6 out of 18 samples (not "more than half") were reported to have carcinogenic "tobacco-specific nitrosamines." What the study failed to mention, was the levels of these chemicals. Analysis done a week later by Dr. Michael Siegel, Professor in the Department of Community Health Sciences, Boston University School of Public Health, discovered that the TSNAs were at virtually undetectable levels (under 8.2 nanograms). As a reference, the average person is exposed to 1 microgram of nitrosamines per day from the environment. That's 1000 nanograms!

The author also mentioned trace amounts of diethylene glycol found in one sample. It’s never been discovered in any other study since, and at the amount discovered (less than 1%) it would take 750,000 e-cigs to receive a lethal dose.

This study has been proven (time-and-time again) to be misleading and blatantly inaccurate, yet it continues to be mentioned by the media and other new sources. People should do their research before writing (or reading) stories like this. Find a complete list of the most up-to-date studies on e-cigs here: E-Cigarette Studies & Research | Cig Buyer.com

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Overall a good article.




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Before mentioning an outdated 2009 FDA study, maybe the author should get their facts straight. First of all, only 6 out of 18 samples (not "more than half") were reported to have carcinogenic "tobacco-specific nitrosamines." What the study failed to mention, was the levels of these chemicals. Analysis done a week later by Dr. Michael Siegel, Professor in the Department of Community Health Sciences, Boston University School of Public Health, discovered that the TSNAs were at virtually undetectable levels (under 8.2 nanograms). As a reference, the average person is exposed to 1 microgram of nitrosamines per day from the environment. That's 1000 nanograms!

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What resounds more with me is the fact that an FDA-approved nicotine patch contains an equivalent quantity of these "carcinogens". The word "carcinogen" cannot be found in the FDA's lab report. The word was selected by those putting the "spin" on the results to strike fear in the hearts of the reader. Keep in mind that both companies were the plaintiffs in a law suit against the FDA at the time of the press announcement. Coincidence? Not!

The truth-twisters knew that most people don't know that "carcinogen" just means a substance that could, under the right circumstances, be associated with cancer. Most people believe that "carcinogen" refers to something that is proven to cause cancer under any and all circumstances, even at the tiniest trace levels.
 

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This is a very important editorial, as the Chicago Tribune is the largest and most influential newspaper in Chicago, and City Council members read these editorials daily. This editorial should make it make it much more difficult for Mayor Emanual's proposed e-cig usage ban to get enacted.
 

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What resounds more with me is the fact that an FDA-approved nicotine patch contains an equivalent quantity of these "carcinogens". The word "carcinogen" cannot be found in the FDA's lab report. The word was selected by those putting the "spin" on the results to strike fear in the hearts of the reader. Keep in mind that both companies were the plaintiffs in a law suit against the FDA at the time of the press announcement. Coincidence? Not!

The truth-twisters knew that most people don't know that "carcinogen" just means a substance that could, under the right circumstances, be associated with cancer. Most people believe that "carcinogen" refers to something that is proven to cause cancer under any and all circumstances, even at the tiniest trace levels.

But, because of a Denmark study, about patches/gum & pg women, the EPA deemed it worthy for the list. :(
http://www.oal.ca.gov/res/docs/pdf/notice/45z-2013.pdf

Wiki discusses the study, right before the Chemistry section Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm confused.
 

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But, because of a Denmark study, about patches/gum & pg women, the EPA deemed it worthy for the list. :(
http://www.oal.ca.gov/res/docs/pdf/notice/45z-2013.pdf

Wiki discusses the study, right before the Chemistry section Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm confused.

Hey, there is no explaining the way that the rulers in California think. They also think that carbon dioxide is a harmful substance. Just ask the plants whether getting rid of CO2 is a good idea...
 

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This is a very important editorial, as the Chicago Tribune is the largest and most influential newspaper in Chicago, and City Council members read these editorials daily. This editorial should make it make it much more difficult for Mayor Emanual's proposed e-cig usage ban to get enacted.

Yes. The Tribune editorials tend, more often than not, to be good indicators or predictors in local politics. Hopefully that will hold true here.
 

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Hey, there is no explaining the way that the rulers in California think. They also think that carbon dioxide is a harmful substance. Just ask the plants whether getting rid of CO2 is a good idea...

Very true lol!
Another funny aspect? Unless the Dosage is extremely, ridiculously high, (like in that one mice study, & perhaps in an accidental BP over dosage by BP technicians), it would be next to impossible to achieve scarey results, as the EPA claims, in such a short of time. With that said, I googled Denmark nuclear accidents, & lo & behold, 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Plus, of course there are other accidents & those helping clean up other accidents, plus the weather carrying accidents...
 
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