Child tobacco pickers get sick- Fox News

[Stric9]

maybe its because you likely werent malnourished, living in a third world hole? diet and living conditions can mean a lot.

Those kids are probably living in a slum that was built in between a trash dump and a polluted river. Working in a field that's being fertilized and watered with no telling what. But it's the dreaded "green tobacco illness" that Fox news fingers as a topic of discussion.

Has any of our posters ever visited (or worked) in a third world country??

Respects

 

[ladyraj]

From the article:..."the report said workers absorb up to 54 milligrams a day of dissolved nicotine through their skin."

Now last time I checked on this forum the fatal dose of nicotine poisoning was 60 milligrams for a 140 lb man. Just how big are these undernourished children?

 

[Vaporista]

Those kids are probably living in a slum that was built in between a trash dump and a polluted river. Working in a field that's being fertilized and watered with no telling what. But it's the dreaded "green tobacco illness" that Fox news fingers as a topic of discussion.

Has any of our posters ever visited (or worked) in a third world country??

Respects

Did someone ask?I live in one.

 

[lela82]

Stric9:

Totally OT, I just wanted to say hi to a local e cig user! I work in Fort Mill, and live very close!

 

[breno]

This ought to stand out the most:

"Tobacco is an important cash crop in Malawi, generating 75 percent of foreign exchange income. More than 80 percent of Malawians are directly or indirectly employed by the tobacco industry..."

EDIT: Actually the whole thing did stand out. And the argument here is that these children would die from starvation without the money generated from this. My counter-argument would be .... how about real farms and not tobacco and everyone gets food without having children or adults getting sick? Lol

Tobaco will be more profitable because it's high taxation.

 

[Moonflame]

My question is, if they have done no testing how can they say how much nicotine they are absorbing? I live in what used to be a mostly tobacco farming area. Most of the farmers around here stopped farming tobacco because so much of it was being bought in from other places where the cig companies could get it cheaper and they weren't able to compete. Pulling tobacco (you don't pick tobacco, you pull it) was how most of the guys I knew earned their money. In the mid 80's the farmers around here paid about $15 an hour for the job, because it was hot, nasty, dirty work. I never knew anyone to get sick from it though. My brother would come home covered with tar and oil, but I never heard him complain about anything other than how hot it was. And he's a complainer, you should here him if he gets a cold, so if he'd have had issues from the nicotine I would have heard about it. It's way more likely that it is a result of the pesticides they are using without the rules we have here about how much is used, how to apply it, and how long you have to wait after applying before going back into the fields.

 

[googled]

It's Fox News, it has to be fair and balanced .

By the way, do we even know where the tobacco comes from that supplies the nicotine for our juice?

 

[brownbrown4]

This ought to stand out the most:

"Tobacco is an important cash crop in Malawi, generating 75 percent of foreign exchange income. More than 80 percent of Malawians are directly or indirectly employed by the tobacco industry..."

EDIT: Actually the whole thing did stand out. And the argument here is that these children would die from starvation without the money generated from this. My counter-argument would be .... how about real farms and not tobacco and everyone gets food without having children or adults getting sick? Lol

bravo, but then their government wouldnt get any money. bigger $ in tobacco, than in corn, rice, and wheat.
line the pockets before you feed your people.... its the way of the world my friend

 

[brownbrown4]

It's Fox News, it has to be fair and balanced .

By the way, do we even know where the tobacco comes from that supplies the nicotine for our juice?

a lab........

 

[Stric9]

Stric9:

Totally OT, I just wanted to say hi to a local e cig user! I work in Fort Mill, and live very close!

Oh Yeah!! Another e cig user in the QC! There's a little group that QueenInNC gets together (great bunch).... You stop in sometime.

And MoonFlame - That's exactly how I came to "work" in tobacco. The same as your brother. South Georgia had a large area that was suitable for tobacco. Except the going rate for a "field hand" was about $20.00 a day back in the mid 70's. We usta say "cropped" it. But tobacco hasn't been raised there in several years now...(that area is pretty much a ghost town these days)

Last but not least Googled - I've read that the nic in most of the juice is synthetic and is not derived from tobacco at all.

Respects

 

[dc2k08]

In pics

I doubt the tobacco that is harvested for our nicotine is harvested any less cruelly

 

[TropicalBob]

You really want to know where some of the nicotine comes from? This is not new; it was posted long ago, so I'll post it again. Pay no attention to the product name on this Web page, but do read the description and look at the photograph. These are E-Cig carts. The company is E-Cig. And the country of origin is one with lots of tobacco -- all of it off limits in any form to Americans.

Hts Hongta Switzerland Co., Ltd.

Not good.

 

[I am Nico]

What about the kids in china filling in the nicotine juice in the carts?? hmm?? lol., jp jp ...

 

[ladyraj]

Hey TBob...what is "not good" about this group...do you have some insider knowledge...please tell??? Are they a dangerous group? I'm really curious! Please Sir, may I have some more...info?

I know about all those dead cats who were too curious but....

 

[yyarkoon]

Have to disagree on the never getting sick from working in tobacco. As a kid that grew up on a farm we raised 5 acres of tobacco along with corn & second planting soybeans. For those of you that dont know as a farm kid you are going to work from bout age 10 on its just what ya do. I got sick a few times from cutting & spiking not to mention being on the bottom handing it up to hang in the barn which sucks lol. But its just like anything when we all first starting smoking we had to work at it to be cool but we built up a tolerance & we didnt feel as sick after a few years working in the fields i never felt sick again so does it happen? Sure it does but gotta look at the age & never been exposed to it same thing if ya decided to just kill a bottle of pure grain for ya first drinking experience yea that will work well lol. But i will tell ya this i figured out quickly that there sure as hell gotta be a better way 2 make money than farming so made me but my ... to get my degrees, so it all turned out well, just a bit of food for though on the subject.

 

[I am Nico]

i remember my 1st nicotine buzz... i was at pier39 and my friend passed me a newport...that was the craziest rush ever... i felt extremely dizzy and woOooOoobly. lol it lasted like 2-3min.., then i threw up... not awesome...

 

[Superstargoddess]

Call me silly, but I thought that most of the tobacco out there came from farms in the USA for some reason. There is so much farm land in the country, but I guess that people will do anything to save some money and get those poor people from over there and in other 3rd world countries to do everything for them.

On one side of the fence I can see where people say "Well if someone didn't order from those people, they would starve to death!", but if someone REALLY wanted to help those people, don't you think that they would give them more than 13 cents an hour or whatever the article said? Sure, it's fine to help those people, but we have SO MANY farmers in THIS country that are down on their luck, how about we help them before we help people elsewhere? Always been a pet peeve of mine, why are we giving money to people in Africa and elsewhere when there are people here that need it?

Honestly, I think that outsourcing should be illegal. When I worked for Amazon.com, after 2am everyone went home and the people in India and elsewhere took over. But you know what? I KNOW that if Amazon would have wanted to, they could have found people in the USA that would have worked from 2am to 10am to fill those positions.

If you are a company that wants to "help" people, at least pay them halfway decently.

 

[SLDS181]

Sure, it's fine to help those people, but we have SO MANY farmers in THIS country that are down on their luck, how about we help them before we help people elsewhere? Always been a pet peeve of mine, why are we giving money to people in Africa and elsewhere when there are people here that need it?

Nah, thats what our tax money does. Subsidizes farming. In fact, we (as in, the USA) have paid farmers to not grow their crops so that the US market isn't flooded.

 

[Superstargoddess]

Nah, thats what our tax money does. Subsidizes farming. In fact, we (as in, the USA) have paid farmers to not grow their crops so that the US market isn't flooded.

Could you explain this a little more so I don't have to spend hours on google?

 

[TropicalBob]

Ladyraj: There are two brands of snus that I cannot order from Sweden, because suppliers cannot sell either to me: Montecristo and Romeo y Julieta. Why can't they sell me these snus? Both contain Cuban tobacco, which remains embargoed for sale in the U.S.

Connect the dots and ask what would happen if customs knew some carts contained products already illegal under the Cuban embargo. I found this Web page right after I had received an order of E-Cig cigar and pipe carts. Yep, those are the ones in the photo. And it makes sense that Cuba and China, good communist buddies, would be trade partners.