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tmcase

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Terry, I don't know if it's how the picture is lit as much as it's the context it's in. I find things wrong when I post a photo of my drawing here that I didn't see in the photo of the drawing on my computer. IMHO, we just have to sharpen our awareness so we see the details before someone has to bring them to our attention. That's what my aim is, anyway. Till then, I'm grateful for those who bring things to my attention. I hope having stuff pointed out to me and then seeing it will help me focus on such things on my own. Sort of like training wheels before you learn to ride a bike, you know?

As for anatomy, the bone and muscle structure under the skin on an animal or human matters a lot. That's why artists study anatomy. I think squirrel anatomy is probably close enough to dog and horse anatomy that I can picture the main features. Whether I can reproduce them accurately is another story. But at least I have an idea, especially of how horses are built. Maybe before you do an animal, study the skeleton and muscles if you can find a site that has a picture of that. Or, if you have a pet dog or cat, just pet it and think about how it's built, where you feel the bones protrude, which way the legs are bent, etc.

I'll tell you a funny story about that. My mom went to art school, and she had to study anatomy, which she hated, she told me. But I bet it was just human anatomy.

Every Christmas, she used to make our Christmas cards, usually a linoleum block print. One year, she made the block with Joseph leading a donkey, Mary riding it and holding the baby Jesus. I was old enough that I had already studied horses and tried to draw them,
so I was appalled when I saw the picture she planned to use for the block print had the donkey's hind legs bent the wrong way! They worked like knees instead of hocks. I pointed this out to her, and at first, she didn't want to believe me and wouldn't change it, but I persisted. I brought her a bunch of photos of horses in my books and from my horse scrapbook and insisted. Finally, she changed the donkey's hind legs. Whew! Major meltdown on my part averted!

For me I see the drawing the same in my post as I see on my PC but it's way different then my B&W print out. That's why I thought a back light would emulate a PC screen but I can't find what I'm looking for. :( I'll just have to do what you suggested and look for similar pics that show more structural detail. I could display the photo on my iPad but the screen keeps shutting off and I get tired of turning it back on. I might try this anyway if I can adjust the screen timeout longer.
 

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Hey Lis, Thanks for the info but my monitor auto calibrates when I turn it on.

Did you get moved?

yes i got moved :D

i do not believe in that famous auto calibration, it only create an auto standard, that's my job i have to print photos an art all the time and they always have to match my screen and the screen of the customer if the customer has a perfect calibrated screen
 

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yes i got moved :D

i do not believe in that famous auto calibration, it only create an auto standard, that's my job i have to print photos an art all the time and they always have to match my screen and the screen of the customer if the customer has a perfect calibrated screen

How do you like your new place?

I don't know how to calibrate my new monitor. The mouse and arrow keys don't respond to the menu :confused: so I set it to auto. :blush:
 
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I tutored today. The kids wanted to go to the library, so we did. I parked behind the restaurant and we walked the few blocks. Just as I arrived there, so did a lot of fire trucks and emergency vehicles. The kids and I were curious about what the problem was, but we couldn't see any signs of something wrong. The firemen were milling around the Commons and Aurora St., and it seemed they didn't know what the problem was, either. The boy suggested someone might have called in a fire as a prank, and I told him that would be called a false alarm. He asked me if a person could go to jail for that, and I said he might, if they caught him. Then the boy wanted to know why they might not catch him, and I said he could have pulled an alarm when no one was looking, and then run away. I first thought of calling it in on a pay phone, but there aren't many of those nowadays. And if he used his own phone, it could be traced.

That was our conversation on the way to the library.

When we got there, someone was using the private room, which was so cozy last time, so we sat out at a table. No one seemed to mind softly reading aloud. The little girl went first, and she chose a book that was in English, but it was about Spanish guys with Spanish names and certain words and phrases in Spanish. There was a glossary in the front of the book where we could turn for pronunciation and English meanings of the few Spanish words. The little girl said, "But I don't speak Spanish!" I answered, "Neither do I, but we can refer to the glossary." So she read, and I was surprised (though maybe I shouldn't have been) that she knew the word "restaurant." After all, her parents own one.

And I knew a few Spanish words, too, like no mas and puerco.

Then it was the boy's turn. He chose another Lego ninja book, but it was longer than what we struggled through last time. I suggested he find something easier, so he brought back a ridiculously easy book, which he zipped through. I suggested a harder book. I said when choosing a book, don't just look at the pretty picture on the cover, but read some of the first page, or the middle, or even the last page, and see if it sounds like something you can handle and if it's interesting. He went off to find a book about geology. I really think (hope) this boy will become a scientist of some sort. He is so interested in all things of that sort from how volcanoes work to how astronauts work in outer space, and from how fish live in the sea to how the solar system works and what other planets are like and whether there's life elsewhere in the universe. Last time, one of the words he was learning was "potential," and I told him he had the potential to become a scientist. That was after explaining the word and I was using it to show him it in a sentence.

Before we finished the geology book, my cell phone rang, and it was Bill, offering to come pick us up so we wouldn't have to walk back to the restaurant in the cold. We cut the lesson short. We were going to wait inside the door, but the little girl wanted to wait outside. I said, "OK, till we get too cold. Then we'll go back inside." But soon Bill pulled up in my car, and we all piled in. They all got out at the restaurant, and I got in the driver's seat and came home.

It's ferociously cold, but the sunset was gorgeous driving home. When I parked and got my stuff out of the car, I decided to take a walk with my camera. But sunsets are quick, and I only caught the tail end. Still, I walked the mile I call my short walk, and as I was headed home, I couldn't wait to get back, it was so cold.

Later, when it's warmer, I should take my camera with me when I come home from tutoring. Maybe I can catch the sunset right at the best moment instead of just enjoying it from the car as it whizzes down the road.
 

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For me I see the drawing the same in my post as I see on my PC but it's way different then my B&W print out. That's why I thought a back light would emulate a PC screen but I can't find what I'm looking for. :( I'll just have to do what you suggested and look for similar pics that show more structural detail. I could display the photo on my iPad but the screen keeps shutting off and I get tired of turning it back on. I might try this anyway if I can adjust the screen timeout longer.

I'm spoiled and I actually have two light tables, but when I was in a bind or away from my studio, I used a picture frame or a glass table with a piece of white thin/translucent paper and a cheapo table lamp. I did this a lot when I was hand-coloring the backs of photos printed on translucent paper (haha in bed), and when I had to look at negative film offsite...but I don't know how that would help you with photos printed on opaque paper...:confused: (printer ink isn't opaque). Maybe better lighting on the front might work better? Or try lightening/darkening the photo before printing, for detail...or try marking a print up for potentially missed details with red ink (haha like Rave does). Again, I don't draw, but when I did stuff that required a reference photo, sometimes I'd have 3 or 4 reference prints of the same thing in front of me, just cuz I'm really .... and nitpicky about everything.
 
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I'm spoiled and I actually have two light tables, but when I was in a bind or away from my studio, I used a picture frame or a glass table with a piece of white thin/translucent paper and a cheapo table lamp. I did this a lot when I was hand-coloring the backs of photos printed on translucent paper (haha in bed), and when I had to look at negative film offsite...but I don't know how that would help you with photos printed on opaque paper...:confused: (printer ink isn't opaque). Maybe better lighting on the front might work better? Or try lightening/darkening the photo before printing, for detail...or try marking a print up for potentially missed details with red ink (haha like Rave does). Again, I don't draw, but when I did stuff that required a reference photo, sometimes I'd have 3 or 4 reference prints of the same thing in front of me, just cuz I'm really .... and nitpicky about everything.

I held my print out up to a light and it didn't help any. I can adjust the contrast on my printer though. I did that for another drawing but didn't do that with the squirrel. I really should have. :facepalm:
 

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Hiya Voltville!

Holy Cow! No wonder my ears have been ringing. You folks sure do talk about me a lot! :lol:

I've been "recovering" from a major overload of humanity this weekend. This may sound weird to many of you, but I have trouble with too many people at once. Of course, there was my son and his fiance, then add two of their friends - a husband and wife visiting from Wisconsin for the whole weekend. Now add in my daughter and her husband and my BF. I almost spontaneously combusted on Saturday, but my BF knew how to distract me in a positive way. He brought his drill press. [cue angel chorus on high singing] I had fun working on my mod/PV holder over the weekend. That pretty much saved my sanity along with the company and encouragement of a good friend. I survived the overload relatively unscathed. Did need an extra day after the weekend all by myself in order to regain my ...... ease. That probably sounds incredibly odd. But, it's how I'm built.

Anyhow, I'm back. And before I reply to some of the posts that I've read (and yes, I do back read - every word), I'll show some very short videos that were taken from one of the Trail Cams just cuz y'all might enjoy them.



I think I can only get one video in a post. :unsure:


It appears as though your northern deer, in addition to being much larger than the ones we "grow", also have a much more substantial tail!
 

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I held my print out up to a light and it didn't help any. I can adjust the contrast on my printer though. I did that for another drawing but didn't do that with the squirrel. I really should have. :facepalm:
The squirrel had a lot of really subtle details though. You picked up A LOT! And you even gave him a makeover to boot! :lol:
Reminds me of how my mom always complains about how messy MY hair is. "Ever hear of a comb?" :laugh:
 

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I wondered if you were in New Hope getting hammered by this mess. Stay warm. Or better yet, get back to Florida ASAP!! :laugh:

It's not fit for man nor beast here. When I got up this morning, it was -8. It's better now, but still frigid. Found that out when I walked to the mailbox. But ... it was Smokeless Image vape mail, and I had to go get it. Just some nicquid, but still!!

Yep - Was there for "My" usual 5 week trip and let's just say that being there in 14 degrees (wind chill of -4 degrees) today - I am THANKFUL that I just got back to Florida to a Very Warm & Balmy 46 degrees and going down with frost warning tonight . . . So I am basking in the warmth and will be sweltering in 70 degree weather tomorrow . . . :lol: :lol: :lol:

SO - Ya' want to come on down - "You" could be sitting here with "Me" . . .
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Just Sayin' . . . ;)
 

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Yep - Was there for "My" usual 5 week trip and let's just say that being there in 14 degrees (wind chill of -4 degrees) today - I am THANKFUL that I just got back to Florida to a Very Warm & Balmy 46 degrees and going down with frost warning tonight . . . So I am basking in the warmth and will be sweltering in 70 degree weather tomorrow . . . :lol: :lol: :lol:

SO - Ya' want to come on down - "You" could be sitting here with "Me" . . .
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That has to be really cruel to the old bod going from those extremes not that your bod is old.

BF is on his way back from FL and our 46 degrees is going to make him freeze. Then he'll know how I've been feeling. :lol:
 

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    That has to be really cruel to the old bod going from those extremes not that your bod is old.

    BF is on his way back from FL and our 46 degrees is going to make him freeze. Then he'll know how I've been feeling. :lol:

    AH - But it is - OLD ! ! ! :facepalm:

    AND - Getting Much "OLDER" by the Millisecond . . .

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