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Raynes

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I've heard a variation on that saying: "Absence makes the heart go wander."

On the news, they said you got your share of winter weather recently. I pity you Southern folks who just aren't prepared for that kind of thing. Here, where we expect it, it's just another day in the life.
The only thing that wanders at my age is my mind and that's to try to find something that I have missed place. LOL Have a GREAT day Sandy and KUDOS to you for getting Penny to the barn by yourself.
 

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Fortunately, although I do haul hot water out 2-3 times a day when it is cold out like this, I only have to haul out one or two buckets worth.

I guess for just a couple of buckets, it's not worth it, but at the barn where Penny lives, they have heaters in the water tanks so they don't freeze. That means you need electricity in the barn, though, which is an expense to run out there unless you have it already.
 

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Bro slept in! So - I was looking at the weather for different areas (old stompin ground in Orange County CA; Sis in Ohio etc).
Came across this video on the Wx Channel app:
Kinda funny (unless it's YOU!)

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Wow! Not fun! I'm glad no one was hurt. Black ice is the worst.
 

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Remember the other day I said my old computer's monitor died? Well, this morning, just to see what would happen, I turned the computer on, and it's back. It didn't die; it was just hibernating. How come? All you computer experts -- Why didn't it work the other day, and after a bit of a rest, now it's working again?
 

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Bro slept in! So - I was looking at the weather for different areas (old stompin ground in Orange County CA; Sis in Ohio etc).
Came across this video on the Wx Channel app:
Kinda funny (unless it's YOU!)

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Gotta wonder why nobody threw a few handful of coarse sand out there since it seemed to be so localized. I sure don't bounce as well as I used to!
 

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'morning, Blues!

Rave, I'm not sure if I should thank you or not for mentioning Sketchup or not. It certainly is versatile and pretty full featured for a freebee. I've started fooling with it on the laptop and can't decide if I should get a wireless mouse for the laptop or move over to the desktop with a bigger screen and a mouse. Decisions, decisions.....
 

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I think the major difference between reading a book and using a computer is the amount of imagination involved. With the graphics, action graphics, of a computer the amount of imagination required is kind of limited. As a child and teenager I did a lot of reading, everything from Tom Swift to Atlas Shrugged to the Bible and spent a lot of time at the library in the reference room going from one thing to the next as a topic lead me. While you can do similar things on a computer, kids seem prone to playing games or watching movies. The upside is it keeps them occupied, the downside is they are not using their imagination or learning anything.

The pervasiveness of computers and smartphones is really getting to be out of hand. We went to my daughters for Christmas and my grandkids were there along with some of their friends. My son-in-law announced that phones were prohibited from the dinner table. Of course, before we got done with dinner two of the younger folks had their smartphones out under the table texting away. When they were caught and the hones were "confiscated" by my son-in-law you'd have thought, by their behavior, that some horrendous act had been perpetrated on them that was beyond the realm of human behavior. These are what is considered today, I think, "normal" teenagers/young adults. Not a very good sign. It really sort of bothers me to be out to dinner at a restaurant or diner and see kids with their parents and the kids are oblivious to everything because they're on their smartphone or Gameboy and this seems to have become the norm.

I feel like I should hang my standard disclaimer after this one, LOL.

Technology has come a long way since I was a kid. If my parents told me to do something, I usually did it. Kids these days seem to push the limits of their parents. I was told to address adults by Mr/Mrs, and not use their first name. Now parents are introducing me to their kids with my first name. I don't have children but if I had; I'd have taught them to use Mr/Mrs/Ms before using their first name.

I'm amazed at what kids get away with these days using technology. But then again, I see a lot of adults walking around with music playing in their ears tuning out the rest of the world. We have become a me, me, me society in many ways. Technology has enabled that. But, as humans we have the simple choice of using it or not. I guess I'm still old fashioned and prefer a face to face conversation.
 

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Remember the other day I said my old computer's monitor died? Well, this morning, just to see what would happen, I turned the computer on, and it's back. It didn't die; it was just hibernating. How come? All you computer experts -- Why didn't it work the other day, and after a bit of a rest, now it's working again?


Sandy, it may still be dying. When you are going to let it sit for awhile, unplug it and see if that helps.
 

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Sandy, it may still be dying. When you are going to let it sit for awhile, unplug it and see if that helps.

I'm sure my monitor is dying. It's been giving me signals for over a year now. I was just puzzled by the fact that after the screen went black, and I turned it off and turned it on and the screen was still black, then when I left it alone for a day (plugged in still), it decided to work again. I guess it decided to give me a little more time with it when it heard I'd give it away.

Why would unplugging it help?
 

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I'm sure my monitor is dying. It's been giving me signals for over a year now. I was just puzzled by the fact that after the screen went black, and I turned it off and turned it on and the screen was still black, then when I left it alone for a day (plugged in still), it decided to work again. I guess it decided to give me a little more time with it when it heard I'd give it away.

Why would unplugging it help?

If it is a cathode ray tube (I suspect it is), it's probably wearing out. By turning it off (or unplugging), it will cool and reset the circuitry, although voltage will still be present in the high voltage circuits behind the CRT. This may give it a rest and work for awhile longer, but then again it might finally die once you try to power it back up.

Please remember that if you decide to throw it away, never ever hold the monitor towards yourself. It's a pain to carry the other way around, but those things hold a lot of power to them, even when turned off. If you have an E-recycling event, you can always drop it off there so it can be properly disposed of.
 

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If it is a cathode ray tube (I suspect it is), it's probably wearing out. By turning it off (or unplugging), it will cool and reset the circuitry, although voltage will still be present in the high voltage circuits behind the CRT. This may give it a rest and work for awhile longer, but then again it might finally die once you try to power it back up.

Please remember that if you decide to throw it away, never ever hold the monitor towards yourself. It's a pain to carry the other way around, but those things hold a lot of power to them, even when turned off. If you have an E-recycling event, you can always drop it off there so it can be properly disposed of.

I've carried this computer in the past, and I did hold the monitor's face toward me. Why shouldn't I do that? Is there radiation or something?
 

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I've carried this computer in the past, and I did hold the monitor's face toward me. Why shouldn't I do that? Is there radiation or something?

CRT's even when turned off and unplugged still have a large amount of voltage held in the high voltage circuits that are usually behind the tube. If you've ever looked at an old TV, the screen is huge and it funnels back to a cone. Behind that cone houses the high voltage circuitry.

If the CRT is dropped, it can implode and it's path is through the screen. That is why you shouldn't carry them towards you because if you end up falling or dropping it, wherever that screen is pointed is the projectile point. That is why the housing on old CRT's are huge - to protect us.

I learned this when I was in electronics school and my TV instructor warned us of such things. I was also shocked by the high voltage circuitry than earned me an voltage arced slam against the wall.

Don't worry about flat screens - they don't have CRT's and don't hold the power like our old TV sets.
 
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This seems apropos to our conversation today!

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The high voltage that remains on a CRT after a TV is turned off is a DC charge on the "accelerator anode" of the CRT which is a metallic plating on the inside of the tube. This generally is around 15 to 20 thousand volts at a few milliamps. Yeah, it'll bite the heck out of you if you get ahold of it, in this case it behave likes static electricity since it can't be "renewed" if the CRT is off. It will also bleed down over time, how far and how fast depends on too many variables, like ambient humidity and how much dust is on the outside of the tube itself and how good the design is in terms of bleed circuits. Also the smaller the tube, the lower the voltage involved. Big screen TV's, CRT TVs, ran upwards of 25 thousand volts, while smaller computer monitors are down around 10 to 15 thousand. The glass on the front of a CRT is always very thick, as in about an inch or more which prevents getting a shock from touching the front of the tube.

I've heard tons of stories about people getting shocks from CRT or picture tubes. I handled too many to remember in every stage of assembly and dis-assembly. I never got a shock except when handling them outside of the case and that was taking the high voltage lead off of the tube with un-insulated tools. Yeah, they bite hard, but carrying them from the front while they're inside the case, especially a computer monitor which is relatively small and "low voltage", is a pretty safe thing to do since having it balanced makes it easier to carry and harder to drop.

Now that I've bored everyone to death about CRTs and high voltage, you know how old school I really am, LOL.
 
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CRT's even when turned off and unplugged still have a large amount of voltage held in the high voltage circuits that are usually behind the tube. If you've ever looked at an old TV, the screen is huge and it funnels back to a cone. Behind that cone houses the high voltage circuitry.

If the CRT is dropped, it can implode and it's path is through the screen. That is why you shouldn't carry them towards you because if you end up falling or dropping it, wherever that screen is pointed is the projectile point. That is why the housing on old CRT's are huge - to protect us.

I learned this when I was in electronics school and my TV instructor warned us of such things. I was also shocked by the high voltage circuitry than earned me an voltage arced slam against the wall.

Don't worry about flat screens - they don't have CRT's and don't hold the power like our old TV sets.

Thanks for the warning. It's good to know.
 
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