CHIT CHAT in VOLTVILLE

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Raynes

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Now I'm wondering. I had an MRI once, and they were very careful to know if I had any metal in me, like maybe once I might have gotten a metal splinter in my eye or something. I thought you couldn't have an MRI if there was metal in you because the magnetism would get messed up or move the metal or something. Now I have a plate in my arm, and I just assumed that would mean I couldn't have an MRI anymore. But you have a screw, probably holding a plate like mine, and you had an MRI. How does that work?
There are some surgical metals that are contraindicated for a MRI. I don't know a lot about radiology or surgery but what they use now I think is titanium and that is OK.
 

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Aw Blues :blush: I suspect that you may be just a tad biased. After all, you have read a lot more of my ramblings than these folks have been subjected to; but that's just because we aren't able to see each other in person as often as we'd like. You're just very tolerant. But - thank you anyhow. :wub:

If I were to write a book, there isn't a person in the world who doesn't know me personally that would believe it.
Yes they would,no way a person can make your adventures up Rave. When you write them its like we are all right there with you. I still go back and read your Alaska adventure
 

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That's why they use Titanium, it's an alloy (no carbon) so it's nonmagnetic. It's also very expensive. According to my final hospital bill $478,000.00 and change, of course that's parts, labor and they topped off all the fluids. This X-Ray is before they did the anterior part of the cage I can't find the final X-ray but basically they fuse all the vertebra together and then screw Titanium rods and clips with Titanium screws that are almost 2 inches long into what was your or rather my spine. The 4 rods run from my neck C7 to my waist L5.

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Oh, OK. My plate is stainless steel, I was told, so I guess there are no more MRIs in my future.
 

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The only upside if there is an upside is they kept me so high on morphine and other narcotics I slept the better part of the first year. That X-Ray was after the 5th surgery the were three more after that. The first 5 were done from the back and the last three they did from the front. They did it in stages kinda like building a skyscraper. My spine is completely surrounded by the structure. I'm a lot of fun at Airports, even though I have a card I still get strip searched most of the time.

I asked my surgeon about a card for when I have to go through metal detectors. He said they are useless. No one will honor them because it would be so easy for the Taliban to make those cards. Therefore, I don't have a card. The metal detectors I'll probably go through are at the police station, if I need to go there about my driver's license or car registration, or once I was called for jury duty, and they had a metal detector to get in the courthouse. I haven't flown in years and don't plan to, so airports are probably low on my list of possible metal detectors.
 
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Good Morning Volties!

I've made quite a bit of strong coffee for all of you. Hopefully, those having to deal with the nor'easter today won't have too much of a rough time. I've got all of you in my thoughts. This is just adding insult to injury for so many. :(

I think this will miss us. They mention snow in the forecast, but no accumulation mentioned. We often get a little snow at this time of year, so I don't expect a huge storm. This morning, we have a heavy frost on everything, like Rave's photos. However, no sunshine to make it glisten, just a solid gray sky that might hold some snow unless it warms up considerably.
 

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I think this will miss us. They mention snow in the forecast, but no accumulation mentioned. We often get a little snow at this time of year, so I don't expect a huge storm. This morning, we have a heavy frost on everything, like Rave's photos. However, no sunshine to make it glisten, just a solid gray sky that might hold some snow unless it warms up considerably.

Oh yeah - I forgot to tell you [duh]. I looked at the weather maps (yesterday?), and it does look like it's gonna miss you. You might get some wind from it though.
 

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I asked my surgeon about a card for when I have to go through metal detectors. He said they are useless. No one will honor them because it would be so easy for the Taliban to make those cards. Therefore, I don't have a card. The metal detectors I'll probably go through are at the police station, if I need to go there about my driver's license or car registration, or once I was called for jury duty, and they had a metal detector to get in the courthouse. I haven't flown in years and don't plan to, so airports are probably low on my list of possible metal detectors.

Virginia is behind the times in that regard. We don't have metal detectors anywhere except the Federal Courthouse and the Airports. I think up in Northern Virginia closer to DC they might have them in the State Courts and Police Stations but then they need them. I think we should donate Northern Virginia to DC anyway because 99% of the people that live there work for the government and most are from the northeast. Your Doctor is right on the money about the cards, they are worthless in an airport, I fly at least once a month to NYC and even though you can see the scar from my surgery just by looking down the back of my shirt I still end up in one of the little rooms with 2 or 3 Homeland Security Agents in my underwear (how's that for a visual in the early morning) but it really doesn't bother me anymore because after spending over a year in the hospital I've become accustom to being naked in front of groups of people. Since my surgery was a first for the hospital and for the most part Neurosurgery I felt like a display at the Smithsonian by the time I got to go home.
 

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There are some surgical metals that are contraindicated for a MRI. I don't know a lot about radiology or surgery but what they use now I think is titanium and that is OK.

The only two metals they can use inside the human body that are nonmagnetic are 303 Stainless Steel which is very heavy and Titanium which is stronger than most steels and light as a feather, I still have over 11 lbs of the stuff. Also with Titanium you have to take anti-rejection drugs for the first few years depending on how much Titanium they have to install. While I was laid up for the duration of the healing I did enough research to have a medical degree, I learned thing's I would have been better off not knowing!
 

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Oh here's a little known fact, for long duration surgeries where you are under for say 8 hours they are using psychedelics in the anesthesia, I guess the research tells them that it allows them to use less of the anesthesia that causes respiratory problems. Don't ask why I knew to ask this question after one of the surgeries.

Just a suggestion, can we please change the subject? I'm having flashbacks and I'm sure I've done irreparable harm to some peoples minds and to those folks I do apologize. :)
 

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303 Stainless is nonmagnetic so you may still be fine, I'm pretty sure that's the only stainless they use these days.

Thanks for the input. I'll have to ask my doctor what kind of stainless steel he used. I had no idea there were different kinds.

BTW, anyone have any experience with cold laser therapy? A friend suggested it. She has a friend who broke her ankle, never got back full range of motion, and then got cold laser therapy and now has full range of motion. I asked both my doctor (the surgeon) and my physical therapist about it, and neither knew anything about it. I just Googled it, and it seems very experimental, not covered by insurance, and no article specifically mentioned broken bones with a plate holding them together. I guess I'll try more conventional means of regaining full mobility first. I don't think I'm experiencing enough pain to make it worth the expense just for pain management. Also, how would the laser react to the metal in me? Would it not penetrate? Lots of unknowns.
 

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Thanks for the input. I'll have to ask my doctor what kind of stainless steel he used. I had no idea there were different kinds.

BTW, anyone have any experience with cold laser therapy? A friend suggested it. She has a friend who broke her ankle, never got back full range of motion, and then got cold laser therapy and now has full range of motion. I asked both my doctor (the surgeon) and my physical therapist about it, and neither knew anything about it. I just Googled it, and it seems very experimental, not covered by insurance, and no article specifically mentioned broken bones with a plate holding them together. I guess I'll try more conventional means of regaining full mobility first. I don't think I'm experiencing enough pain to make it worth the expense just for pain management. Also, how would the laser react to the metal in me? Would it not penetrate? Lots of unknowns.

I've done a little reading on it but I would caution you to steer clear of anything experimental or you might end up like me and God knows you don't want that. :blink:
 
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