As does the M401 (the recently available & frankly marvelous EastMall EM4, which is also one of the first M401 manual batteries on the market)
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nice advise for newbies, however some of the statements about flavor and throat hit, although true, are kind of exaggerated. the juice you use has much more to do with it than the actual model. different companies make different quality products and different Mg all makes much more of a difference. are you sure that the 510 isn't for you?
Very true, as I've found over the last 7-10 days.
Using a standard e-cig, I prefer the 901 much more than the 801, which I prefer much more than the 510. With my Prodigy, I prefer the 510 atomizer over the 801 atomizer. I don't have a big-battery 901, so we'll see when I get one.
Define "IT GOES DOWN WAY TOO QUICK" please.
I'm guessing it is a wicking issue, but I'm only guessing at this point.
More information, with specifics, is needed.
I read what I could on this forum but was too excited to wait, besides everyone has a favorite and you will find rants and ravs on every model. So, I started with 2 over priced e-cig 801 units. (still cheaper than smoking though) After 2 months both batteries died at the same time and after spending $36 to have replacements overnighted I went to heavensgifts and ordered 2- 901 kits, 8 attys, and 4 batteries and 30ml 36 e-juice. 1 atty passed the test but died 1st day of use leaving me with 9 for the same price the 2-801s had cost me.
The 801 I thought I loved seemed weak compared to the 901. The 901 gave more flavor, the vapor thicker and the size was nice so I put the 801 aside for a few months.
The 901s 4 months later-- 3 batts and 4 attys dead, the remaining units work but not like brand new, even after cleaning (except for my rarely used grape flavored designated atty.) I no longer love the 901 because of my new mods but will get more for public use and I really like them when they are fresh.
I have a modded nicobox using the ultrafire protected 14500 900mah 3.6v battery and a weird usb setup which is powered from a wall outlet.
The 801 attys I had set aside are perfect with my mods. The carts seem to make the vapor airier? so I like to just drip the liquid.
My advice: Once you know you like vaping Do not rely on just 2 attys or 2 batteries. Either get more spare parts, or if your budget will allow then try other models as well. If you love vaping and can afford it then you will probably love the modders forum for diy or purchasing something like the jantystick or prodigy.
The 801 I thought I loved seemed weak compared to the 901. The 901 gave more flavor, the vapor thicker and the size was nice so I put the 801 aside for a few months.
The 901s 4 months later-- 3 batts and 4 attys dead, the remaining units work but not like brand new, even after cleaning (except for my rarely used grape flavored designated atty.) I no longer love the 901 because of my new mods but will get more for public use and I really like them when they are fresh.
I have a modded nicobox using the ultrafire protected 14500 900mah 3.6v battery and a weird usb setup which is powered from a wall outlet.
The 801 attys I had set aside are perfect with my mods. The carts seem to make the vapor airier? so I like to just drip the liquid.
My advice: Once you know you like vaping Do not rely on just 2 attys or 2 batteries. Either get more spare parts, or if your budget will allow then try other models as well. If you love vaping and can afford it then you will probably love the modders forum for diy or purchasing something like the jantystick or prodigy.
Hindsight is a weird thing. I went with the two cheapest starter kits I could find after reading these forums. One 901 and one 510. I fell in love with the 901 right away and bought so many extra parts for it. I have so many neat colors and led's and stuff, it'd blow your mind. But, I found that the 510 is what keeps me away from analogs. So, after all the fun and flavor experiments, I wound up scrambling for 510 attys, as these were what kept me from smoking. The other "newbie" problem I ran into was buying flavors I don't like. I was a menthol smoker, but thought I liked the tobacco flavors after using the pre-filled carts. Turns out, I just want the menthol. Luckily, that's an easy mix. I'm glad I bought both models, but I wish I would've spent more time with them before buying so many extra parts and liquids. I would have spent more on the 510 than I did, and I would've purchased all menthol juice, too. Anyway, I'm glad I found these forums before I spent anything, you guys have been a great help. (I almost purchased the Blu cigs)
It took 2 days research to settle on the janty stick v2 as my first ecig. What sealed the deal was the 6 month warranty on the atomizer.
... but being the fool that I am, I skipped ordering extra juice with my ecig. The device came with 5 free carts which I vaped through in two days, and am now temporarily back on analogs while I wait for my order of ejuice to come in. Doh!
... but being the fool that I am, I skipped ordering extra juice with my ecig. The device came with 5 free carts which I vaped through in two days, and am now temporarily back on analogs while I wait for my order of ejuice to come in. Doh!
You see that statement about the 510 a lot around here.
But....Here's another good point to bring up.... that can be the case with menthol smokers and some go off menthol altogether when vaping. But there have been a lot of newbie posts on how 'all flavors taste the same (except for menthol usually)'. MUCH of that, from just a cursory 'paying attention poll' and my own experience, is that the tastebuds don't really wake up fully for 3 to 4 weeks after quitting analogs. So... don't marry yourself to one flavor and buy a whole lot of that, because it is very likely to change.** And if you were a menthol smoker might not mean you will be a menthol vaper. And the reverse is true - if you hated menthol analogs, you might like a menthol or mint vape - many instances of this being the case. I was menthol smoker and it now is about 6 flavors down on my favorites list. I still vape it and like it, just not all the time.
**If you feel the need to 'stock up' in case of a ban, buy the highest mg nic unflavored juice you can. But don't go wild(bulk) on one flavor until about a month into it
nice ebook you wrote there- I didn't read it all but I think your saying the 510 is still not satisfying you? but your wife likes it?
I say it' time for you to try 5 volt or Higher 6-7.4 volts- Go buy a Prodigy or Silver Bullet. I like them both but couldn't afford either.
Higher Volts is where it's at!
I say it' time for you to try 5 volt or Higher 6-7.4 volts- Go buy a Prodigy or Silver Bullet. I like them both but couldn't afford either.
Higher Volts is where it's at!
Well, that's *part* of the gist.
My wife is now dedicated to an 801 on her Vapre 51. But the 801 is all she can fit onto it (no adapters, etc), so I'd say that she's dedicated to the Vapre 51.Scottes said:
Your feeling here is a mistake. And it could be a very dangerous mistake. My M401 stuck on while I was driving. My best guess is because I had it out in the rain. But the rain was barely a sprinkle.
Get a manual battery.
Dave
401's auto activating is a well known issue with them. I believe they use a sound sensor rather than the more common flow sensor as their auto switch. So, they can keep firing while the sound source remains.
I've never seen any of my 901's go on without me dragging on them. They can stick in the on position after a drag, but once they hit the auto cutoff they'll then stay off. Or they can get sticky to activate. These issues are usually due to liquid getting in there -- as opposed to environmental issues like noise.
Tip: If you're auto switch is getting sticky or difficult remove the battery from the atomizer and then blow on the led end of battery. Then draw on the threaded end of the battery. You can do that a few times. You can also hold it by the led end and "flick" it like you would do with a mercury thermometer.
I've never seen any of my 901's go on without me dragging on them. They can stick in the on position after a drag, but once they hit the auto cutoff they'll then stay off. Or they can get sticky to activate. These issues are usually due to liquid getting in there -- as opposed to environmental issues like noise.
Tip: If you're auto switch is getting sticky or difficult remove the battery from the atomizer and then blow on the led end of battery. Then draw on the threaded end of the battery. You can do that a few times. You can also hold it by the led end and "flick" it like you would do with a mercury thermometer.
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Great info! I am in the process right now of sifting through tons of information trying to make an informed decision. I think I have made up my mind, and can hopefully order within the next week or so. Thanks again.
It's not a sound sensor. That would be silly, how much noise do you make when sucking on an e-cig?.
Where the confusion lies with this is the fact that it's basically a diaphragm that moves when you suck on your ecig. Exactly the same system that a microphone uses when you talk / sing into it (see info in link How Microphones Work ) The only difference being it is not converted into an audio signal as an end result, but in effect an on / off switch.
When the diaphragm is being pulled on (or pushed if you blow down the hole rather than suck) the contacts connect & form a circuit that activates the atty, when it's still the contacts don't make contact & the circuit is broken & the atty is switched off.
That's a pressure switch -- which is most commonly used. There are other types of activators which don't use a pressure based trigger, though. Do I own one or have I dissected one? No. Have I seen this problem discussed here a few times? Yes. The general terminology has been to refer to them as sound activated.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/28921-non-sound-sensitive-autos.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/puresmoker/16445-pilot-batteries-activating-their-own.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/17451-ouch-my-crotch-burnt.html
401 auto's and cars:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-reviews/18678-m401-vs-510-cant-decide-9.html
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It works on airflow within the thread end of the battery to move a part inside & cause contact to make a circuit. It does not relyon sound to activate it (unless you are talikng about sound in most basic terms, as in vibrations caused by something moving).
There is not a little microphone inside your e-cig.
They contain the same / similar components, but microphones convert the energy into a signal that in turn will convert to sound once it's gone through a speaker (incidentally, if it were a microphone you should be able to connect it to a sound source & turn it into a tiny speaker)
The components inside an e-cig leave it as energy thich just forces the contacts closed to make the circuit
There is not a little microphone inside your e-cig.
They contain the same / similar components, but microphones convert the energy into a signal that in turn will convert to sound once it's gone through a speaker (incidentally, if it were a microphone you should be able to connect it to a sound source & turn it into a tiny speaker)
The components inside an e-cig leave it as energy thich just forces the contacts closed to make the circuit
You know, I'm not going to argue the point further. What I've said is based upon the received wisdom of the forum and I've tried to provide some of that evidence in the form of posts giving responses from suppliers as well as those who have taken the device apart. Could it be incorrect? Yes. But as it stands, I'll take it as true as opposed to someone who is simply declaring that it is incorrect without providing evidence to back up that claim.
In the end, it doesn't really matter as it's getting off topic for the thread. The important point with regard to the thread is that not all auto switches are created equal. 401 autos firing off in a car does not mean other auto switches will. 401's are known for sensitivity to sound -- it doesn't really matter why that is the case -- just that it is and that you can't draw conclusions about all auto switches based on that one model.
In the end, it doesn't really matter as it's getting off topic for the thread. The important point with regard to the thread is that not all auto switches are created equal. 401 autos firing off in a car does not mean other auto switches will. 401's are known for sensitivity to sound -- it doesn't really matter why that is the case -- just that it is and that you can't draw conclusions about all auto switches based on that one model.
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