"Chucking Vapor" in public places

[drazinus]

I play Magic: the Gathering at a local gaming store and some of the other players/patrons have taken to vaping, which is great! The owner and employess tend to look the other way, especially if it isn't busy. However when there's a few different tournaments going on and everybody is elbow to elbow, someone, or multiple people, will complain about the vape and something is said usually along the lines of, "Cmon guys, take it outside." And as I said, it's a gaming store, families with small children frequently come in to browse, if not play in said tournaments.

I personally rarely vape in the store, and when I do it's usually because my mod is in my hand and I'm doing it subconsciously. I always take it outside, mostly because the people I hang with still use analog or a combination, so it's a good excuse for me to stretch my legs. Another added bonus is I vape pretty much constantly when I'm not at work or the card store, as that means I'm at home or driving to one of those 3 places, so going outside with the smokers let's have something to look forward to, which I feel is a big reason I enjoyed cigarettes.

 

[HecticEnergy]

The key to vaping etiquite in public to me is to always be respectful to those around you.

If you want to blow big clouds, fine. Just do it outdoors or at your home. Not in public places.

I recently needed to stay long term with my brother, who is a non-smoker and non-vaper. He's not against me vaping, but he doesn't like the smell and he claims it messes up his sinus's. I find it a little hard to believe, but I still respect his opinion. I vape only in my own bedroom, and not in the general living space in the house, or while riding in the car with him. Respect

I agree, its all about respect. Cloud chase or vape all you want, but dont be a jerk about it. Not to say that all cloud chasers (or vapers for that matter) are jerks, but some give a bad impression. 1 person blowing clouds and annoying a non vaper is all it takes to give them a bad impression of vaping as a whole... and heaven forbid if that non vaper is a voter!
My wife doesnt like it and wafts it off like it's a fart no matter what flavor I'm vaping. I vape freely around the house, but am sure to kick on a fan and blow it away from her general direction. I vape in the car, but I crack the window and blow it out the window.
My brother in law generally cloud chases all the time. His wife complains of a headache - he vapes 6mg nic, so I'm of the opinion its in her head... but instead of blowing it out the car he blows it toward the center of the car and opens the back windows... Way to be a jerk! lol

 

[LaPascualita]

OP didn't call them snooty hipsters - only "noobs" so I thought that was an improvement.

Shhhhhhhhh! The one that pi--ed off the owner was a hipster! Handlebar 'stache and all!

 

[HecticEnergy]

I play Magic: the Gathering at a local gaming store and some of the other players/patrons have taken to vaping, which is great! The owner and employess tend to look the other way, especially if it isn't busy. However when there's a few different tournaments going on and everybody is elbow to elbow, someone, or multiple people, will complain about the vape and something is said usually along the lines of, "Cmon guys, take it outside." And as I said, it's a gaming store, families with small children frequently come in to browse, if not play in said tournaments.

I personally rarely vape in the store, and when I do it's usually because my mod is in my hand and I'm doing it subconsciously. I always take it outside, mostly because the people I hang with still use analog or a combination, so it's a good excuse for me to stretch my legs. Another added bonus is I vape pretty much constantly when I'm not at work or the card store, as that means I'm at home or driving to one of those 3 places, so going outside with the smokers let's have something to look forward to, which I feel is a big reason I enjoyed cigarettes.

Thats a good point.. going out side to visit with the smokers... It's a sense of community.. I work from home for the most part now, but next time we are in a "no smoking" place, I'll have to go visit with the smokers... great place to educate potential advocates too

 

[Spidey2011]

Yes, there is an issue at hand...and that issue is that many vapers are very judgmental about others who choose to vape differently than they do.

Look, you and I are on the same side here when it comes to rude and obnoxious vapers in public, but it is not just those who sub-ohm. Many vapers can blow some pretty big clouds without sub-ohming....and they can be rude and inconsiderate about it in public.

True. My sub ohm clouds are just as big as my 1.5ohm clouds were. I could fog up a room either way. It's a matter of respect. Be discreet about it, because at the end of the day, private property is private property. Your rights end where the owners begin. If they don't want you there, you won't be there. Lol

 

[drazinus]

Thats a good point.. going out side to visit with the smokers... It's a sense of community.. I work from home for the most part now, but next time we are in a "no smoking" place, I'll have to go visit with the smokers... great place to educate potential advocates too

Absolutely! I've personally turned a few different people on to at least giving vape a shot. Whether they stuck with it or not is a completely different story, but who knows? I've been vaping for 5 years but only VERY recently completely quit analog. Sometimes all it takes is trying a different flavor, or in my case, trying someone else's tank and loving the feel of it compared to what I was used to.

 

[LaPascualita]

That is the only thing I miss about smoking. Many friendships were made in the smoking areas. Now I just get either strange looks, smokers wondering what I am doing on their turf with my fake smoke, or the 20 questions which I don't mind discussing, but I lose track of time in the discussions.

 

[HecticEnergy]

That is the only thing I miss about smoking. Many friendships were made in the smoking areas. Now I just get either strange looks, smokers wondering what I am doing on their turf with my fake smoke, or the 20 questions which I don't mind discussing, but I lose track of time in the discussions.

Sorry to side step this thread more... But I'm going on a cruise next month and I hear most vapers get bombarded with questions about their setups.. I was thinking about picking up some isticks/mvps with some nautilus/aero/mow tanks & heads to sell (probably at cost)... Ego's would be a bit cheaper, but personally I think for the money its worth the extra few dollars for the better equipment, giving a new vaper a great experience out the gate... but not sure how that would go over on the boat, or getting on the boat through security...

 

[Roydub]

I like to sub-ohm and chase clouds... That isn't the problem (unless you know nothing about battery safety, but that's another topic), the problem is ignorance... Just because a specific place has no law or ordinance against vaping doesn't mean you go around blowing the biggest clouds you can.. Like the example one poster gave (sorry im on a mobile app and having issues finding it) where someone was in a walmart blowing clouds at the register... those are the people that are going to cause problems for everyone else... With that said, if your outside then more power to ya... even if your inside and your not blowing huge clouds and your not being totally ignorant about it is fine it my book.. I have taken a few inconspicuous hits in a store before but only in an area no one else was in, and they were small hits...

Anyway.. to sum up my point... the problem is NOT those who sub-ohm... its those who just don't care

 

[renacer]

I agree with the general consensus that respect for others is important. That said, there is a level of negativity toward vaping I dislike. Once at work I got .....ed at for vaping in the PARKING LOT by someone who didn't even know me who was all "there is a smoking area on the other side of the building..." I wasn't even standing by the door but off to the side with the vapor going into the wind away from people. And it wasn't even a decent vaporizer but my first one ever, just a skinny lizard with pathetic clouds that didn't vaguely resemble a cigalike.

 

[Choc_Addic]

A couple of things I have noticed....
See some folks stealth vap in stores and such.... I don't see clouds/steam/vapor..... what ever. But I have seen people sternly look at them.
Some drunk f!@#% started the big vapor in a restaurant. And promptly got kicked out! Haha... That was funny.
My town is voting on public vaping ban. I will be there to say a few things about that. But it may be in vain.
And Public Transport (BART and City buses) are banning all vaping on their properties and Vehicles.

But immature nuts who Blow clouds for the sake of "show offs' "I'll do what I want, when I want" fools are making it all hard for everyone.

Really? Grow up already.
I love vaping but I do it with RESPECT.

 

[drazinus]

Anyway.. to sum up my point... the problem is NOT those who sub-ohm... its those who just don't care

^^ Absolutely this ^^

There was one person in aforementioned gaming store that was almost militant about his "right" to vape because it's not smoke. I haven't seen him more than a couple of times but he's always billowing clouds, similar to Peanuts' Pig Pen and his trail of dirt.

 

[OlderNDirt]

I have no problem with vaping "with respect" until that level of respect becomes only vaping where smoking is allowed. If we vapers as a group concede that level of respect as a boundary, we have already lost not only the battle, but the war. As the smoking options are eliminated, then so will be the vaping options.

 

[LaPascualita]

We know it's not smoke. But some people want to make it more than what it is for their own personal agenda. I haven't been paying much attention to news on vaping lately, not since last year's FDA scare. But has anyone actually died from vaping yet? Not talking equipment errors, but the ingestion of vapor in our usual day to day way? I have been vaping for over three years. I haven't had any problems yet. I just had the mother of all flus after Christmas, and fully recovered after a week, with no sick days, and I am 40! All of my smoking coworkers are just now not hacking!

Sorry my post seemed harsh, but it is an issue. Look at all the calls to action still going on! What? Eight years after e cigs came out? Some might call this topic repetitive, maybe I should have used the term "cloud chaser" instead, but it is about vapers etiquette, in a nutshell.

 

[Amraann]

Vaping finally started taking off by me. That's great. There are no bans here, as of yet. But what I see and hear more and more of is "Sub ohm, DO IT!!!" We have many people happy puffing on eGo kits, Evods. They are happy, respectful, and hurting nobody. At my job, I am respectful. I vape in the bathroom or go outside, if I absolutely must. I have been at this for over three years, so I can go a full shift with my vape still in my purse. But there are a couple of guys coming in and blowing CLOUDS (looks just like this) and the owner is talking about banning vaping altogether! He has no room to talk. He smokes like a chimney and sits right outside the door and puffs away while the smoke makes its way in every time that door opens and closes. But that is HIS castle, and he is the king of it . But my point is. Sub ohming is NOT okay indoors where smoking is not allowed! A little puff from an eGo kit will usually send the owners looking the other way to keep business, but a human fog machine is just obnoxious! Either take that outside, or keep a single coil 1.5 ohm RBA on hand for indoor occasions! I can honestly see how these indoor bans are coming to be!

IMO, This is not really about vaping or sub ohming. This is simply about someone being inconsiderate. I would venture to guess that the people you are talking about are equally as inconsiderate in other aspects of life.

Your boss should simply tell them that huge clouds are not permitted if that is how he feels. I dislike the notion that he would maybe ban it for all due to the bad behavior of a couple. When they say "but so-and-so vapes inside" He should say "grow up! and so-and-so does not make it obvious and obnoxious.

 

[LaPascualita]

This boss of mine uses smoking mostly for a social tool. Along with drinking. Since I started there, 4 coworkers started vaping. One quit smoking and vaping altogether. I think my boss sees vaping as a threat somehow. It is way more than blowing vapor in a restaurant. Imagine being a smoker and seeing all your smoking buddies just quit one day, then cigarettes disappear, than all there is left is vaping. I was lucky enough to embrace vaping. But putting myself in the shoes of smokers who are not ready to give vaping a thought, or think it looks ridiculous, or are just set in their ways, I can understand the paranoia. I am not even going to go on about nonsmokers and their paranoia...

 

[InTheShade]

Shhhhhhhhh! The one that pi--ed off the owner was a hipster! Handlebar 'stache and all!

Hipsters have had a rough ride over on a thread in the General Vaping forum. Let's be kind to those mustachioed ones inflicted with the mark of the Hipster in this one.

 

[LaPascualita]

JaJaJaJaJa!!! Found that thread!

 

[officer196]

Hammer just came down on us at the college yesterday. Monday vaping was still good to go, Tuesday the new student rules of conduct was released barring vaping from all campus owned property and buildings.

Why you ask? Well it probably had to do with the numerous students trying to vape in class despite the instructors asking them not to, do to the distraction it caused and student complaints, or the students who fogged up one of the student commons because "they could", or the setting off of smoke detectors for again, fogging up a commons area. What I found striking was the first girl I described actually argued with the instructor to the point she was removed from class.

We truly are our own worst enemy. Don't get me wrong, I like great flavor and big clouds just as much as the next guy, but many people seem to forget that when you cast a negative light on vaping by failing to use common sense, that person that perceived the negative light wont think of you as the minority, they will think of you as the majority. This has been demonstrated many times, over many different mediums such as bikers and guns.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

With vaping, there may not be specific laws at the moment, but their are "social" laws that, if we violate, can come back to haunt us. Seeing the bigger picture, I imagine those two young guys don't think much about.

First and foremost, this legal situation is about Tobacco Harm Reduction (THR). I don't think anyone is saying that vaping is perfect, just that it is better than smoking and it DOES help us to get away from all of the chemicals that come with cigarettes.

If I want to blow "clouds" I do it at home. I believe that if we can get people to see the benefits, there will be less problems. People at work, who don't understand but are seeing big "clouds", will probably not see that we are doing it for cigarette cessation.

Just me.