I can't believe how good this came out. I used a good quality Brazilian cigar, 45 minutes in warm %70 vg %30 pg. Filtered 3 times with a filter bag, then run through cotton with a syringe 3 times. I flavor the cigar liquid with diamond cut crazy for you. 2 3rds cigar, 1 3rd crazy for you 18 mills nic. So I end up with CIGARY4 6 mills of nic. Very easy to do and tastes better than any all artificial tobacco by far. Any ry4 will work for flavoring, but the crazy for you tastes like Carmel and vinilla with no tobacco, so it's perfect for use with my cigar net.