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We are like the Three Musketeers. LOL. I wonder if just us three is enough business for JF? Maybe one day we'll be chatting in PM about the old days when we were the only posters here.

Maybe with one more, we could be the 4 Horseman. One more and we'll have enough for a hoops squad. HAHA

(Damn double post. I hate it when that happens. It makes me look, uhh, premature. :facepalm:)
 
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So does anyone know how to mix these with the flavors?
Can it be vaped raw?

I know WTA is more for experts, but there's many newbies that will need it and just the mention of mixing things yourself will stop newbies like me from purchasing.

Yes, "raw" is best, in my opinion. Mixing is not required. Maybe try a small bottle of unflavored, vape it as is, see what you think. :)

And WTA is for everybody.

Everybody who wants it, that is. :laugh:
 
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Hi hi!

So does anyone know how to mix these with the flavors?
Can it be vaped raw?

Yes. I drip it myself and if I want it to taste different I just drip in a drop or two of something I fancy. I suppose if I ever get real frisky I'll put a couple of drops of peppermint in it or something. I do all our other liquids DIY so it is not as if I am afraid to play with flavors.

If the flavorings sold on site are in dropper bottles it might not be a bad idea to do "suggested drops to flavor 10ml and 30ml bottle". I am suspecting that 3ml would be overkill in a 10ml bottle..that and it won't fit in a full bottle. Now I have to ask if there is really room in the bottle for say 14-20 (absolute guess) or so drops of flavor?

With that price point on flavoring it might actually be more of a temptation for people who want to do really easy DIY. Especially with some suggested percentages. Hrmmm.. But there is the full bottle issue. Sounds like a quandary to me.
 

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Yes, "raw" is best, in my opinion. Mixing is not required. Maybe try a small bottle of unflavored, vape it as is, see what you think. :)

And WTA is for everybody.

Everybody who wants it, that is. :laugh:

I like that you put "raw" in quotes as it isn't raw (just like nic in PG/VG isn't raw). But, yes, I agree that it should be at least attempted without adding flavor, but everyone should pick up a sample flavor just in case. I just joked in the other thread that I "cover up" my unflavored with a drip tip. LOL

JF, I am up because my dangon dog needed to go out and she would not come back in, so I ended up vaping myself awake (more on that later). Grand Opening got you a little restless? LOL.

So does anyone know how to mix these with the flavors?
Can it be vaped raw?

I know WTA is more for experts, but there's many newbies that will need it and just the mention of mixing things yourself will stop newbies like me from purchasing.

It's basically the same thing as vaping straight nic in VG at whatever percentage you use, e.g., 25 mg (24 mg) 20 mg (18 mg), 17 mg (15 mg) etc.

The taste may not be for you, but that can change simply by adding concentrated flavoring. But, don't flavor the whole bottle until you work out how much you may want to add. STart off with a small 3 mL bottle first to try out how many drops and all that goodness.

If WTA was for experts only, only one person would be able to vape it, Dvap. Hell, no offence to JF, and he is the one who makes it, but I think as far as vaping and WTA are concerned, there is only one "expert." the rest of us all have varying degrees of knowledge. I am more of an expert at finding posts from the expert.

So what would be the best way to get the word out there to help support them?
Free 3 ml samples wouldn't be bad. I know they're doing some kind of contest for their grand opening.

The best way to get the word out, to me, is to just let people know you vape it and how. You don't particularly like the unflavored by itself, so you could let people that feel like you know how you vape it. I haven't much to say other than drip it, vape it, and blow it out. Well, sometimes I have more to say. ;)

I have posted a couple times in random threads that I vape WC's unflavored, but I would never hype it or push it in threads that have nothing to do with WTA. I never really feel like talking about it unless the topic is there already, I am simply reviewing it, people feel something is missing from their regular nic-only eliquid, or it's a thread where the topic at hand is of people needing help with transitioning off cigs. WTA is not for everyone, but the people is could be for should know that there are a couple vendors that may be able to help with that.

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Yes. I drip it myself and if I want it to taste different I just drip in a drop or two of something I fancy. I suppose if I ever get real frisky I'll put a couple of drops of peppermint in it or something. I do all our other liquids DIY so it is not as if I am afraid to play with flavors.

If the flavorings sold on site are in dropper bottles it might not be a bad idea to do "suggested drops to flavor 10ml and 30ml bottle". I am suspecting that 3ml would be overkill in a 10ml bottle..that and it won't fit in a full bottle. Now I have to ask if there is really room in the bottle for say 14-20 (absolute guess) or so drops of flavor?

With that price point on flavoring it might actually be more of a temptation for people who want to do really easy DIY. Especially with some suggested percentages. Hrmmm.. But there is the full bottle issue. Sounds like a quandary to me.

Hey Southern, yes, there's room in those bottles. Good points on the suggestions.
 
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Testing 123...

http://wholecig.com/index.php?route=common/home

Edit: Works posting from my computer here.
Must have something to do with the review section.
Crazy stuff.

A man's gotta know when to go to bed.
Night all.
Thanks to you both for pointing this out and looking into it.

I'll show Rick this conversation. I don't even try to puzzle out internet problems. I understand that it's a series of tubes. :laugh:
 

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JF, I am up because my dangon dog needed to go out and she would not come back in, so I ended up vaping myself awake (more on that later). Grand Opening got you a little restless? LOL.



If WTA was for experts only, only one person would be able to vape it, Dvap. Hell, no offence to JF, and he is the one who makes it, but I think as far as vaping and WTA are concerned, there is only one "expert." the rest of us all have varying degrees of knowledge. I am more of an expert at finding posts from the expert.

Hey Mr. Mann,

The truth is, I am usually up at this hour, often engaged in romantic discourse through the modern wonder of video-conferencing.


Looking forward to the weekend though. Lots to do. I should sleep already.


And yes agreed. Only one expert to speak of. So cool to have him make an appearance on our little discussion thread. Honored. :)
 
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JF, I think SouthernB made good points about adding recommend percentages to the flavorings. For example, if adding to a 3 mL add ___, or if adding to a 5 mL include _____ flavoring, or if flavoring a whole 10 mL bottle use _____ of this particular flavor. Also, will a 3 mL of flavoring be enough for a 30 mL and/or would it be too much for a 10 mL if all is used?
 

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I use it as my base for DIY, although I do dilute it a bit with some pg/vg, partially to make it a bit more cost effective and partially to lower the nic to my level. It does take a few extra drops to flavor than other base. Obviously I have other bottles to put it in. Maybe the website should sell bottles and droppers to make flavoring it more convenient. It's always nice when you can get the majority of what you need from one place and not pay shipping over and over.

It was my thought the other day that perhaps Wholecig should sell a lot more DIY stuff. Bases and bottles, glass and plastic, and if there was a chart on their page that showed what your nic/WTA levels will be when you dilute with base, that would be awesome. I had a friend do it for me because honestly I cringe at math.
I know there's only one website where Decadent Vapors flavoring is available, maybe there's a market for one more?
 

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It's basically the same thing as vaping straight nic in VG at whatever percentage you use,

True, but I don't think I have seen anyone say it had that peppery taste that some nics seem to have.


Rebgold, I can see them selling the bottles pretty easily since they have those in stock for product already. Especially if Mr. Mann is going to keep saying "don't flavor it all at once". They could also resell glycerin pretty easily as far as that goes. But right now all of that goes wibbly if someone orders more than fits in the current shipping box. Order 1 too many bottles and it is a whole new shipping charge. At least for right now.

I not did see menthol on the site (could be me) but, that would have been my really easy suggestion for flavor change for those who are not wild for the flavorless. It is one of the ones you can work the flavor up a drop at a time and never needs steeping.
 
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True, but I don't think I have seen anyone say it had that peppery taste that some nics seem to have.


I apologize if I didn't make it clear that I wasn't referring to taste. I meant it's okay to vape it straight, like you could do with nic in PG/VG (as long as it's a reasonable percentage). I by no way shape or form meant to say that WTA tastes like straight nic because, as you pointed out, it does not.

Dvap once said, "...concentrated nicotine and concentrated WTA have distinctly different odors." So yes, the taste will be completely different as well. Nic will have that almost peppery-ness sensation on the palate, but not much of an actual taste, and WTA will have some taste and a little less of that peppery-ness (though it does have its own kind of sensation).
 

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True, but I don't think I have seen anyone say it had that peppery taste that some nics seem to have.


Rebgold, I can see them selling the bottles pretty easily since they have those in stock for product already. Especially if Mr. Mann is going to keep saying "don't flavor it all at once". They could also resell glycerin pretty easily as far as that goes. But right now all of that goes wibbly if someone orders more than fits in the current shipping box. Order 1 too many bottles and it is a whole new shipping charge. At least for right now.

I not did see menthol on the site (could be me) but, that would have been my really easy suggestion for flavor change for those who are not wild for the flavorless. It is one of the ones you can work the flavor up a drop at a time and never needs steeping.
I believe Nor'Easter is their Menthol. I like it. I don't think it's straight menthol though, it also has a tobacco taste.
 
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