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[distortoblotto]

As a side note to the GLP...Tom, I'm really digging the new Torx center post screws.

 

[Chowderhead1972]

So I arrived home to find the Goon LP's waiting for me in the mail box. ( Thanks Tom!) I tossed one conventional 26g coil ( mounted from the top) and it was easy enough to mount them as long as you cut the coil legs at the right length to plug them in and fold them over. ( as a side note, I am not too impressed with the mounting screws as I can see where people are going to have problems stripping the Philips head screws without the properly sized driver) In fact, I think it would of been easier to tap the posts using shorter screws from the top of the posts and simply mount the wires through the sides.

With that being said, I had it in mind to go in a different direction. I wanted to use 2.5mm 36g Kanthal over 26g 316L Clapton's ( they came out to 0.34) and I decided to go a different route in the way they were mounted. After studying the situation a bit, I decided to go with my original thought and run the coil legs under rather than over. Keep in mind that this way of mounting is not for the coilally challenged. ( I just invented a new word...) What I did was to remove the capture bar screws from the right and push them over to the left in order to achieve the mounting and used a fine pair of jewelers needle nosed pliers to bend the legs to where I wanted them before I installed them, then set the coils with my looping tool to level them out and then pushed the bars back over to the right in order to set the screws. It was a bit of a PITA, but it worked.

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Next up was the wicking which I like fluffed, but I made sure there was plenty of air gap around the coils.

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Next up was to toss the top cap on and fire it up. Now, with the intakes wide open the vapor production was massive, but the flavor quit frankly sucked, so I started throttling back to find the sweet spot. What I found was that with the intakes set slightly wider than the coils the flavor and vapor not only came alive, but became much more dense. Throttled down more improved the density even more, but the draw from where I like it dramatically suffered.

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Will it displace my love for the standard 24mm Goons? As of right now I don't think so, but the LP is workable. Only more time with it will tell the whole story. As of right now, it isn't all that bad. In fact, there more I hit it, it's rather quite good. It may take a few more builds to get the most out of it.

So there you have it, ( kind of long winded) and as always, YMMV...

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Nice! Is it just me or is the LP larger in diameter than the Goon 24? Looks more like 24.6-24.8mm or am I looking at it wrong. I despise long legged coils, especially over the top long legged coils. I tried to wrap mine naturally (low side to the bottom and high side over the top and found the clap screws very hard to get to. Ironically I had the same exact revelation; ditch the plates turn the threaded holes into bores and drill and tap set screws into the top making it more of an old school 4/2 post Atty. I'm told that the delay of the release of the LP was due to them insisting on stainless steel uprights, this is good news for us if we want to go that route. Kind of a Goon LP (HD) concept.

 

[distortoblotto]

Indeed, it is a tad bit wider. I don't understand the reasoning or trend behind how some atty makers have to make things more complicated than they need to be. And dammit, don't cut corners and use stouter hardware as well.

 

[jazzvaper]

@distortoblotto

I am not coiling-challenged but won't go the under route. Next build I will actually measure the leg distance. If I remember it should be in the range of 5.5 mm (a 3 mm + a 2.5 mm screwdriver) though I need to double check that.

I substituted Nifethal 24 awg for the Kanthal and am happily TC'ing.

I vape at a lower wattage with emphasis on flavor so half the AFC suits me.

Thanx for the report.

 

[Chowderhead1972]

Just to let you guys know I have enough carbon fiber to make 2 more LBCs. I will order more but that will be 4 weeks minimum, possibly 8 weeks.

 

[TheKiwi]

For folks who find the Maker RDA top cap to be far too tight, the default o ring is 14mm ID X 1.5mm cross section.

Going down to 13mm ID makes it too loose for my liking. Haha


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[Chowderhead1972]

For folks who find the Maker RDA top cap to be far too tight, the default o ring is 14mm ID X 1.5mm cross section.

Going down to 13mm ID makes it too loose for my liking. Haha


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13 x 1.25?

 

[rudedog]

@distortoblotto

I am not coiling-challenged but won't go the under route. Next build I will actually measure the leg distance. If I remember it should be in the range of 5.5 mm (a 3 mm + a 2.5 mm screwdriver) though I need to double check that.

I substituted Nifethal 24 awg for the Kanthal and am happily TC'ing.

I vape at a lower wattage with emphasis on flavor so half the AFC suits me.

Thanx for the report.

i just cut the legs on it after ive got the right bend to them and drop them in from the top,tighten them down and bend the coils over...bendem over...lol. and viola...done.never thought of comming from the underneath...new position... in vaping anyways,ha ha.

 

[TheKiwi]

13 x 1.25?

That could work. I'm gonna try 13 x 1.5, and just add a tiny bit of floss. It's always worked well for me in fine tuning slightly loose top caps [emoji1362]


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[Chowderhead1972]

I have threatened releasing a CAM-M V2 previously but I never really pushed the concept. It's time for me to commit...

What I'm thinking:
A Tres Equis clone in either black delrin with aluminum trim, white delrin with aluminum trim, or the latest in Clone Coture; mutant green with red specs (I crap you not) not here to judge..... I'm nearly certain they are all mechanically the same so it's a wash. The Black/aluminum will be the standard but if you want white delrin or Mutant Vomit I'm sure I can accommodate.

The plan: remove a cell, replace it with a bottle it with a bottle, remove the entire 510 assembly and replace it with a VT BF 510 and make all the adaptations needed to end up with a 2 cell 18650 mech squonker with the least maintenance feasible. My goal is also to be able to utilize a 10/12ml bottle but that may or may not work out due to the 10/12ml bottle requiring a 21mm bore vs the 18.5mm bore of the 18650 that it will replace.
Other goals/hopes:
Open style bottle utilization (bottle fillable and replaceable without removing battery caps)
Recessed (flush) 510 (like the LBC and the Trap) goal .1mm proud like the LBC to be able to get the flush look without shredding the aluminum top.
Price point: $150ish depending on how many exotic parts I have to source or make. (Gold/silver plating parts, making silver screws, etc)

Concerns: The Tres Equis has a floating copper (possible silver/gold plated) plate that provides the battery anti rattle mechanism as well as 510 adjustment. This mechanism may need to be immobilized to avoid the vt BF from shorting (I'm not certain how much movement it allows) might not be an issue at all.

Based on the reviews the switch is very solid and low mantenance but I haven't seen any long term reports so to this regard I'm going into this blindly. No guts no glory right? That said I will post an interest list in a few minutes. In the truest sense of the word modding what do you say?

 

[Chowderhead1972]

Cam-M V2 interest list: black delrin/aluminum will be the standard, if you want one of the other colors (White delrin/Aluminum or Vomit Green with Red flecks) please put this next to your entry. I will edit in pics of the stock mod to give you an idea.

Edited... look at the pic, let's make the options black on black or white on black. You can pic others based on the pic below but no promises.

 

[Chowderhead1972]

Hold the phone.... look at that all black and the white with black! This changes everything....
I will need to contact this company but based on this picmaybe the all black would be the standard and the black with white could be the alternate.

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

deleted: was stupid really

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

Cam-M V2 interest list: black delrin/aluminum will be the standard, if you want one of the other colors (black on black or white on black) please put this next to your entry. I will edit in pics of the stock mod to give you an idea.

1. Tamer El-Meehy (Black derlin/aluminum) X1

 

[beez0527]

Hold the phone.... look at that all black and the white with black! This changes everything....
I will need to contact this company but based on this picmaybe the all black would be the standard and the black with white could be the alternate.

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Definitely enticed here all these colors actually look good together. Plus by the time you get to these my short term disability checks might show up, these companies are ridiculous I have been out of work since 11-14-16 and still have not got a check. They send everything back with some stupid change or Dr mistake so they deny and make you re-file (rant over) once you lock down pricing and colors I'm in for 1 or 2

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[ghola1was]

Cam-M V2 interest list: black delrin/aluminum will be the standard, if you want one of the other colors (black on black or white on black) please put this next to your entry. I will edit in pics of the stock mod to give you an idea.

1. Tamer El-Meehy (Black derlin/aluminum) X1
2. ghola1was (black/black) X1

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

Cam-M V2 interest list: black delrin/aluminum will be the standard, if you want one of the other colors (black on black or white on black) please put this next to your entry. I will edit in pics of the stock mod to give you an idea.

1. Tamer El-Meehy (Black derlin/aluminum) X2
2. ghola1was (black/black) X1

 

[hildicat]

Interested in the MV2, pending the final prototype. I hope you can get the 10ml bottle in there, and please, please let it be leak free. The VT510 in my V1 is far better than the original, but I wouldn't call it 100%. Liquid still works it's way under the button, just not nearly as fast as with the OG 510.


BTW Tom. You know who to call if you need someone to test your prototype...

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

Agree with Hildicat on the VT510. It's a major improvement over the old 510. Now I have to do the cleaning routine every 2 weeks or so instead of every 2-3 days. It's significant enough to make my CAM-Ms the most used mods in my arsenal. And maintaining a mech every 2 weeks is normal IMHO. But there is room for improvement.


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[RickCain]

Cam-M V2 interest list: black delrin/aluminum will be the standard, if you want one of the other colors (black on black or white on black) please put this next to your entry. I will edit in pics of the stock mod to give you an idea.

1. Tamer El-Meehy (Black derlin/aluminum) X2
2. ghola1was (black/black) X1
3. RickCain (white delrin/aluminum) X1