With the twisted messes the xl rips put it at 160w and it was pumping out the vapor and the flavor was still top notch. As I have said many times the xl is by far the best mode have ever owned or used.You should try Beez's Cam-r xl prototype. It has a 80 amp lipo with the dna200. Still well under 3" wide and will run all 200 for quite a while. That mod was tougher than me by a long shot.
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