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Ok.. so if not NN they who? The nic/diy section of my Rolodex is lacking content. The only companies I have dealt with is NN and Wizard Labs. This is in no way an endorsement of Wizard Labs.

I've only tried NN and Wizard Labs. I was buying everything from NN (PG VG NIC) but after my last purchase and shipping runaround and straight BS lies from Taylor I was thinking of just buying nic from them and getting PG and VG from Wizard Labs. But now that I see all these endorsements for VT I'm gonna give them a try. In this day and age, if I get shady customer service Im not giving them my money anymore.
 

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I've only tried NN and Wizard Labs. I was buying everything from NN (PG VG NIC) but after my last purchase and shipping runaround and straight BS lies from Taylor I was thinking of just buying nic from them and getting PG and VG from Wizard Labs. But now that I see all these endorsements for VT I'm gonna give them a try. In this day and age, if I get shady customer service Im not giving them my money anymore.
If anything, VT nic is cleaner IMO, but it's a really close call.
But you don't have shipping insanity to deal with, or poor CS.
You don't have to worry that your 100mg/ml is closer to 200mg/ml (see YouTube videos demonstrating this particular insanity from NN)
And to boot they do sell a lot of good flavorings, VG, PG etc. But I prefer Bull City for flavorings myself.

VT is amazing, highly regarded nic. VT and NN are the only good nics I've ever tasted. If the salts don't blow my mind I'll be using VT from now on.

I may branch out for VG, and try Liquid Barn as it is said to be really sweet VG. Dunno though - I'm a Sloth.
 

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I go Nude for Nic
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I've only tried NN and Wizard Labs. I was buying everything from NN (PG VG NIC) but after my last purchase and shipping runaround and straight BS lies from Taylor I was thinking of just buying nic from them and getting PG and VG from Wizard Labs. But now that I see all these endorsements for VT I'm gonna give them a try. In this day and age, if I get shady customer service Im not giving them my money anymore.
No please don't do anything that drastic. Check out VT.
 

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I go Nude for Nic, but may try VT if I decide I need any more.
Flavors are all straight from TFA and PG/VG from Essential Depot.
Solid choices. I have never had any issues with Nude Nic other than they are a little slow to ship.
 

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If anything, VT nic is cleaner IMO, but it's a really close call.
But you don't have shipping insanity to deal with, or poor CS.
You don't have to worry that your 100mg/ml is closer to 200mg/ml (see YouTube videos demonstrating this particular insanity from NN)
And to boot they do sell a lot of good flavorings, VG, PG etc. But I prefer Bull City for flavorings myself.

VT is amazing, highly regarded nic. VT and NN are the only good nics I've ever tasted. If the salts don't blow my mind I'll be using VT from now on.

I may branch out for VG, and try Liquid Barn as it is said to be really sweet VG. Dunno though - I'm a Sloth.
If you decide you like the salts I have a full 250ml bottle of 100mg.ml of the signature that I would be willing to part with. Evidently I like throat hit a lot. If you are a 18-24mg+ vapes and are sick of your juice tasting like nicotine death the salts are for you. If you are chasing traditional thought hit it's not. I'm pretty sure I would go into cardiac arrest od'ing on nic before I got any throat hit. I might try the heavy throat hit salts but the smooth and the signature are definitely not my bag. I have a 1L bottle of 6mg and another of 8mg 30/70 that are awesome. Made up some "Thug Juice" (grape and menthol) last night and ripped through 20mls in the last 14 hours. Thug Juice resets my taste buds. Harsh but awesome.
 

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If you decide you like the salts I have a full 250ml bottle of 100mg.ml of the signature that I would be willing to part with. Evidently I like throat hit a lot. If you are a 18-24mg+ vapes and are sick of your juice tasting like nicotine death the salts are for you. If you are chasing traditional thought hit it's not. I'm pretty sure I would go into cardiac arrest od'ing on nic before I got any throat hit. I might try the heavy throat hit salts but the smooth and the signature are definitely not my bag. I have a 1L bottle of 6mg and another of 8mg 30/70 that are awesome. Made up some "Thug Juice" (grape and menthol) last night and ripped through 20mls in the last 14 hours. Thug Juice resets my taste buds. Harsh but awesome.
Cool I'll keep that in mind...I may be like you, I'm not sure to be honest. I sometimes want to keep vaping for flavor but my throat gets scratchy, so that's why I think I may like the smoothness. But then again when I'm stressed, the throat hit's pretty nice. So gotta experiment a bit to see how I really feel.
 

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If you decide you like the salts I have a full 250ml bottle of 100mg.ml of the signature that I would be willing to part with. Evidently I like throat hit a lot. If you are a 18-24mg+ vapes and are sick of your juice tasting like nicotine death the salts are for you. If you are chasing traditional thought hit it's not. I'm pretty sure I would go into cardiac arrest od'ing on nic before I got any throat hit. I might try the heavy throat hit salts but the smooth and the signature are definitely not my bag. I have a 1L bottle of 6mg and another of 8mg 30/70 that are awesome. Made up some "Thug Juice" (grape and menthol) last night and ripped through 20mls in the last 14 hours. Thug Juice resets my taste buds. Harsh but awesome.
I am like you, Tom. I crave the solid jolt of a good hit. I can't do high VG, smooth nicotine or anything else that will interfere with that throat hit.

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Cool I'll keep that in mind...I may be like you, I'm not sure to be honest. I sometimes want to keep vaping for flavor but my throat gets scratchy, so that's why I think I may like the smoothness. But then again when I'm stressed, the throat hit's pretty nice. So gotta experiment a bit to see how I really feel.

Might be worth looking into the ingredients to see if there is something in common causing your throat irritation. Those containing citric acid bother me if I vape more than half a bottle. I know people who get the same reaction from sweetener or vanilla's.
 

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Might be worth looking into the ingredients to see if there is something in common causing your throat irritation. Those containing citric acid bother me if I vape more than half a bottle. I know people who get the same reaction from sweetener or vanilla's.
Nah it's nicotine. I vape unflavored half the time and run into the same thing when I vape a lot. Good thought though.
 

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Im gonna order flavor and a small batch of nic from heartland. They have tfa, cappella , flavorart, and alot more high end flavors. Prices are low imo. Im gonna try liquidbarn nic also

If you like Throat-Hit(TH) Heartland is real good, I've never tasted the "pepper" others have reported, never tasted it in the Wizard Labs either. I haven't tried the NN Nicotine yet, though I have a liter stored in my freezer, currently I'm using My Freedom Smokes(MFS) Nicotine and it's a bit less on the TH, it's noticeable.

Rayoniti, I've been adding ~5% saline solution to my VG/PG base and find it reduces scratchiness and dryness considerably.

As for Flavorings, I use Bull City & MFS regularly, and have liked the Heartland offerings as well, I get my PG & VG from Essential Depot, and just received two gallons of the VG since I was down to ~1 liter...
 

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If you like Throat-Hit(TH) Heartland is real good, I've never tasted the "pepper" others have reported, never tasted it in the Wizard Labs either. I haven't tried the NN Nicotine yet, though I have a liter stored in my freezer, currently I'm using My Freedom Smokes(MFS) Nicotine and it's a bit less on the TH, it's noticeable.

Rayoniti, I've been adding ~5% saline solution to my VG/PG base and find it reduces scratchiness and dryness considerably.

As for Flavorings, I use Bull City & MFS regularly, and have liked the Heartland offerings as well, I get my PG & VG from Essential Depot, and just received two gallons of the VG since I was down to ~1 liter...
Hmm I've heard some others say they add saline as well and that it even enhances flavor in some cases. Curious now. Where do you get your saline solution, do you make it?
 

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Hmm I've heard some others say they add saline as well and that it even enhances flavor in some cases. Curious now. Where do you get your saline solution, do you make it?
Don't try to make your own .. it has problems no matter what type of salt you use.
What I use:
In the First Aid section of the pharmacy, pick up some .9% Saline (Wound Wash/Flush).
It's used to clean out open wounds .. safe for a baby.
It's pure sterile water with .9% saline solution, and comes in a spray can.
It comes out of the can in a stream that is easy to direct into a dripper bottle.

I add about 1 drop per 2ml. to my juice.
It brings out the flavor (just like salt does in cooking), ... it smooth's out the harshness (maybe the bitterness you pick up on), .. and blends the flavors together.
It works especially good with fruits and chocolates.
You will not taste any salt, as it's super mild.
It will "brighten" the flavor of the fruit, but I find it doesn't help banana :p

There is also a saline solution you spray/inhale up your nose ..but that's the wrong one.
It has added ingredients.

You want the one without anything in it except the .09 saline and water, that is used to clean wounds.
Have fun experimenting.
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Apple Cider Vinegar works (changes the PH) with the Tobacco's and "Darks"
Yep .. found in the kitchen .. some like the "White" instead of the Apple Cider.
You won't taste the cider or saline in the juice, but they make big changes, and are great additives to experiment with.

You can also add a drop or two per 3ml of a tobacco.
Use one that is super mild like: Smooth, ..7 leaves,.. or Liquid Gold
It will give the juice "body", and brings the flavors together .. you won't taste the tobacco either.

Just mix up some small 2ml tests (with your juice) and compare them to each other, to see which one you like the best.
Have fun in the "science lab"
 

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If you like Throat-Hit(TH) Heartland is real good, I've never tasted the "pepper" others have reported, never tasted it in the Wizard Labs either. I haven't tried the NN Nicotine yet, though I have a liter stored in my freezer, currently I'm using My Freedom Smokes(MFS) Nicotine and it's a bit less on the TH, it's noticeable.

Rayoniti, I've been adding ~5% saline solution to my VG/PG base and find it reduces scratchiness and dryness considerably.

As for Flavorings, I use Bull City & MFS regularly, and have liked the Heartland offerings as well, I get my PG & VG from Essential Depot, and just received two gallons of the VG since I was down to ~1 liter...
I got a 50ml of 100mg/ml nic from nn and mixed up a batch of bronuts(chocolate glazed donut) and there is zero nic taste , its good nic , i vape high vg , dessert flavors , 3mg, and i cant stand peppery nic. Im gonna try the smooth salts.
 

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Don't try to make your own .. it has problems no matter what type of salt you use.
What I use:
In the First Aid section of the pharmacy, pick up some .9% Saline (Wound Wash/Flush).
It's used to clean out open wounds .. safe for a baby.
It's pure sterile water with .9% saline solution, and comes in a spray can.
It comes out of the can in a stream that is easy to direct into a dripper bottle.

I add about 1 drop per 2ml. to my juice.
It brings out the flavor (just like salt does in cooking), ... it smooth's out the harshness (maybe the bitterness you pick up on), .. and blends the flavors together.
It works especially good with fruits and chocolates.
You will not taste any salt, as it's super mild.
It will "brighten" the flavor of the fruit, but I find it doesn't help banana :p

There is also a saline solution you spray/inhale up your nose ..but that's the wrong one.
It has added ingredients.

You want the one without anything in it except the .09 saline and water, that is used to clean wounds.
Have fun experimenting.
********************************************
Apple Cider Vinegar works (changes the PH) with the Tobacco's and "Darks"
Yep .. found in the kitchen .. some like the "White" instead of the Apple Cider.
You won't taste the cider or saline in the juice, but they make big changes, and are great additives to experiment with.

You can also add a drop or two per 3ml of a tobacco.
Use one that is super mild like: Smooth, ..7 leaves,.. or Liquid Gold
It will give the juice "body", and brings the flavors together .. you won't taste the tobacco either.

Just mix up some small 2ml tests (with your juice) and compare them to each other, to see which one you like the best.
Have fun in the "science lab"

I haven't tried saline yet, but I do use Apple Cider Vinegar in several of my recipes.
 

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Hmm I've heard some others say they add saline as well and that it even enhances flavor in some cases. Curious now. Where do you get your saline solution, do you make it?

I make my own and never had any issues, what Slots said is easier/ convenient, I use the Saline in my synthetic tobacco's, fruits & dessert flavors & Apple-Cider Vinegar without any saline for my extracted tobacco's.
 

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I am like you, Tom. I crave the solid jolt of a good hit. I can't do high VG, smooth nicotine or anything else that will interfere with that throat hit.

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Yep, me too. It's aaaall about the TH. Been experimenting with some more aggressive mints and spices to try and replicate the nic effect that way. Not trying to cut out the nic for any other reason than the cost (especially in this country). The most effective replacement, though? Higher PG. Old school.
 
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