Cloud chasing and sub ohm foolishness

[erebel]

Wow! 27 pages of pure rhetoric! Glad you folks could help keep me from blowing my face off. I'll go somewhere else and actually get some advice now. You can put your giant mods back in your pants now oh, and don't get your mods caught in your zipper you might cause a direct ground and blow your batts up. Hey, one can hope!

 

[Rocketpunk]

This has gone on to 27 pages, but I think the general consensus is:

Newbs. Don't attempt these things without a thorough knowledge of what you're doing (if this statement befuddles you for even a fraction of a second, you're not ready..)

If you bought your first e-cig a few weeks ago, and boy oh boy, you're ready for an rba or RSST, do your flippin' research. Don't envy huge plumes. That's not what vaping is about.

Don't get suckered into the "MOST BIGGEST CLOUD!" mentality.

All of you know the juvenile logic behind that reasoning.

 

[minimalsaint]

Wow! 27 pages of pure rhetoric! Glad you folks could help keep me from blowing my face off. I'll go somewhere else and actually get some advice now. You can put your giant mods back in your pants now oh, and don't get your mods caught in your zipper you might cause a direct ground and blow your batts up. Hey, one can hope!

That was hurtful.

 

[xEtherized]

I've only been vaping for about a month now. Never even owned a EGO twist or a VW or anything. I didn't start at the bottom I dove straight into the sub-ohm world. I was in my mancave for like 3 days researching on this stuff, learned all about batteries, mastered ohms law, learned about resistance wires, etc. I went all the way down to .3 ohms but I found a happy medium with a single coil at 0.6-0.8 ohms.

I'm not dead. Just here blowing clouds while you guys argue about this nonsense. If you short out you did something wrong. You didn't do your math right or you just kept vaping when the mod obviously got heated, it's common sense to put it down.

Stop bashing on people for wanting to sub-ohm. If they do it wrong and kill themselves that's on them, pretty sure they knew what they were in for.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Please don't assume everyone will get it the same way you do. The biggest factor is people who have no idea what they're doing, doing something that could potentially ruin their lives in horrible ways, just because they want to blow bigger clouds than the next guy.

Is this too dense a concept for people to understand? All of the posters here have hammered out consistent rules. But yet no one seems to grasp the simple, simple, SIMPLE fact:

If you know what you are doing, go ahead and do it, assuming you're factoring the risks involved and acting accordingly (in other words, being a mature adult).

If you're new to the whole e-cig scene and electronics in general, and you're just wanting to quit, you might consider dropping the RBA nonsense. Please believe me, this isn't worth it (unless you know what you're doing!)

Every concept has exclusive clubs. Please don't feel like "being a part of them" will make you feel any better.

I've only been vaping for about a month now. Never even owned a EGO twist or a VW or anything. I didn't start at the bottom I dove straight into the sub-ohm world. I was in my mancave for like 3 days researching on this stuff, learned all about batteries, mastered ohms law, learned about resistance wires, etc. I went all the way down to .3 ohms but I found a happy medium with a single coil at 0.6-0.8 ohms.

I'm not dead. Just here blowing clouds while you guys argue about this nonsense. If you short out you did something wrong. You didn't do your math right or you just kept vaping when the mod obviously got heated, it's common sense to put it down.

Stop bashing on people for wanting to sub-ohm. If they do it wrong and kill themselves that's on them, pretty sure they knew what they were in for.

 

[Rickajho]

Stop bashing on people for wanting to sub-ohm. If they do it wrong and kill themselves that's on them, pretty sure they knew what they were in for.

Uh - no. And that's exactly the point of concern.

 

[Butters78]

Wow! 27 pages of pure rhetoric! Glad you folks could help keep me from blowing my face off. I'll go somewhere else and actually get some advice now. You can put your giant mods back in your pants now oh, and don't get your mods caught in your zipper you might cause a direct ground and blow your batts up. Hey, one can hope!

Oh this reminds me of that old ......... vaper thread.

 

[xEtherized]

Please don't assume everyone will get it the same way you do. The biggest factor is people who have no idea what they're doing, doing something that could potentially ruin their lives in horrible ways, just because they want to blow bigger clouds than the next guy.

Is this too dense a concept for people to understand? All of the posters here have hammered out consistent rules. But yet no one seems to grasp the simple, simple, SIMPLE fact:

If you know what you are doing, go ahead and do it, assuming you're factoring the risks involved and acting accordingly (in other words, being a mature adult).

If you're new to the whole e-cig scene and electronics in general, and you're just wanting to quit, you might consider dropping the RBA nonsense. Please believe me, this isn't worth it (unless you know what you're doing!)

Every concept has exclusive clubs. Please don't feel like "being a part of them" will make you feel any better.

Uhh hello we're on the same side here. I don't want anyone to die just as much as you do. I don't think I'm better than anyone just cause I know how to subohm oooo.

I'm just saying people need to stop bashing on the ones who are interested in subohming. Instead of knocking them to the curb why don't we just help each other out before someone blows their head off. That's what the forum is for anyway. Of course these "newbies" may not know anything but if we help em atleast we are making it safer for them to pursue.

 

[The Ocelot]

That was hurtful.

Clean up in aisle 4.

 

[Rocketpunk]

It seems like these kiddos just aren't getting it.

We've all said our piece.

But this seems to be going in circles, so peace out, what.

 

[Lessifer]

I've only been vaping for about a month now. Never even owned a EGO twist or a VW or anything. I didn't start at the bottom I dove straight into the sub-ohm world. I was in my mancave for like 3 days researching on this stuff, learned all about batteries, mastered ohms law, learned about resistance wires, etc. I went all the way down to .3 ohms but I found a happy medium with a single coil at 0.6-0.8 ohms.

I'm not dead. Just here blowing clouds while you guys argue about this nonsense. If you short out you did something wrong. You didn't do your math right or you just kept vaping when the mod obviously got heated, it's common sense to put it down.

Stop bashing on people for wanting to sub-ohm. If they do it wrong and kill themselves that's on them, pretty sure they knew what they were in for.

Most of us aren't bashing on sub-ohm vaping, we just want people to do what you did and learn how to do it first. Good job!

 

[Baditude]

Uhh hello we're on the same side here. I don't want anyone to die just as much as you do. I don't think I'm better than anyone just cause I know how to subohm oooo.

I'm just saying people need to stop bashing on the ones who are interested in subohming. Instead of knocking them to the curb why don't we just help each other out before someone blows their head off. That's what the forum is for anyway. Of course these "newbies" may not know anything but if we help em atleast we are making it safer for them to pursue.

If you had been involved in this thread from the beginning, you'd see that most of those "against sub ohms" only disapprove of new vapors who start out using them without researching them first, without educating themselves on the proper batteries to use, and without learning to use a multimeter to measure the resistance accurately, which YOU DID. Yea! for you, YOU did it right.

Then there are the others here who are ok with newbs jumping into sub ohm without doing the research and self-education, let them learn under fire, seeming to think they will somehow magically figure it out for themselves that they don't have the right batteries or other gear by simply getting a poor vape or shorting their battery.

They don't believe that there are vendors selling already set up RBAs with sub ohm coils to inexperienced vapors. They assume EVERYONE who decides to try sub ohm already know which batteries are safe to use. They don't believe any battery can hard-short and cause enough damage to be considered dangerous to the user.

I'm sorry, but this mindset just blows my mind. How likely is this to happen? Who knows, but if an uneducated person is using the cheapest no-name batteries he could find from Ebay, his chances of having a battery event increases proponentially using sub ohms.

This is the gist of the situation here. Few here are bashing those who use sub ohm if they truly believe they know what they are doing and accept the responsibility. We're just expressing concerns for the ignorant who see an RBA as no more complicated than a clearomizer.

 

[dhughey]

After reading some, not all of this, maybe we should start a thread for sub ohm. Maybe Sub-Ohm education thread, and refer all the people new to sub ohm to that thread. You know, include basics that you must know before you delve into the sub ohm. I just think that "required reading" may help everyone that wants to try this...

 

[Baditude]

After reading some, not all of this, maybe we should start a thread for sub ohm. Maybe Sub-Ohm education thread, and refer all the people new to sub ohm to that thread. You know, include basics that you must know before you delve into the sub ohm. I just think that "required reading" may help everyone that wants to try this...

ah hum... <cough>

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/4454-7-advice-tips-vapors-looking-try-their-first-rba.html "Advice and Tips for Vapors Looking to Try Their First RBA"

Feel free to add further comments or additional useful information as you please in the comments section.

 

[dhughey]

lol.. thanks
I guess what i meant was a new thread with the words "sub ohm" in the title, so it would come up in a search and what not..
I was just offering suggestions, but nothing is going to stop someone from doing what they want. Personally I watched 817 videos before i built my first rba (aga) and then f'd it up and watched another 300 videos. After building every rba rda i could get my hands on, then i tried the sub ohm and micro coil (which i still havent gotten right). But I knew a lot more than i did when i started. But some people are just going to wrap that sucker and put some heat on it.

 

[DC2]

Maybe if you can't do a Plane Trip then you could head up Chapman and go thru the Canyon, Turn Left at Cook's Corner and follow the road to O'Neal Park.

Nice time of year to Kick Back under an Oak Tree and Relax on a Thursday Afternoon.

Last time we went to O'Neill Park my wife nearly sat on a rattlesnake.

 

[DC2]

Have you ever been to Crystal Cove Beach?

Nice Beach because you have to Pay to Park. So a Lot of the Riff Raff didn't use to Frequent it.

Never actually been to Crystal Cove, but I've eaten at Ruby's Shake Shack a time or two.

 

[DC2]

As a kid I used to body surf The Wedge...surprised I can still walk sometimes.

I've only been tubed once in my entire life, and it was at the Wedge.

 

[DC2]

To continue the analogy, the issue isn't with someone who hears about deep fried turkey, looks up a recipe, buys the right equipment, and learns how to do it properly. The issue is with someone who watches a commercial about a deep fried turkey, then says "Hey! I can do that," and drops a frozen turkey in a pot of hot oil on their stove.

Also, there are enough new vapers trying it out for it to be a concern. Almost all of the ones who post here are looking for info, that's a good thing. For every one that posts though, I'd wager there are hundreds who don't know this place exists, and if no one is teaching them; there will be problems.

And to the OP's point, I have no clue what the deal is with cloud chasing. I tweak my coils to get the best vape I can, which doesn't include instantly exhaling to see a giant cloud. I want that vapor/nic/flavor, it's mine.

And so the thread was ended, as the wisdom had been provided.

 

[DC2]

Even though the thread is now ended, I have to ask...

If you vape sub-ohm, can you tell me why?
Seriously, that's all I want to know.