Cloupor Mini Mod 30W

[Flapstick]

Hello, Ilikecoffee.

Please let me reassert a few undeniable facts:
1. All products will have faulty units, irrespective of their type, brand or quality control. This applies to trains, planes (and let's include here space shuttles) and automobiles, Swiss watches or washing machines. But especially to electronics. It's the very reason for which that little thing called warranty exists. One can look at warranty cards as written admissions of possible fail.
2. There's no such thing as ”truth”, everything is perception. That is, regardless how high in quality an actual product (or brand) really is, there will always be people who will perceive it negatively. Not just the haters.
3. Dirty competition is real, it's working and it relies mainly on what is known as crowd psychology. You know, ”a fool throws a rock in the lake and ten wise men aren't able to pull it out” sort of thing.
4. Cloupor mini bashing started long before the device even hit the market. Basically the very day it was announced. It has only gotten worse since then, despite having mostly rave reviews (I have yet to see a negative one).

Now, some people are easier to freak out than others - and this is also an indisputable fact. And that's OK, it's human nature.
But please stop spreading assertions like ”this is a potentially dangerous and life threatening” - that's meaningless and it will only disseminate the BS.

A brick is potentially dangerous and life threatening. Hell, so is life itself.

 

[crxess]

Q/C, based on Cloupor's own feedback here, is very poor standards. No way would this kind of claimed mess up (they claim wrong boards put in) would have happened at Innokin or Kangertech's factories.

- M.

They Claim in their broken english - Faulty IC chips i.e. a board component. again if they purchase built boards and the Q.C. pull test GOOD, not way to predict the future.
Innokin I have no experience.
Kanger, as much as I use and like their products, has had several Manufacturing issues.
Protank1 - assembly failure
Protank1 mini - assembly failure
Subtank - Insulator material
to name a Few

It is part of Manufacturing.

Backup Punt and take a good look at the Auto Industry for Defects/Recalls. Plenty of potentially Deadly issues.

 

[Ilikecoffee]

Now, some people are easier to freak out than others - and this is also an indisputable fact. And that's OK, it's human nature.
But please stop spreading assertions like ”this is a potentially dangerous and life threatening” - that's meaningless and it will only disseminate the BS.

I stand by what you bolded above. As mentioned in a previous post, part of my income is derived from troubleshooting and improving manufactured goods. I have a certain amount of experience using products in real life scenarios that some (not everyone) might use said products for. I've developed a skill set to see how people would potentially use a product that either the manufacturer, or 50-95% of the consumer public wouldn't normally think of, but otherwise isn't outside the realm of "normal use".

Dangerous or life threatening - just a couple of examples off the top of my head.
- forgetting / leaving the boxmod on your car's back seat while at work, where other papers and combustible materials may be (or the cloth fabric is old and covered with work grease or something). Come back to a burned out wreck.
- Deciding to use your car's cigarette lighter / usb to charge the box mod while at dinner. Again, see last point.
- Friday evening, after work, dog tired, laying on the couch, leave your boxmod on the stack of bills from this past week that you just went through reading, and fall asleep. Poof.
- Boxmod falls in between the cushions of your couch as you get up and do other things. Poof.
- Boxmod put on table, falls over from the dog bumping said table, falls on those lacy drapes your wife loves (and how they bunch at the floor). Poof.

If even 1 out of 1000 of the Cloupor minis is a fire hazard because of a specific manufacturing defect (not a random one, but a specific mistake made by Cloupor in the manufacturing), then that's one too many.

A mistake you appear to be making, and the other folks diminishing the worry about this product seem to be making is that a) you think everyone does and acts like you do, b) no way would anyone leave the boxmod where it could pose a danger, c) assume the vast majority of the folks buying this boxmod have read through the 100s of posts in this thread (and other threads and reddit posts etc etc) and know there's even a problem with this box mod, or that it should only be used a certain way, or that only specific batteries should be used with it, or that you should never charge it with the USB port, or etc etc.

This is a potentially dangerous and life threatening product, and Cloupor has to be extremely on top of this, and being pro-active instead of being wishy washy, providing a variety of excuses and "hey, don't use it this way", and stating well, if you bought it from one online store, you're SOL. Honestly, they should probably consider a recall at this point, until they get all the potentially dangerous units back. So far, they aren't inspiring confidence.

- M

PS a few of you seem set to defend Cloupor here. May I make a suggestion - contact the company and offer to be their English language translator and "voice" so at the very least their communiques can be a bit more clear and straightforward.

 

[Fergie]

Do you have a Mini Ilikecoffee or any Cloupor products ?

You mike like this thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...scussion/645747-cloupor-mini-caught-fire.html

 

[janne303]

I stand by what you bolded above. As mentioned in a previous post, part of my income is derived from troubleshooting and improving manufactured goods. I have a certain amount of experience using products in real life scenarios that some (not everyone) might use said products for. I've developed a skill set to see how people would potentially use a product that either the manufacturer, or 50-95% of the consumer public wouldn't normally think of, but otherwise isn't outside the realm of "normal use".

Dangerous or life threatening - just a couple of examples off the top of my head.
- forgetting / leaving the boxmod on your car's back seat while at work, where other papers and combustible materials may be (or the cloth fabric is old and covered with work grease or something). Come back to a burned out wreck.
- Deciding to use your car's cigarette lighter / usb to charge the box mod while at dinner. Again, see last point.
- Friday evening, after work, dog tired, laying on the couch, leave your boxmod on the stack of bills from this past week that you just went through reading, and fall asleep. Poof.
- Boxmod falls in between the cushions of your couch as you get up and do other things. Poof.
- Boxmod put on table, falls over from the dog bumping said table, falls on those lacy drapes your wife loves (and how they bunch at the floor). Poof.

If even 1 out of 1000 of the Cloupor minis is a fire hazard because of a specific manufacturing defect (not a random one, but a specific mistake made by Cloupor in the manufacturing), then that's one too many.

A mistake you appear to be making, and the other folks diminishing the worry about this product seem to be making is that a) you think everyone does and acts like you do, b) no way would anyone leave the boxmod where it could pose a danger, c) assume the vast majority of the folks buying this boxmod have read through the 100s of posts in this thread (and other threads and reddit posts etc etc) and know there's even a problem with this box mod, or that it should only be used a certain way, or that only specific batteries should be used with it, or that you should never charge it with the USB port, or etc etc.

This is a potentially dangerous and life threatening product, and Cloupor has to be extremely on top of this, and being pro-active instead of being wishy washy, providing a variety of excuses and "hey, don't use it this way", and stating well, if you bought it from one online store, you're SOL. Honestly, they should probably consider a recall at this point, until they get all the potentially dangerous units back. So far, they aren't inspiring confidence.

- M

PS a few of you seem set to defend Cloupor here. May I make a suggestion - contact the company and offer to be their English language translator and "voice" so at the very least their communiques can be a bit more clear and straightforward.

Ps Then you need to get rid of all electronic equipment...

 

[SS stingray]

I don't get it ?

Why people come to this thread and bash the mini when they don't even own one ............

 

[Flapstick]

I'm not defending Cloupor.
I'm not even saying there are no faulty minis.

What I am saying is:
1. The danger posed by the faulty units is already blown way out of proportion.
2. Over prudence, ignorance, hate, panic and/or hysteria are fueling #1, creating a self-sustaining vicious circle that needs to be broken.

There simply isn't enough combustible material inside a mini to produce a significantly threatening open fire.
Yeah, a melted circuit board is a bummer, something obviously undesirable, but that's what warranty is for.

Nature and life in themselves are dangerous (and ”life-threatening”) - any man-made product is even more so.

For the translator job, I'd gladly take it. Even if I'm Romanian, I'd say I'm quite proficient in English. Let the offers flow!

 

[Fergie]

I don't get it ?

Why people come to this thread and bash the mini when they don't even own one ............

To much coffee perhaps.

 

[bmarley5780]

I love my mini! Will be getting another soon.

 

[KTMRider]

I stand by what you bolded above.

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This is a potentially dangerous and life threatening product, and Cloupor has to be extremely on top of this, and being pro-active instead of being wishy washy, providing a variety of excuses and "hey, don't use it this way", and stating well, if you bought it from one online store, you're SOL. Honestly, they should probably consider a recall at this point, until they get all the potentially dangerous units back. So far, they aren't inspiring confidence.

- M

PS a few of you seem set to defend Cloupor here. May I make a suggestion - contact the company and offer to be their English language translator and "voice" so at the very least their communiques can be a bit more clear and straightforward.

You bring up some valid points. The warnings are out there and a lot of vendors have already pulled the product and are refunding sold units. I say let Darwin sort out the rest.

 

[Elyptic]

I really was trying to stay out of this discussion for the most part...

I guess I'm confused why people are so angry about this. To be clear, i don't believe that it's okay that there are melting units. That's not my point at all. But at what point did we decide that the consumer has to expect everything in life to work without failure? I've had coffee makers melt down, toasters catch fire and microwaves letting out some serious smoke. Was I upset? Sure. But did that stop me from buying a replacement? No.

We vape at our own risk. Granted, this risk is much lower than when we smoked analogs, so that's an acceptable risk for me and pretty much everyone here I can assume (or else why are we here). Many of us drive cars and there have been tons of recalls for potentially life threatening issues lately. I've spent years of my life flying and living out of hotels. There's risk in flying, and there's risk of staying at hotels (think the bedbug scares). I've walked in large cities and there is always the risk of getting hit by a passing motorist, or any number of nasty things that can happen.

In all of these cases, we try our best to minimize risk to levels that we find acceptable. Shouldn't the same thing be going on here?

For example, I remove the battery from my mini at night. For me, this is a chance to throw it on the charger, so it's not really an inconvenience -- I'd have to do it anyway. I don't leave my mods in the car for numerous reasons, so it's usually within reach all day, even at work.

For me, I'm still comfortable using this mod. It's passed the 15 second test (for what it's worth), but until Cloupor can come up with more data, I'm going to continue using my mini with a level of caution. To be fair, I also remove the batteries from my mech mod, and my VaporShark every night too.

If you don't feel comfortable with the level of risk associated with the mini, don't use it.

There. I've said it. And now I'll go back to posting more useful information!

 

[Croak]

Couldn't resist

 

[KurrptSenate]

can't see China ever recalling these

 

[gmoney$]

In scanning the available info about CM failures, I noticed one or two that reported detectable battery drain as a precursor to chip failure/meltdown. It's pretty obvious given that an overheating board would definitely be consuming a bunch of battery power. But while we're keeping an eye on CM units, removing batterys at night, etc., we might also maintain a good feel for our battery status and watch out/take action if any sudden drop in battery levels is detected.

 

[janne303]

another one and now after 9 days (im censored....)

 

[Texasbox]

Says invalid link

Sent from the dust in front of you!

 

[janne303]

The forum seems not like my link... Tried again.... Seems like it censored all links with vapor in it

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[phonedude]

I just received mine in the mail today and I love this little mod. I sure hope it don't catch fire.

I will keep my eye on it.

 

[Fergie]

The forum seems not like my link... Tried again.... Seems like it censored all links with vapor in it

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VJ's site yeah.

 

[janne303]

VJ's site yeah.

Exactly that one! Haha

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