I have always associated the eGo name with Joye. I read countless numbers of topics in this section and only a few relate to Joye products. In fact when I go to various B & M's, they have eGo written all over the walls but everything looks like knock off Joye batts and hundreds of different branded clearomizers. If you go to the Joye website, they have only recently started carrying a clearomizer, not plastic but metal and they use the type A atty, called the CC. I've also never had any of the issues with the Joye products that most people have with all of the eGo branded stuff. I even saw a batt that was called an eGo C. From what I understand, the batts had the eGo T originally to go with the Joye tank system, then they came out with a changeable atty that they called the eGo C and updated the name on the battery. Is someone just blatantly ripping off the Joye brand? Seems to me that the knockoff products are the ones that have most if the issues.