Consistancy of Quality...Cartomizers

[Haytoni]

I don't think there is an actual answer for the question, and believe me, I have tried to sort it out.

They all have the same guts inside....and I've never been able to come up to a real conclusion.

However anybody with experience in 3 piece designs will know the "atomizer struggle". Atomizer life span is NOT predictable. Some fizzle out after a week, some are still going a year later. Even the most experienced 510 user will never be able to master just where and when the beloved atomizer will die.

It's like the caramilk secret, but it's the nature of the beast.

We've also all got in on the ground floor of vaping, so who knows what improvements are around the corner.

I agree with you, and like you say we are the pioneers. Manufacturers are taking note, and I seem to think they are working on bigger and better ones........Lets just hope the government doesn't step in and make our life miserable. This is a good forum, I have learned a lot from all of the posters. Thank You
Toni

 

[Adrenalynn]

Have you ever tested "disposable" batteries? Duracell batteries and Energizers fluctuate severely in consistency, but we just accept this.

It's funny you mention this. I just opened a package of Morningstar Farms "sausage" patties (vegetarian meat replacement) - I dearly adore them, one of my favorite foods in the world, especially during cycling season - but I digress - anyway, there's three packs of two patties in a box. Only this time, there was two packs of two and one pack of one. All nicely factory sealed plastic and all. Just short a burger.

In theory, that shouldn't be possible. A computerized scale weighs every individual pack, and then again weighs the box - all at lightning speed with reasonably well-trained humans over-seeing the process. But guess what? Theory blows. They process a bazillion of those things an instant and some fraction of a fraction of a percent still fail.

This isn't the first time I've seen it. In the last ten years it's happened to me a few times. And they always send me some crate-load of coupons when I send them the bottom flap with the run information. [I didn't realize they're Kraft Foods until the first time I sent them a letter]. It's $0.67/patty, so - much like a cartomizer, it's not the end of the world.

If Kraft Foods with infinite dollars invested into infinite technology and limitless QA can't catch _every_ one... well... Where does that leave this? It leaves this looking like it's pretty darned good, IMHO.

 

[Katya]

I was trying to say something naughty and it was the first thing that came to mind...lol.

Don't hold it against me.

I just was typing a very clever response to your post but my house started shaking and I had to run outside. By the time i came back, my post was erased! Yeah, we had a big one. Life in Southern California!

Just for the record, I had some cartos that burned before I had a chance to refill them--I'm talking after 20, maybe 30, drags. Now I'm vigilant; I open each cartomizer prior to vaping, make sure the center post is indeed centered and that there is enough juice inside to begin with. I had some (factory) underfilled and some overfilled cartos. Others seemed old/dry so I added several drops of juice before I even started vaping, just to be on the safe side. They are not perfect and we should all take necessary precautions. As Born says, refill early and refill often. And look inside! It really helps!

 

[Adrenalynn]

I just was typing a very clever response to your post but my house started shaking and I had to run outside. By the time i came back, my post was erased! Yeah, we had a big one. Life in Southern California!

Nothing too big in LA (3.2/3.4 probably a lot of aftershocks), but Baja/Mexicali is taking a pounding!

Where abouts are you? San Diego? Palm Springs?
Here's the hotzone of activity yesterday/today:

Kinda miss having left the Bay Area. I don't get 'em anymore.

 

[Katya]

Southern Orange County. It felt worse than it actually was here, if you know what I mean. This sickening, nauseating roll, made me shake all over for some 15 minutes afterwards. Now I just have a headache. But bad enough to grab the dog and run outside. I normally just sit'em out. And a couple of aftershocks.

 

[lizziebith]

In L.A., we felt a very long one, roooollling and rolling, just as Katya described -- we all felt seasick for a good while afterward (it was the big Baja 7.2 one we felt).

I have the USGS site bookmarked -- submitted my "did you feel it" report.

 

[jdvorr]

This was an enjoyable read.

 

[Adrenalynn]

Southern Orange County. It felt worse than it actually was here, if you know what I mean. This sickening, nauseating roll, made me shake all over for some 15 minutes afterwards. Now I just have a headache. But bad enough to grab the dog and run outside. I normally just sit'em out. And a couple of aftershocks.

Kat - yeah, I've gotcha. Depends on the depth and type. For those surface quakes, the epicenter can be a good long way away and still roll you around. I didn't look at the depth and time for that secondary mag 6 out of Baha, but that's not that far away to feel it.

 

[JohnnyVapor]

Not sure if its anybody being secretive, just more like an acceptable "frustration" that we've all sort of try to pretend it doesn't exist...lol.

North America has mastered batteries, cart mods and juice...but you cannot find one North American based business that can mass produce atomizers that are predictable.

I would liken atomizers to incandescent light bulbs. While they give a standard lifetime on the box, that's just an average. Some lightbulbs will see half that lifetime, while others just don't seem to die for a long time.

On the other hand, I've had great luck with my cartos. I'll have an errant 1% that are DOA out of the box, and maybe around 20% will only refill 3 times, but the majority will go 5 or 10 times, possibly more. I still have a few cartos in rotation that I got with my original V4L order back in October 09.

Instead of wondering what mojo is happening inside these mega cartos, I just wink and grin that I'm totally cheating the system. Ha! Disposable you say? Well, sure, some day they'll be disposed of...

 

[rubberdux13]

I'm new to this... but just had my first burnt cartomizer (actually, 3). They were premiums. Just have to remember to refill more often and early. Still managed to get a week in before they did this, so I'm pretty ok with that.

 

[jazzguy]

Funny - I just opened a box of premium blanks and found 2 of them had the labels on upside down! I like to think of them as 'Premium Customs'.

 

[Adrenalynn]

SuperHyperDuperPremiums

 

[rubberdux13]

Funny - I just opened a box of premium blanks and found 2 of them had the labels on upside down! I like to think of them as 'Premium Customs'.

Lucky dog. People pay good money for those. Definitely a collector's item

 

[Belletrist]

These are not underwear! Do not attempt to put in pants.

i think i need to write this in permanent marker on things everywhere i go. (not for my own benefit, or rather, only for the benefit of making me laugh.)

well, everything 'cept underwear.

 

[Adrenalynn]

i think i need to write this in permanent marker on things everywhere i go. (not for my own benefit, or rather, only for the benefit of making me laugh.)

well, everything 'cept underwear.

I'd advise exactly that. It's all in the name of safety. And not killing polar bears. Safety of non-underwear-wearing-polar-bears.