Convenient store clerk=dealer of death?

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What brand were you smoking? Most gas stations stock the major brands, even the cheap brands. When I smoked, I always asked if the store carried Lucky Strikes (especially if it was a new store that I'd never been to before). If they did, I bought those, no matter how much they cost. If not, I defaulted to Camel Lights. Not a lot of stores in the Dayton, Ohio, area carried Lucky Strikes. The one place that did stopped, and I was sad...

But not anymore!

When I first started this journey, I found a "Lucky Strikes" flavor from MyFreedomSmokes.com. That was nearly a year ago. I may revisit that juice to see how far my palate has changed since those early days.

Virginia Slims 120's Lights non-menthol was my brand with American Spirit tossed in every now and then.
 

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No, I never asked him to stock for me and I understand it was a courtesy of sorts to keep them stocked, and maybe I should have warned him I would no longer be purchasing them - honestly that thought never crossed my mind. I guess my brand is not a best seller and maybe he will end up with a loss. But, I think that's part of owning a retail business. I was not offended so much by him for being upset that he lost revenue, but that he almost seemed as if he thought I did owe him. He was very pushy and rude about the whole thing. The whole experience just rubbed me the wrong way.

Yeah, it sounds like the guy seriously overstepped in your case.

For my part, I had an awkward experience the first time I went into my local convenience store after I quit smoking, but there was no acrimony. The guy just looked a little ... crestfallen when I told him I wasn't interested in cigarettes (or the Blu kit he offered me right afterwards). I can't blame him for regretting the loss of the revenue, but I'd like to think there was more to his disappointment than that; I had been a regular in that store for years, talking with the two dudes who run the place on a near-daily basis.

But on that fateful day, as I milled around inside in search of something worthwhile to buy just for the sake of politeness, I realized how little the store really carries -- sour milk, sour eggs, soda, and lots of junk. No bread. No pet food. All at a price premium. Apart from cigarettes, there's basically nothing I'd want from there. So it's scarcely an exaggeration to say that to quit cigarettes was to sever the relationship. And that's kind of sad.
 

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A convenience store clerk is a convenience store clerk for a day-um good reason... think 'bout it!

I really hate condescending attitudes like this.

What is this day-um good reason we need to think 'bout?

I took a job at Wal-Mart a few years ago as maintenance, which was just their fancy word for janitor. Was there a day-um good reason for me having that job? You're day-um right. It was about the only thing I could get at the time despite having a college degree and a journeyman card as an electrician. In fact, I'm sure the only reason I was able to get that job was because I knew someone working there. If not for that, I would have probably just been passed over because so many jobs don't want to bother hiring someone that's over qualified since they figure they'll leave the second they get a better offer.

They are right though. I didn't even stay a whole week before something finally came up.:p
 

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I've been going to the same convenient store for a while, before I started vaping, but not very often now. I went there tonight to buy beer and the owner was asking me why I don't buy cigarettes there anymore - he asked me if I had quit. I told him yes and he was almost irate with me because he said he expected my patronage on a regular basis and now nothing, and he has my brand of cigarettes in stock with me in mind, and now they just sit there. I can't imagine that my cigarette consumption by any means kept this place in business or affected it more than a fraction of a percentage at most, and really not even that. I told him I was using an electronic cigarette now and he then showed me that he had SNUS and Blu's. I told him I was not interested, but thank you, and I could not help but feeling like this guy was analogous to the clerk of death. I don't say this because he offered to sell me tobacco alternatives, but because he did not even say congratulations for quitting - he simply wanted me to know I affected his bottom line. If he had it his way, I would be smoking, barreling closer towards death, but he would be happy. I know he has his finances to consider and I'm sure a family to support, but it just struck me as sad and disappointing. It reminded me of BT mentality and how people support their families by creating and pushing death for others. As small of a gesture as this is, I won't patronize this store again.

I was just curious if anyone has had a similar revelation or experience.

Thanks for reading!
So this guy thinks he's entitled to your hard earned money huh.
Yeah people are funny :evil:
 

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I think that there are people in this world that get some sort of satisfaction out making other people feel guilty. It's their problem, not yours. So, you just have to take the high road and say that you've appreciated them stocking your brand but things have changed.

Or maybe....he or she was having a bad day. Ya never know.
 

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I'm behind you 1111000% all the way!!!

The ONE THING that will make me completely Hulk out and rage and possibly get banned is when someone condescends another job. I used to be a server in the food service industry for 15 years, and while it is a decent way to make a living, it comes with major baggage. People who have never served/bartended have absolutely NO IDEA what they're talking about when they say, "Oh, you complain about your job, why not get another one?" It is such a narrow-minded view that I literally have to remove myself from the conversation/situation before I seriously blow a gasket. They speak from such blatant ignorance that it immediately inflates my "raaaaar!" sense.

A convenience store job is HARD, it's LONG, and you put yourself in danger of being robbed and other things. Plus they have to deal with YOU (i.e., not you you, but the general populace). The litany of people they have to put up with is heart-breaking, and anyone trashing a convenience store clerk needs to step back, do what they do for even a DAY, then come back, and see what you have to say afterwards.

I really hate condescending attitudes like this.

What is this day-um good reason we need to think 'bout?

I took a job at Wal-Mart a few years ago as maintenance, which was just their fancy word for janitor. Was there a day-um good reason for me having that job? You're day-um right. It was about the only thing I could get at the time despite having a college degree and a journeyman card as an electrician. In fact, I'm sure the only reason I was able to get that job was because I knew someone working there. If not for that, I would have probably just been passed over because so many jobs don't want to bother hiring someone that's over qualified since they figure they'll leave the second they get a better offer.

They are right though. I didn't even stay a whole week before something finally came up.:p
 
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They don't throw them out and the store isn't out anything. The BT companies have marketing rep's that come in at the least monthly. They will take out of date stale stock and replace it or issue the store a credit that goes back to the supplier on the next order. Or if it's corporate owned it goes thru them to the supplier. I was a C-store manager for over 7 years. BT companies have marketing deals with the stores be they Mom and Pop or corp owned. They actually bid against one another for the percent of advertising signage in the store and pay the stores for it.

You're right. Virginia Slims is part of the Marlboro line-up. So, it'll be taken care of. I know we had some odd brands that collected dust though (apparently too off brand to have reps maybe? I don't know.)

So, why was this guy so upset? Because he was slightly inconvenienced by ordering and stocking? Or what?

Oh, well. I almost never go into a convenience store anymore. I pay at the pump and go on my way.



ETA: While I was working at the convenience store, I had a friend who worked at a grocery store. OMG, I would never trade jobs with her! At a convenience store, people are relatively friendly and relaxed. At a grocery store, they are tired, frustrated, and grumpy!
 
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You're right. Virginia Slims is part of the Marlboro line-up. So, it'll be taken care of. I know we had some odd brands that collected dust though (apparently too off brand to have reps maybe? I don't know.)

So, why was this guy so upset? Because he was slightly inconvenienced by ordering and stocking? Or what?

Oh, well. I almost never go into a convenience store anymore. I pay at the pump and go on my way.

I don't know why he was upset. Maybe, as mentioned, he was just having a bad day, maybe he is in the doghouse with his wife, maybe he just heard some horrible news. Could be anything behind it, really. I wasn't going to be rude in response - I just purchased my stuff and went on my way. But, for a moment while getting in the car, it just reminded me of BT mentality.
 

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ETA: While I was working at the convenience store, I had a friend who worked at a grocery store. OMG, I would never trade jobs with her! At a convenience store, people are relatively friendly and relaxed. At a grocery store, they are tired, frustrated, and grumpy!

That was me tonight! I don't do a lot of grocery shopping. Sadly, I eat out a lot.

But when I do grocery shop, it is for my guinea pigs. I always make sure they have red and green leaf lettuce, cilantro, red apples, grapes, and green peppers. It's their nightly salad.

Well, Meijer's re-did their entire produce section and it threw me for a loop. I swear I circled that department for fifteen minutes trying to re-orient myself. I was crabby after my nine-hour shift and I complained that they were out of cilantro (and parsley isn't as healthy for guinea pigs!). Then I complained (to some poor person in meat) that the green peppers were bagged and not available singly. After another five minute stroll I found the green peppers, available singly.

I was humbled, greatly. If only I took the time to look a little harder, I wouldn't have been that guy.

P.S. Guinea pigs. Man. I don't have kids, but I swear, these rodents rule my life......
 

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Sadly, purveyors of alcohol and tobacco sell these products because we as consumers choose to buy them. Clerks in and of themselves are only doing their job. And honestly, we can't truly fault store owners for carrying things the vast majority of
spenders want, whether they're good or bad for us.

I remember going to the gas station for the first time knowing I wasn't going to buy cigarettes. I looked at all those brands stacked up on the back rack, and I remember experiencing the most liberating sense of freedom, almost religious in nature. When the guy who usually ringed me up 0asked me why I wasn't buying cigarettes, I said I had made the switch to electronic cigarettes, and he asked me if I used Blu, too, since they carried it. Nope, I hefted up my baby (then a Vamo at the time) and showed her off. His eyes grew as wide as saucers.

Tru dat! Blaming convenience stores for killing people makes about as much sense as blaming McDonald's for making people fat.

I have not missed constantly having to stop at the gas station/c-store to buy cigs. Neither has my bank account! I always grabbed a fountain soda or snack for me and my kids if they were along. The cigs doubled in price when I added all that other stuff!

I do miss some of the nice people I used to see there all the time, though. And, as a person who adores my "regulars" at my DQ job, it is sad when they don't come around anymore. But I certainly wouldn't get snippy if someone said they won't be coming by anymore because they have diabetes now.
 

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That was me tonight! I don't do a lot of grocery shopping. Sadly, I eat out a lot.

But when I do grocery shop, it is for my guinea pigs. I always make sure they have red and green leaf lettuce, cilantro, red apples, grapes, and green peppers. It's their nightly salad.


P.S. Guinea pigs. Man. I don't have kids, but I swear, these rodents rule my life......


Teehee!
Your piggies eat better than you do! We had a guinea pig that I adopted from the humane society. My daughter had begged for one for years. Her name was Pig. It was a real pain having to have all that special fresh food around all the time. But she was so stinkin' cute!
 

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I was humbled, greatly. If only I took the time to look a little harder, I wouldn't have been that guy.
I used to be that guy. Until I worked on the other side of the counter and saw just how ridiculous it is to get annoyed with people who are underpaid, overworked, and powerless to control all the things that are annoying about the store (like the prices).

It made me feel ashamed of all the times I had been that guy!
 

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Thanks for your input, guys :)

I think it does matter what you sell, but maybe that's just me :2c: We all have to make a living, we all do the best we can, I think, and at the end of the day it's yourself you have to live with and look at in the mirror. I've had what some would consider menial jobs, and done them to the best of my ability and proudly. I've also worked for some well-thought-of employers whom I left over things I was not okay with morally. But, not everyone has that liberty, and I understand that. But, you can also perform a job without being wrong in principle, regardless of what you sell. I just see this particular experience as out of the norm, because most people do not respond this way.
 

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I used to be that guy. Until I worked on the other side of the counter and saw just how ridiculous it is to get annoyed with people who are underpaid, overworked, and powerless to control all the things that are annoying about the store (like the prices).

It made me feel ashamed of all the times I had been that guy!

I hear ya, I've been there.
 

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I had a similar experience with my tobacco/beer shop. Only my interaction was with the owner. He sold me my first Blu. When I stopped coming in for cigarettes and did not buy another Blu disposable and showed him my spinner, he got rather short with me. If I did not know him from going there for cigarettes for a couple of years I would have chalked it up to him being a foreigner. Nope, it was pure, unadulterated attitude. He was not happy I was not buying cigarettes or the Blu from him. Wonder how much they make on those cigarettes and Blu setups. He was probably kicking himself for selling me the Blu.
 

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Our little local store was really happy I quit. They did look at me at first like they weren’t sure I really quit, but they were happy and supportive. This guy was way out of bounds. I’ve run into that type, they act like you should be indebted to them for being allowed to buy something from them priced twice what it costs elsewhere. No thank you.

I had a bit of a crush on a convenience store worker eons ago. He was a college student making ends meet. He was shot and killed by a robber at that store. I only look down on attitude not profession and people can have bad days and handle it with some grace. An ugly attitude is an ugly attitude be it a convenience store clerk or rocket scientist.

Oh, and Rocket Punk is correct, rodents do rule. :lol:
 
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