Consider when sub-ohming, vapor (and it's components) are held in the lungs 5x longer than mouth-to-lung hits.
COPD and Sub Ohm
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I think it's nice that you've found something that works to keep you from smoking.
Vape on Michelle
I heard Dr. Farsolinos tell Dimi from one of his studies.
I think it was part of the formaldehyde controversy.
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Yep vape the way you want to, not how the vape companies and reviewers want you to.
I have been vaping since january and I am vaping at 7-8 watts on a T3S.
Perhaps I am not keeping up with the Rips and Joneses, but i am doing what I like and want to do.
It is also a lot cheaper to not vape in the fast lane.
If you suck in 5 times as much vapor with sub ohming.....
Seems like you increase your risk factor by 5 times.
Vaping cannot be totally safe you know.
Just MUCH safer than smoking.
Seems like you increase your risk factor by 5 times.
Vaping cannot be totally safe you know.
Just MUCH safer than smoking.
It might have been the DA/AP thing, and maybe he said it to Russ.
Soon to be moderated. I'll probably get another yellow card for this, but here you go.
http://www.vapemate.com/E-Liquid-Testing-w-Russ_b_5.html
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Aspire Nautilus Mini.. Can you please help me on this?
I just ordered a Kangxin Mini VF 50W Mod
also, ordered a Cloupor Mini 30 W
I am totally clueless on what I need to buy, to go with these.... I started a thread, but
not getting much help, other than what battery I need... which was very helpful,
I just need to learn more about the other things I need.
I was thinking about the Aspire Nautilus Mini... But, I don't know anything about it..
There are so many different types of tanks and clearomizers and glassomizers.. etc.. etc..
there is sub ohm... and 1.8 ohm... etc.. etc... I don't even know what coils are, and if I will need to buy any.
I am just totally lost on what I need to buy.
I am kind of a wimp... I don't like a strong throat hit.. I mostly want smooth flavor, a LOT of flavor and medium
amount of vapor.
I am starting to order 6mg and 0 nic e-juices. most of them are 50vg/ 50pg
some are 40pg/ 60vg...
Sub-Ohm is not for everyone and you don't need to get into that right now, or even ever. The coils are the heating element around the cotton wicking material that vaporize the juice your wick has soaked up. Most coils last a couple of weeks, so you will need to buy more.
The Aspire Nautilus Mini is a clearomizer rather than a sub ohm tank. It is designed for mouth to lung vaping, which is how cigarettes are typically smoked. This makes it more of a familiar thing when quitting. It has great flavor and good, but not extreme vapor production. It is one of the most popular and best tanks for that kind of vaping, but there are other options out there.
Almost all tanks come with a coil or two to get started and you can buy more, usually in packs of 4 or 5.
In general you want to start with low wattages and work your way up, keeping in mind how much power your coils and batteries can handle.
You will want to watch & read some reviews to get a better idea on any of this stuff.
Hope that helps a little?
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Wouldn't it stand to reason that a mouth-to-lung, at higher nic levels/lower watts, is held for less time than doing a direct lung inhale at lower nic/higher watts?
Thank you so very much for all the extremely helpful information and observations!!! I love this site!
I'm not to sure on your theory there but what she is experiencing is going from a ego to a much larger chimney with larger airflow and larger drip tip, much more efficient deck / wick, even with the 1.5 head it would still produce a much more warmer denser vape much quicker.
I noticed when switching from kanger protank types to subtank nano I had to take it easy and take small puffs until I had gotten used to the huge vapor increase. But I don't have copd and would do as others say just do what's comfortable and works for you.
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No, nothing wrong with it. I was just told the ksubox would give more flavor.
I was a very heavy smoker for many years, see my sig line, I can't handle high VG and I can't handle sub-ohm vaping. If you really like the Subtank, you could use a different coil in it
that is mine running these:
https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/rep...pire-bdc-replacement-coil-heads-5pk-9763.html
I'm using the 1.8Ω Aspire BVC coils at 3.8-4 volts.
I have also used Kanger ProTank 2 coils in the Subtank, and you may be able to get your Aerotank coils to fit, seal, and fire in your Subtank. You,ll want to keep the watts to about 7-8. Good luck to you, and no need for more vapor or higher watt vaping if what your doing was working out for you.
Hey, a PT2 coil really does work. I really thought that would surely leak...it just doesn't seem or look like it could work...but it does.
Hi Michelle and welcome!
First of all, nobody here can tell for sure how safe vaping is if you have COPD. Period. Not even your doc--vaping is a new phenomenon so I recommend using caution (and lots of common sense).
If you can vape without inhaling, like you would smoke a cigar or a pipe, that would be ideal. You don't need vapor in your lungs at all to absorb the nicotine--and you don't want anything in your lungs that might further irritate them.
If you can't do it, try to choose eliquids that are not flavored at all, or at least flavored very lightly, and contain both PG and VG, as PG has been studied for quite some time and proven to be safe for inhalation. Avoid dark, sweet juices and any juices that contain a lot of additives and colorings and known lung irritants like cinnamon, for example. Stay away from juices that contain diketones. Food flavorings and colorings, albeit safe for human consumption, have not been evaluated for safety in inhalation.
Vapor is not just "water vapor". If you want to see some studies about e-cigarette vapor and what it contains, plaese check this compilation from CASAA:
Lab Reports: ecigarettes
Bottom line--the less vapor you inhale, the better, methinks. So, low wattage (6-8 watts per coil), keep your vapor in your mouth and nose (if you can) mostly and avoid inhaling into your lungs if at all possible, try unflavored or lightly flavored (clean and clear juices).
If you like your Subtank, try using it with ProTank 2 or Aspire BVC coils as Enaud suggested. BTW, I'm a low-wattage vaper myself and I treat my Subtank as a low-wattage device (10 watts, usually, and I sip the vapor rather than inhaling it deeply. Works just fine for me.
Or stay with your Aerotanks--they are very nice. You may also enjoy my personal favorite: very good and inexpensive GS Air tanks made by Eleaf. I recommend the GS M and GS Tank. Great flavor tanks.
You may also find this thread helpful:
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/new-here-copd-diagnosed-how-to-vape.482193/
Good luck!
First of all, nobody here can tell for sure how safe vaping is if you have COPD. Period. Not even your doc--vaping is a new phenomenon so I recommend using caution (and lots of common sense).
If you can vape without inhaling, like you would smoke a cigar or a pipe, that would be ideal. You don't need vapor in your lungs at all to absorb the nicotine--and you don't want anything in your lungs that might further irritate them.
If you can't do it, try to choose eliquids that are not flavored at all, or at least flavored very lightly, and contain both PG and VG, as PG has been studied for quite some time and proven to be safe for inhalation. Avoid dark, sweet juices and any juices that contain a lot of additives and colorings and known lung irritants like cinnamon, for example. Stay away from juices that contain diketones. Food flavorings and colorings, albeit safe for human consumption, have not been evaluated for safety in inhalation.
Vapor is not just "water vapor". If you want to see some studies about e-cigarette vapor and what it contains, plaese check this compilation from CASAA:
Lab Reports: ecigarettes
Bottom line--the less vapor you inhale, the better, methinks. So, low wattage (6-8 watts per coil), keep your vapor in your mouth and nose (if you can) mostly and avoid inhaling into your lungs if at all possible, try unflavored or lightly flavored (clean and clear juices).
If you like your Subtank, try using it with ProTank 2 or Aspire BVC coils as Enaud suggested. BTW, I'm a low-wattage vaper myself and I treat my Subtank as a low-wattage device (10 watts, usually, and I sip the vapor rather than inhaling it deeply. Works just fine for me.
Or stay with your Aerotanks--they are very nice. You may also enjoy my personal favorite: very good and inexpensive GS Air tanks made by Eleaf. I recommend the GS M and GS Tank. Great flavor tanks.
You may also find this thread helpful:
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/new-here-copd-diagnosed-how-to-vape.482193/
Good luck!
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As time goes on your lung tissue will repair itself, I would say in the coming months you should see a very noticeable difference in all your senses and breathing, you are probably what most would call a tootle puffer and may ask some of them what devices for better flavor, I'm very proud of you for keeping with the vaping.
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I think that the Subtank produces better flavor than my Aerotanks, but I doubt it has anything to do with sub-ohming/high wattage. My favorite atty for flavor is my Kayfun 4, Tobeco clone, which has much more restricted airflow than any sub-ohm tank. I love my Kayfun at 8-10 watts. But it's an RBA.
Nearly for me...however with the aspire bvc (non nautilis), although the coil screws in the bottom piece does not fully screw on, that's with the subtank nano. Kanger aerotank vocc screws in but again base dos not fit.
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