Coppervape BF Mod

[herb]

And yet some people are reporting problems, not just here on ecf but also on other forums.
I have no issues at all with my battery, build or atty they perform as they should on other mods. I replaced the entire button, firing pin and spring assembly and still it does not hit every time. When it works it has better voltage drop than my other mods, but it just cannot get through a full day without failing to fire and me having to mess with it to get it to work again.

I've been using mech's for a couple of years, so not new to this, I have stripped and cleaned it many times, tried deoxit, adding shims in appropriate places etc. I just can't get it to hit every time. It's got to be down to the engineering tolerances.

Can you point me to links that show Coppervape as having issues with firing in other forums please ? I cannot find any . If there were firing issues with the mod they would definitely be reported on FT , don't see any there either .

Send it back because this seems to be an isolated incident .

 

[herb]

One thing I noticed on my brass CV is that the battery cavity is not perfectly centered ... apparently it was bored slightly offset. It wasn't enough to keep it from working but I do have to make sure the top is aligned properly as there is a little play there.

There is a little play on every single one of them, i was concerned about the play before i bought it but everyone said it was normal .

 

[herb]

And yet some people are reporting problems, not just here on ecf but also on other forums.
I have no issues at all with my battery, build or atty they perform as they should on other mods. I replaced the entire button, firing pin and spring assembly and still it does not hit every time. When it works it has better voltage drop than my other mods, but it just cannot get through a full day without failing to fire and me having to mess with it to get it to work again.

I've been using mech's for a couple of years, so not new to this, I have stripped and cleaned it many times, tried deoxit, adding shims in appropriate places etc. I just can't get it to hit every time. It's got to be down to the engineering tolerances.

The mod doesn't have a firing pin or a spring assembly , it's fool proof , it just has a copper strip some insulators and a screw . Thats why the story of firing problems is impossible to believe (for me) .

Anyways i would say send it back , it's a very inexpensive mod for what you get , if i had one that misfired it would already be in the return process.

 

[herb]

The problem here is that the layer of aluminum oxide forms within minutes after contact with the oxygen in the air. Aluminum oxide is an insulator. This is less of a problem with the battery connection because screwing it in probably cleans enough oxide off to make a good connection. Where the top and bottom come together is a completely different story. You clean it works great. Then it begins to oxidize. Now it doesn't work so great. Rapping it or wiggling the top helps for a while. Putting deoxit or noalox on the surfaces after cleaning prevents the oxide formation and ensures a good connection, and lasts for weeks.
More than you'll ever want to know about oxidation of aluminum:
GDA Home - Alu Encyclopaedia
I have some 12ga copper wire and a tap and die set to thread the wire so it can be screwed into the aluminum body. I'm betting that if I put a piece of copper into the top and bottom and cut them off flush so there is a copper to copper contact it will solve the problem completely.

Please provide pics if you do this .

 

[NGAHaze]

There is a little play on every single one of them, i was concerned about the play before i bought it but everyone said it was normal .

Yes indeed, I have 5 of them ( one in each color and two brass ) and they all have that particular characteristic ( play ). At first it bothered me a little but I quickly got over that given the price point and how well they work.

These are now the devices I carry with me when working or out and about ... well, not the brass ones for obvious reasons but still, it's nice not to have to worry too much about damage, breakage, loss or it 'disappearing'!

 

[Layzee Vaper]

The mod doesn't have a firing pin or a spring assembly , it's fool proof , it just has a copper strip some insulators and a screw . Thats why the story of firing problems is impossible to believe (for me) .

Anyways i would say send it back , it's a very inexpensive mod for what you get , if i had one that misfired it would already be in the return process.

Firing pin = Screw
Spring = Copper Strip

It really does not matter what terminology is used, it has all been replaced.

Can't be bothered with the hassle and cost of sending it back. It works well enough as a backup device.

I understand that you have not experienced any problems, but I and others have.

I can't think of a good reason why I or anyone else would make it up, can you?

 

[junquedujour]

i have a friend that has a version one that either is firing all the time, firing sometimes, but most the time not firing. she got a replacement kit and the problem has not changed. so, no, Layzee Vaper, you are not alone.

 

[zoiDman]

Firing pin = Screw
Spring = Copper Strip

It really does not matter what terminology is used, it has all been replaced.

Can't be bothered with the hassle and cost of sending it back. It works well enough as a backup device.

I understand that you have not experienced any problems, but I and others have.

I can't think of a good reason why I or anyone else would make it up, can you?

i have a friend that has a version one that either is firing all the time, firing sometimes, but most the time not firing. she got a replacement kit and the problem has not changed. so, no, Layzee Vaper, you are not alone.

I don't think there is Any Question that some people have had Problems with their CV's. Just like with Any Mech or Regulated Mod.

It's just with the Design of the CV's Firing Mechanism, I truly believe that Most (if not the Vast Majority) of the problems are because the 510 Pin on their RDA does not protrude Far Enough.

 

[herb]

Firing pin = Screw
Spring = Copper Strip

It really does not matter what terminology is used, it has all been replaced.

Can't be bothered with the hassle and cost of sending it back. It works well enough as a backup device.

I understand that you have not experienced any problems, but I and others have.

I can't think of a good reason why I or anyone else would make it up, can you?

Absolutely i can & it is your responses to peoples questions that have made it very clear to me that the story is bogus , it's possible i am wrong but this particular story is not believable to me .

I would find it much more believable if i saw a copy of receipt or package of the parts kit you say you used when you claimed to replace everything.

It's no big deal , time to move on to other things . Have a good day.

 

[herb]

I don't think there is Any Question that some people have had Problems with their CV's. Just like with Any Mech or Regulated Mod.

It's just with the Design of the CV's Firing Mechanism, I truly believe that Most (if not the Vast Majority) of the problems are because the 510 Pin on their RDA does not protrude Far Enough.

We are not talking about a defective button that can be easily fixed or a RDA with a short 510 , those are brainless fixes and not a mod problem at all .

If someone cannot fix those they shouldn't be using a mechanical mod imo .

What Lazee is saying is all that stuff IS NOT the issue , everything that could possibly be the issue is not the issue according to Layzee thats why it's not believable to me .

 

[sawlight]

Firing pin = Screw
Spring = Copper Strip

It really does not matter what terminology is used, it has all been replaced.

Can't be bothered with the hassle and cost of sending it back. It works well enough as a backup device.

I understand that you have not experienced any problems, but I and others have.

I can't think of a good reason why I or anyone else would make it up, can you?

Where are you located? I'm just outside Wichita KS, you pay shipping both ways, I'll assure you it works right when you get it back!

 

[herb]

I don't think there is Any Question that some people have had Problems with their CV's. Just like with Any Mech or Regulated Mod.

It's just with the Design of the CV's Firing Mechanism, I truly believe that Most (if not the Vast Majority) of the problems are because the 510 Pin on their RDA does not protrude Far Enough.

Thats what i believe but Lazee says "nope" none of those is the issue .

 

[herb]

Where are you located? I'm just outside Wichita KS, you pay shipping both ways, I'll assure you it works right when you get it back!

Good deal , i would of offered to do the same , i wish he would show pics of the underside etc...

If he sends it to you then i would apologize and admit i was wrong .

 

[junquedujour]

lol. well ok then. btw, she has been a bottom feeder for 4-5 years. i also messed with it and could not get it to fire consistently.

 

[puffon]

I don't have a CV yet, but just wondering if the clear coating may have gotten into the negative cap threads.

 

[zoiDman]

We are not talking about a defective button that can be easily fixed or a RDA with a short 510 , those are brainless fixes and not a mod problem at all .

If someone cannot fix those they shouldn't be using a mechanical mod imo .

What Lazee is saying is all that stuff IS NOT the issue , everything that could possibly be the issue is not the issue according to Layzee thats why it's not believable to me .

I'm just Not that Quick to Judge someone on what they Should of Shouldn't be able to do. And the Fact that Most of us Don't is what makes the ECF a Nice Place to be a Part of.

It just Doesn't Effect my Life if someone likes or doesn't like a Mod that I own.

I like my CV's. And would Recommend one to anyone who understands Ohms &Battery Safety who wants to get a Squonking Mod.

But, if someone has one, and for Whatever reason has a Problem, I would rather try to Help them. Than to say that their problems are Bogus. Or that they should be able to Fix it Themselves.

 

[herb]

lol. well ok then. btw, she has been a bottom feeder for 4-5 years. i also messed with it and could not get it to fire consistently.

Thats exactly what a thought , a long time REO owner i take it ?

 

[zoiDman]

Where are you located? I'm just outside Wichita KS, you pay shipping both ways, I'll assure you it works right when you get it back!

Right On sawlight.

 

[herb]

I'm just Not that Quick to Judge someone on what they Should of Shouldn't be able to do. And the Fact that Most of us Don't is what makes the ECF a Nice Place to be a Part of.

It just Doesn't Effect my Life if someone likes or doesn't like a Mod that I own.

I like my CV's. And would Recommend one to anyone who understands Ohms &Battery Safety who wants to get a Squonking Mod.

But, if someone has one, and for Whatever reason has a Problem, I wouldn't rather try to Help them. Than to say that their problems are Bogus. Or that they should be able to Fix it Themselves.

Have you been following all the responses and answers ? We ALL tried to help but Lazee answers before people even complete offering solutions , thats my problem .

I respect your opinion though , i am just not easily fooled .

 

[zoiDman]

Where are you located? I'm just outside Wichita KS, you pay shipping both ways, I'll assure you it works right when you get it back!

BTW - If He sends it to you, and you get it going for him, I'll pay Paypal you the Shipping Cost.