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could of been worst she could of been wearing ....ty shorts over her face
At least girls have 2 of them always ready to be used
Really!? Where does this information come from?
I just posted this question in another thread but is FT closed because of the virus? It didn’t seem like it on their website
They are shipping, so long as they have the items in stock. ETAs on out of stock items seem to be pushed out, I'm guessing many of their suppliers aren't fully back to work.
Right now, I'd only order "in stock" or "ships next day" items.
They may be shipping, but I'm not ordering until a package mailed 1/7 gets to me.
China Post shipping is very backed up.
Thanks to you both for the reply. A bunch of the stuff in my cart isn’t in stock. That makes sense that if they don’t have it, it would be problematic to get it. I think I’ll wait to order
I think it was a doctor who had worked on previous pandemics talking on TV. I guess I should have been a bit less definitive.
He said most of cases they had good information on, outside China, didn't have very serious symptoms. And it was spreading at a similar rate to a recent bad flu strain. At any rate it it doesn't hit as hard as Mers or Sars where all infected people had a big problem. It's all up in the air though since the info coming out of China can't be trusted.
The Problem with comparing Mortality is yes, the Same Number may die, but were they the Same type of Individuals?
A normally Health person in all but a 3rd world country has a Small Chance of dying from common Influenza's. It usually takes the Very Young. Or the Very Old. Or those who have an Already Compromised Immune System.
What is Scary is when average people of average health start Dying at rates seen by something like Flu.
I'd quote another source, or a 2nd source for Verification, but there Isn't really one.
Burden of Influenza
From what I have been seeing reported this virus seems to have an R0 factor of around 2-2.5 and a serious complication value of around 20% of infected patients...way higher than the flue. Also there is some speculation out there that the incubation period could be as long as 24 days and then there's the we can't really trust ANY info coming from China currently...then there is the cruise ship fiasco where quarantined folks are getting infected ...too soon to tell but this might be a really big deal if it keeps on keeping on...
I don't think anyone really knows the truth, no matter how much they think they do. The rabble has always been known to believe what is convenient for them to believe. Who's telling the truth? Chinese Govt? American Govt? American MSM?
lol Probably not.
How about these?
Harry Chen PhD (@IsChinar) | Twitter
lol Probably not.
How about these?
Harry Chen PhD (@IsChinar) | Twitter
The groups most susceptible and most likely to have higher complication rates isn’t entirely clear. Sure, underlying health matters, but the 34 year old Dr Li who got busted by the police for spreading rumors died from it. To date the mortality rate appears to be 2.4-2.7 percent. That makes it roughly 20 times deadlier than seasonal flu.
So why there do appear to be a significant population that may have only mild symptoms this is not so benign. Granted information still needs to be gathered, even if there is a doubling of cases when including those mild enough to be missed, it would still remain far more serious than seasonal or even pandemic influenza. However it does not seem yet to be as severe as Spanish influenza was. Maybe.
Real problem is that it was reported that a person who got infected then recovered is not protected and can be infected again and again soon after recovering - there is no strong immune reply like in case of many other infections. It is also complicating the vaccine production process.
A BIG problem with something like this is acquiring Accurate Numbers. Which is Hard enough in an Open Society.
What Many/Most health experts feel is that China has marginally Under-Reported the Fatality Numbers. But has Vasty Under-Reported/Estimated the infected numbers.
This would cause the Mortality percentage to go way Down.
If I got COVID-19, and are like just about everyone who does, I'm going to be Sick for a handful of days. Then I'm going to get better. And so my case would go Un-Reported.
Yeah, that is what I am worried about. Especially, since this stuff may have come from a biolab.
90% of vape gear comes from China. It stinks that this comes just a few months before the FDA regulations are going to start being enforced.
There is no evidence whatsoever that this was made in a biolab. If it was, they did a terrible job, as killing a bunch of old already sick people isn’t exactly a weapon that will win a war.
It's probably a part of a government plot to end vaping. <snicker>
Really though, the CDC says there's little to no risk from packages shipped by China. I'd still do a water wash or an alcohol wipe on anything in the box and trash the box as soon as it was empty. Then, I'd take off my gloves and breathe again.
I have four top fill kits coming from China for my new Kayfun 2019 attys.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-01-coronavirus-package-china.html
Yeah, accurate numbers are a problem. I just saw on TV, mortality rate for CV is 1%, for flu it's 0.1%. I've heard different numbers previously. Maybe the Chinese authorities don't even know about the majority of cases that have minor or no symptoms. If I was living there and I had a slight headache and mild cough I would stay home and keep my mouth shut. Like you said that would point to a much lower mortality rate and a much higher infection rate.
Scary thing is, even if CV doesn't turn out to be the big one, sooner or later it's probably going to happen.
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