Cotton vs Mesh juice consumption

[dhomes]

Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this,

With my REO, when I use cotton on the RM2 I find myself using some 7 ~ 10 ml a day

a few days ago I switched to a modified A7 with vertical SS Mesh, something I enjoy for some dark / tobacco juices

With the mesh and the same vape rate, a single bottle last me all day?

I've read that a a well broken in mesh provides better wicking than cotton (with a solid 2 ~ 2.5 mm 500 mesh you can see the juice running through it fast).

I also find myself not needed to feed juice until the A7 cup is flat-out dry

Anyone else seeing this? I may be the only REO user not using cotton exclusively

 

[Cactus Breath]

I haven't tried any other RBA/RDAs besides the RM2 with a micro coil and cotton wick - but I've certainly noticed that I go through about 10 ml per day with it (sometimes even more), which is significantly higher than the 5-7 ml/day I was usually using in carto tanks.

 

[dhomes]

I haven't tried any other RBA/RDAs besides the RM2 with a micro coil and cotton wick - but I've certainly noticed that I go through about 10 ml per day with it (sometimes even more), which is significantly higher than the 5-7 ml/day I was usually using in carto tanks.

never cared for the A7 until I had the idea of dremelling-out the feed tube to be flush with the deck, then about 5 days ago decided to try a sub-ohm build like I used to do with my Phoenixes.

I got to say, it's working wonders and a single bottle lasting me the whole day is just great!

alas, many flavors (sweet & fruit) taste cleaner with cotton, but I'm more of a tobacco juice and find myself liking them on mesh (just a matter of personal preference)

 

[jcalis1394]

Yep, if I hold back, 5 ml/day. If I vape as usual, easily can reach 10 ml. That's why I'm going more for DIY juices, BUT, I have an addiction to buying juices instead of making them. I don't know why . I want to start trying these "organic" juices such as virgin vapor, 100% VG. But yeah, definitely more juice consumption, but as long as it gives me equally juicy clouds, I'm happy.

I bought a bit of supplies for Banana juices, since I love that fruit, with what would cost me to get a 15ml juice I probably have enough to make close to 100ml myself.

 

[dhomes]

Yep, if I hold back, 5 ml/day. If I vape as usual, easily can reach 10 ml. That's why I'm going more for DIY juices, BUT, I have an addiction to buying juices instead of making them. I don't know why . I want to start trying these "organic" juices such as virgin vapor, 100% VG. But yeah, definitely more juice consumption, but as long as it gives me equally juicy clouds, I'm happy.

I bought a bit of supplies for Banana juices, since I love that fruit, with what would cost me to get a 15ml juice I probably have enough to make close to 100ml myself.

i got to say, ecblend's Banana flavor, double shot, was one lovely flavor for dripping

Also only one ordered Gorilla Juice, but call me unlucky as it was a 30 ml bottle of a bad batch that didn't have any taste whatsoever, since I live overseas I could not sent it back for replacement

too bad, love Bobbas and so far never gotten a bad one on that juice

 

[darkzero]

I may be the only REO user not using cotton exclusively

Nope, I never used cotton exclusively in my Reos or even RM2s. In fact I rarely use cotton in my Reos.

Nicohog called me an outlier & bohemian.

 

[Big Hitter]

I use mesh every day but I have so many damm devices going I have no idea how much juice I consume

I can say I don't feel like cotton vs silica was any different in consumption.

 

[dhomes]

I use mesh every day but I have so many damm devices going I have no idea how much juice I consume

I can say I don't feel like cotton vs silica was any different in consumption.

Tim, I don't use regular silica (I do use Ekowool for some drippers), just comparing cotton vs SS Mesh

 

[dhomes]

Nope, I never used cotton exclusively in my Reos or even RM2s. In fact I rarely use cotton in my Reos.

Nicohog called me an outlier & bohemian.

good to know DZ, I just have not read otherwise in any thread in the REO sub-forum since jioning (well, only one person who was talking about silica, but that I don't use)

So, what are you into?

 

[supertrunker]

i used a hybrid, mesh and cotton yarn horizontal wick that worked really well in A7s and RM2s for a while. It's a bit fiddly to set it up - but it wicks well and lasts as long as the yarn is not burned. I liked SS mesh, but not on its own because it could be a bit harsh with the TH. I think the main reason i liked using it is i like playing with a blowtorch.

I don't use cotton balls at all - usually it's silica and if i run my usual dual coils on those then i can go thru 12+ mg of juice a day easily.

T

 

[dhomes]

so there are more non-cotton reovillers than I thought!

 

[pdib]

I've used everything under the sun.


My opinion on the juice consumption . . . . . seeing as how the juice doesn't slip into an alternate universe . . . .. relates to "heat sink". The cotton is simply more efficient, in that more of the heat energy produced by the coil is transfered directly to phase change of the e-liquid to steam. More steam . . . . less hot ss mesh.

 

[darkzero]

good to know DZ, I just have not read otherwise in any thread in the REO sub-forum since jioning (well, only one person who was talking about silica, but that I don't use)

So, what are you into?

I use 1mm Ekowool with .055" & .063" ID micros.

 

[dhomes]

I use 1mm Ekowool with .055" & .063" ID micros.

Good, i use 2 and 3 mm ekowwol for some drippers, like it a lot better than silica

 

[dhomes]

I've used everything under the sun.


My opinion on the juice consumption . . . . . seeing as how the juice doesn't slip into an alternate universe . . . .. relates to "heat sink". The cotton is simply more efficient, in that more of the heat energy produced by the coil is transfered directly to phase change of the e-liquid to steam. More steam . . . . less hot ss mesh.

I have yet to try ceramic and steel wiresi admit

 

[Stringer63]

I run the RM2/micro/cotton exclusively on my grand, and I go through ~15ml of 5mg diy juice daily. Sure am glad I got into diy or I'd be even more broke than I am....

 

[pdib]

I have yet to try ceramic and steel wiresi admit

sorry, I'm confused. I thought you originally said that you consume less juice with ss mesh? You had compared 7-10ml to "less than a bottle" (?)

If, indeed, you go thru less juice with ss mesh than with cotton; I would guess that you are vaporizing less juice with the mesh . . . . . because the ss wick is robbing some of your heat energy.

If you are going through more juice with the mesh . . . .. . ahaaaaa . . . . interesting, yes.

 

[dhomes]

sorry, I'm confused. I thought you originally said that you consume less juice with ss mesh? You had compared 7-10ml to "less than a bottle" (?)

If, indeed, you go thru less juice with ss mesh than with cotton; I would guess that you are vaporizing less juice with the mesh . . . . . because the ss wick is robbing some of your heat energy.

If you are going through more juice with the mesh . . . .. . ahaaaaa . . . . interesting, yes.

yes, i use about half the same amount on liquid on mesh than on cotton

1 stock reo bottle last me until very late at night on mesh if i fill it up at about 6 ~ 7 am
same bottle about 6 hours on cotton, I refill one mid-day

Mesh would initially take some of the heat away from the coil, but unlike cotton, it heats up so after 1 ~ 3 seconds (depends on how thick) it actually gives heat feedback, one can actually see a kick in the vapor production after the small heat up period

people accustomed to genesis ussually fire up for 1 or 2 seconds before taking a drag due to this

 

[ed101z]

Nope, I never used cotton exclusively in my Reos or even RM2s. In fact I rarely use cotton in my Reos.

Nicohog called me an outlier & bohemian.

Dark, what do you use in the Reo? Do you use SS Mesh instead of Cotton? If so, please elaborate. I'm curious if it works good.

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Replying to the other posts:
I'm currently experimenting with a Vertical wick on the AGA-T2 using Cotton and SS Mesh.

Cotton: (1/16 drill bit Microcoil - 9/10 wraps for 1.8ohms - 3.8v)
It does fire faster, and the taste is good. The TH is not as strong using Cotton. I do notice it gets a brown/burntish color around the coil after about 3 hours. I can't really vape as long . I have to be careful due to fear of cooking the Cotton. Have to redo it IF I do cook it a little to much. And it often gets really thin while trying to pull it out. It then breaks off, and I have to dig the rest out.

SS Mesh: (3/32 drill bit Mini Coil - #400 SS Mesh cut to 1.5 x 1.75 squares - 6/7 wraps for 1.8ohms - 3.8v)
Does tend to take a millisecond longer to fire up, but once it's heated up... it vapes like a freight train with a strong TH, and good taste. Definitely No Fear of cooking it as opposed to the Cotton!! I don't taste metal at all like other folks have said. I think it goes back to how well the Mesh is oxidized. If it's blow torched really well (about 3 times) and allowed to cool down in between torching.... it gives a really CLEAN flavor. I mean nothing can survive the blow torching process because it gets about 800-1000 degrees in 5 seconds.

As far as wicking (something that saturates with liquid) goes, I'm using RY4 from MOV.
The Mesh DOES indeed saturate a lot faster than Cotton . In 20 seconds ...the Mesh is fully soaked in juice, and running down the coil.

All in all... Mesh may be harder to fool with in the beginning, but in the end... it seems to last longer. It certainly can withstand Heat much better than Cotton. And with the Minicoil on the 3/32 drill bit... and perfectly rounded Mesh -- I can spin in the coil when it's saturated with juice very easily. Twist it up, and dry burn the coil, and then spin the wet Mesh back in the coil (down the wick hole). I cannot do that with Cotton. I'll waste a lot of juice!!

I'll still experiment around with these two, but as of this moment... I won't throw either out the door just yet. However, it does look like I've had enough of experimenting with Cotton at this time. I put my Mesh in 30 min ago, and will give it a whirl all day to see how things go.

 

[dhomes]

Dark, what do you use in the Reo? Do you use SS Mesh instead of Cotton? If so, please elaborate. I'm curious if it works good.

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Replying to the other posts:
I'm currently experimenting with a Vertical wick on the AGA-T2 using Cotton and SS Mesh.

Cotton: (1/16 drill bit Microcoil - 9/10 wraps for 1.8ohms - 3.8v)
It does fire faster, and the taste is good. The TH is not as strong using Cotton. I do notice it gets a brown/burntish color around the coil after about 3 hours. I can't really vape as long . I have to be careful due to fear of cooking the Cotton. Have to redo it IF I do cook it a little to much. And it often gets really thin while trying to pull it out. It then breaks off, and I have to dig the rest out.

SS Mesh: (3/32 drill bit Mini Coil - #400 SS Mesh cut to 1.5 x 1.75 squares - 6/7 wraps for 1.8ohms - 3.8v)
Does tend to take a millisecond longer to fire up, but once it's heated up... it vapes like a freight train with a strong TH, and good taste. Definitely No Fear of cooking it as opposed to the Cotton!! I don't taste metal at all like other folks have said. I think it goes back to how well the Mesh is oxidized. If it's blow torched really well (about 3 times) and allowed to cool down in between torching.... it gives a really CLEAN flavor. I mean nothing can survive the blow torching process because it gets about 800-1000 degrees in 5 seconds.

As far as wicking (something that saturates with liquid) goes, I'm using RY4 from MOV.
The Mesh DOES indeed saturate a lot faster than Cotton . In 20 seconds ...the Mesh is fully soaked in juice, and running down the coil.

All in all... Mesh may be harder to fool with in the beginning, but in the end... it seems to last longer. It certainly can withstand Heat much better than Cotton. And with the Minicoil on the 3/32 drill bit... and perfectly rounded Mesh -- I can spin in the coil when it's saturated with juice very easily. Twist it up, and dry burn the coil, and then spin the wet Mesh back in the coil (down the wick hole). I cannot do that with Cotton. I'll waste a lot of juice!!

I'll still experiment around with these two, but as of this moment... I won't throw either out the door just yet. However, it does look like I've had enough of experimenting with Cotton at this time. I put my Mesh in 30 min ago, and will give it a whirl all day to see how things go.

Ed, darkzero uses ekowool

I use ekowool and cotton (lately more cotton) when i use the rm2

With a modified a7 (drill down the center feed tube to be flush with the deck, drill a 1/16" airhole in the wall) i use vertical mesh on the reo, i actually enjoy the flavor better for some dark or tobaco juices, and i'm finding that the juice last me longer

And since the bf nature of the reo my juice does not darkens up!