Coughing, Choking.. Scratchy Throat.

[Susaz]

To me changing clearomizers helped a lot. Or maybe change of juice. I´m vaping Halo PG, taken down with more glicerin on CE3 XL clearomizer. It made wonders for my cough!

 

[nujerzydevil]

Sounds like you're getting 'dry hits', the wicks may be pinched and not wicking very well; or the coil may not be formed well and you may be getting hot spots.
Just a few other things to consider.


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I've tried multiple heads on my Vivi Nova.. same result for all. I'm thinking either it's the juice or the Gripper itself.

 

[nujerzydevil]

Hey Devil, I've worked with the Vivi Nova before and I know what you're talking about, there could be a few reasons as to why you're getting those dry hits, but it sounds like it's mainly due to wicking issues, may I assume that you leave your PV standing upright whenever you're not vaping? Maybe you could try resting it flat down on the table whenever you're not vaping and when you do try to hold it at a 90 degree angle when you vape to help the wicking process, the thing about the Vivi Nova is that when the juice level hits below a certain level it won't wick very well unless you do the things mentioned above. It doesnt sound like you're having issues with PG as you've been vaping for a month. I would leave my PV upright when the juice is fully refilled but the moment it reaches half I would lay it down on the table. Also because Vivi Novas wicks aren't very thick make sure you aren't vaping it at too high a voltage vs the resistance you're using, that would cause you to get dry hits because the wicking material is thin, therefore the juice it holds is very little, and that limits the power you can vape at. If you want unlimited power to vaping I would suggest doing rebuidable tanks like the Odysseus or similar rebuidable products that use silica wicks, namely the new ones out are 3.5mm thick, compared to a Vivi nova it's roughly about 9 times thicker, so you can imagine how much more juice you can vaporize at one go. There're also videos that show you how to re-wick your Vivi Nova with thicker wicks on youtube that you could try out. I would say from what I've read it's definitely not your juice problem, dry, scratchy hits are a result of either the juice isn't wicking right or the power your vaping at is too high for the amount of juice that is being held around and close to the coiled area of the wick. Hope this helps.

When I'm in my house, It's usually standing upright.. When I'm in my car, it's laying down on it's side. This issue has happened in both instances. I always hold at a 90 degree angle when vaping and I usually tip completely upside down before vaping to ensure juice is all over inside the tank. This will also happen with a full tank.

 

[jjcordone]

IMHO - Since you're having the issue with the same PV and the same juice that wasn't giving you a problem before, the only thing that changed in the equation is the head aging. I think its called "Occam's Razor" the simplest reason is usually the correct one. I'd try swapping the head out for a new one and see if the problem is solved. Also, you might try cleaning the old head before you toss it out, maybe the coil is just gunked up...

 

[nujerzydevil]

Tell ya what, you may want to go to a bottom feeder.

I am one of those people who can't vape polyfill or wicks. Moved to bottom feeder, got RID of all those things standing between me and my juice. Atomizer, juice, battery , mod........that's it.

VG juice or mostly VG, thinned with distilled water.

I'm happy now.

Tracking down exactly "what" is bothering you is hard. That's why I just went in this direction

I was actually looking into bottom feeder mods before I found the Gripper. Only problem is that most need to be custom built and I don't have time to wait around. I may look more into it in the future though.

 

[nujerzydevil]

PG enhances TH and lung hit and is also an irritant in regards to the throat and lungs. Standards in the industry are 70/ 30 or 80/ 20 PG/ VG but some have a sensitivity to PG and vape a higher VG juice. Also if your Gripper is VV you may want to turn the voltage down. Some juices taste great at a low voltage while others really shine at a higher voltage. Try going from a low voltage and move up until you hit your sweet spot. I would most definitely only buy from a vendor that lists and/ or gives you a PG/ VG ratio choice.

When I got my prosmokes I never had this issue. And I believe their juice is 100% VG from johnson creek. So I may look into getting a definite whole VG based juice on my next order.

I usually vape between 3.0v and 4.0v.. Primarily 3.7.

Maybe I'm vaping "too low" for a 2.8ohm nova head?

 

[nujerzydevil]

IMHO - Since you're having the issue with the same PV and the same juice that wasn't giving you a problem before, the only thing that changed in the equation is the head aging. I think its called "Occam's Razor" the simplest reason is usually the correct one. I'd try swapping the head out for a new one and see if the problem is solved. Also, you might try cleaning the old head before you toss it out, maybe the coil is just gunked up...

But this has happened on brand new heads.. Actually, I don't believe a single one of my heads is nearly halfway to it's life expectancy. I never had this problem with my Prosmokes, I never had this problem when I was using the Gripper and these juices "and" going through detox. But now that my detox is over, it might just be affecting me more.

I'm still not really sure, I have alot of things to troubleshoot. Re-wick to cotton and get 100% VG juice will be my first 2.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

I vape 1.7 single coil cartos and 2.0- 2.4 clearos at 3.7- 4.2 volts.

When I got my prosmokes I never had this issue. And I believe their juice is 100% VG from johnson creek. So I may look into getting a definite whole VG based juice on my next order.

I usually vape between 3.0v and 4.0v.. Primarily 3.7.

Maybe I'm vaping "too low" for a 2.8ohm nova head?

 

[Jett1980s]

Alright, might be a solution for you that you can try out, this is just a personal opinion and different people have different likes. I personally like the delivery of the flavor on silica wicks, but with that said I'm using an Odysseus, before that I was using the Vivi Nova. Now you can try this and it might work for you, but for people who don't want the hassle of caring how their PV stands or holding it and tipping it and a certain angle when vaping or whatever it is, try a tank/cartomizer system. Basically this will eliminate the need for caring if your filler material is wet or not. The tank will store your liquid with the cartomizer in the middle, cartomizer will have holes punched in them, these cartomizers usually hold about 1-1.5ml of liquid in them excluding what you see in your tank. You basically just fill your tank up, let it sit for about 15-30min depending, let the juice feed into the hole/holes to fill up your filler material and you're good to go. Now the number of holes and the size of the holes are very dependant on individuals, this you will have to experiment on your own, pre punched holes I've read people preferring 2-3 holes, that's for pre punched, you can also enlarge the hole yourself by putting a needle to the hole and a hammer to it to enlarge it, keep in mind if you enlarge the hole yourself, do not make it too big as it will result in flooding. With that said you might want to try that out, just my 2 cents.

 

[Jett1980s]

This is a picture of an old setup I had when i started vaping, as you can see I've pulled the tank up, now mind you these aren't as accessible as Vivi Novas where you just screw the cap off and refill them, but they do work very well when you the hole ratios right, lots of different brands of tanks and cartomizers out there, so time to do your research! Hope this helps.



Just wanted to add this as a note, I've never had any dry hits with this while the tank is full or even empty, and even when its empty you can keep vaping on it until the juice inside the cartomizer has run out which is about 1-1.5ml of juice.

 

[jjcordone]

But this has happened on brand new heads.. Actually, I don't believe a single one of my heads is nearly halfway to it's life expectancy. I never had this problem with my Prosmokes, I never had this problem when I was using the Gripper and these juices "and" going through detox. But now that my detox is over, it might just be affecting me more.

I'm still not really sure, I have alot of things to troubleshoot. Re-wick to cotton and get 100% VG juice will be my first 2.

I went through the same thing. I switched to 100% VG and lowered the nic to 12mg. It really helped.
I've been using a 1.8ohm head at 4.0 volt. I hope this helps.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Actually in regards to PG enhancing TH/ lung hit and being an irritant I recently have been steadily lowering my nic content. I was vaping 60/ 40 PG/ VG and found, as I lowered my nic/ mg, there was very little TH/ lung hit. I changed my ratio to 70/ 30 and the TH and lung hit came back- just goes to show the power of PG and how the diff ratios can affect my vape. Now on 2 mg and my juice ratios is 80/ 20 PG/ VG and although not a mule kick I can still feel some TH/ lung hit/ irritant.

 

[DoritoStyle]

I definitively cough less after the switch from PG to pure VG; although I think I will be going to a mix soon as there is almost no throat hit for me from VG : )

 

[Ralikar]

1) I doubt it's the Vivi silica but I just posted a new easy mod to switch to cotton wicks. I have 2 mods out to help...

2) Try other juices. I loved Johnson Creek--it really smoothed things over for me... Can try a VG as posted--I hate VG.

3) Did your vendor change recipes/shipments? IMO chinese juice is horrible and when I switched to flavors--fruit/coffee like WoW it tore up my sinuses and throat. I blamed "your body is changing" --it was the flavors in the juice.

4) Sometime your body reacts to juice over time... I loved chocolate truffle by JC and over time it was too thick on my lungs and made me cough... Try lighter juices as well...

Remember, not all juice is equal in quality--the flavors not just the PG--and after some time if it doesn't sit with you something is wrong... try better quality juices, lighter ones, different vendors. The "your body is changing" may be right but may screw you--IMO Chinese juice quality and QC sucks--get some juice that works with your body. I spent 5 days blowing sinus blood into a Kleenex all day because I thought it was "my body is changing" it was my body can't take chemically/perfumey fruit flavors--JC fixed it in an hour. Not all juices are good quality or equal!

 

[freshbreath'92]

I agree there may be too much PG.. I only vape 100% VG or close to that these days, I experienced some of the same symptoms due to what I think is a sort of PG allergy

 

[nujerzydevil]

After further testing.. I think I've come to the conclusion that it's the juice.

I've been smoking with the ProSmokes all day for testing purposes.. No tanks, no wicks. Problem remains.

It's getting to the point where it's uncomfortable to vape. My throat is scratchy like when you get a cold and it sucks just to breathe. Good thing it only is like that when i vape and temporary.

Will be ordering pure VG ASAP.

 

[nujerzydevil]

Another $50 order on all VG juice of various flavors.

Now what to do with all this PG juice.. Isn't there a classifieds section on this site? I can't find it for the life of me.

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

Wishing the very best of luck to you. To use the Classies you have to become verified. Some complain BUT it was becoming a scammer's heaven with many good people getting ripped off.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ember-explained-more-detail-faq-included.html

Edit: Here's a better link:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-news/283955-how-become-verified-member.html

Another $50 order on all VG juice of various flavors.

Now what to do with all this PG juice.. Isn't there a classifieds section on this site? I can't find it for the life of me.

 

[chillywilly]

I just ordered some MsTs juice and it is really thick and has a high VG % she said. What is the best method of mixing this with distilled water? Or would it be better if I could get a hold of some pg? So thick it takes quite a while to soak into the carto.

 

[nujerzydevil]

Wishing the very best of luck to you. To use the Classies you have to become verified. Some complain BUT it was becoming a scammer's heaven with many good people getting ripped off.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ember-explained-more-detail-faq-included.html

Edit: Here's a better link:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/announcements-news/283955-how-become-verified-member.html

Thanks.. going through the verification process now but may just hold on to them for a little while in case this is just quitters throat or whatever it's called. I mean I'm just a few days short of a month, does the quitters throat last that long in some cases? Or is this purely my throat reacting to the PG?