Credit Where Credit Is Due: The Firsts

[tj99959]

Pretty scary times after the success of the Screwdriver. Market was flooded with battery tubes, I wouldn't even call most of them mods, haha. Cash grab. Made by people who either didn't know even the basics of electricity or who just didn't care about anyone's safety. Recommending shoving batteries(plural & undefined) into their tubes, attach whichever old atty to the end and...hit the switch! (Mouth guard and safety goggles sold seperately.)

A few exceptions, like the Silver Bullet, survived. Super T was also early in the game. Or the "Chuck"(Where's DC2?, haha). Puresmoker was a big name vendor back then, sold the Prodigy then the Protege, no clue what became of them. Or how I remember this

What's making me laugh every fudging time I see it, hahaha, searching the 2008 threads, haha, are vendors promoting "Check out our new My Space page!" Haha

This is what happened to Puresmoker:

Electric Cigarette Explodes in Fla. Man's Face - ABC News

All it took was one idiot buying unprotected cr123 batteries from Radio Shack to stack in his old Prodigy.

 

[snork]

Apparently David at Super-T invented the drip tip as we know it, with the o-ring and such.

Earliest mention: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/super-t-manufacturing/41359-mouthpiece.html

Release day: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tips-available-now-super-t-manufacturing.html

 

[Baditude]

This is what happened to Puresmoker:

Electric Cigarette Explodes in Fla. Man's Face - ABC News

All it took was one idiot buying unprotected cr123 batteries from Radio Shack to stack in his old Prodigy.

I remember this. The idiot using the wrong batteries in the Prodigy sued Puresmoker which allegedly bankrupted the business. Too bad, it was actually a very nice mod. A former co-worker of mine has one.

 

[techtony]

I'm surprised Baditude didn't mention the carto tank. I'm pretty sure it originated from members of this very forum. Modifying cartos with hypodermic syringe tubes. Research the MAP and J tanks.

I loved the MAP tank, I still have one!

 

[vapero]

As I see it these are the breakthroughs

-cigalikes -the most important as it's where it started
-e-liquid -no more prefilled
-mech battery holders -screwdriver?
-egos -more power to the masses
-clearos
-genisis -raidy
-regulated devices
-dripping atomizers
rebuildable drippers RDAs
RTAs -kayfun?
-bottom feeders -reo?
-the kick
I don't know who made what just trying to get a better understanding of the evolution then try to search for the individual points

edit: added the kick

 

[vapero]

did the darwin by evolve was the first regulated or the first "high power" regulated?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Apparently David at Super-T invented the drip tip as we know it, with the o-ring and such.

Earliest mention: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/super-t-manufacturing/41359-mouthpiece.html

Release day: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tips-available-now-super-t-manufacturing.html

I was wondering when someone was going to add this! LOL. Seems like such a simple piece of gear, but so necessary now. I remember when I first was wondering and asking people about exactly what a "driptip" was.

As I see it these are the breakthroughs

-cigalikes -the most important as it's where it started
-e-liquid -no more prefilled
-mech battery holders -screwdriver?
-egos -more power to the masses
-clearos
-genisis -raidy
-regulated devices
-dripping atomizers
rebuildable drippers RDAs
RTAs -kayfun?
-bottom feeders -reo?
-the kick
I don't know who made what just trying to get a better understanding of the evolution then try to search for the individual points

edit: added the kick

Appreciate this.

 

[Baditude]

I'm surprised Baditude didn't mention the carto tank. I'm pretty sure it originated from members of this very forum. Modifying cartos with hypodermic syringe tubes. Research the MAP and J tanks.

I was tired last night and retired early. I figured I'd post about cartotanks today.

It's true, allegedly the first cartotanks were homemade devices modified from medical syringes by folks right here on ECF. Best to my knowledge, the first mass produced cartotank was from Vaporescence. The quality of these tanks left much to be desired at the time as they were barely better than the homemade tanks.

Vaporescence cartotank


Then Smoktech came out with the DCT (dual coil cartotank). This was of better quality (not by much), but what is important from a historical standpoint is Smoktech included their new Dual Coil Cartomizer with these tanks. Before this there were only single coil cartos. The name DCT became synonymous with any cartotank made thereafter regardless of the manufacturer. Many who bought a DCT tank mistakenly believed you had to use a dual coil carto in these tanks, but single coil cartos work just as well (probably better) as dual coils. Funny that no other manufacturer makes dual coil cartos except for Smoktech, and I doubt that it is because of patent reasons. IMHO dual coils do not work as well as single coils. Then came tanks from other manufacturers like the MAP and J-Tanks.

Smoktech DCT cartotank


The above tanks were made of polycarbonate plastic, which is susceptable to certain flavors of juice physically degrading the plastic. These tanks would crack or melt when exposed to cinnamon, citrus, and other flavors. Something Safe for Cinnamon & Citrus Flavors

I believe the first pyrex cartotanks were made by Valley View Vapes. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-valley-view-tanks-7ml-pyrex-tank-review.html These were safe to use with the tank-cracking flavors. The first editions used gromets instead of endcaps, and eventually Ray began offering delrin and metal endcaps. These were my first pyrex cartotanks before I switched over to IBTanked when they became available a short time later. IBTanked Pyrex Cartotanks - Review Phiniac is another pyrex tank manufacturer which joined the market around this time.

Triple V pyrex tanks from Valley View Vapes

IBTanked pyrex cartotanks

Phiniac pyrex cartotanks

There is a huge thread that is stickied in the Tanks section here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tanks/228295-cartomizer-tank-master-list.html which if you start at the beginning will give you an idea of the progression of cartotanks as they were released on the market.

 

[tj99959]

I was tired last night and retired early. I figured I'd post about cartotanks today.

It's true, allegedly the first cartotanks were homemade devices modified from medical syringes by folks right here on ECF. Best to my knowledge, the first mass produced cartotank was from Vaporescence. The quality of these tanks left much to be desired at the time as they were barely better than the homemade tanks.

View attachment 355800 Vaporescence cartotank


Then Smoktech came out with the DCT (dual coil cartotank). This was of better quality (not by much), but what is important from a historical standpoint is Smoktech included their new Dual Coil Cartomizer with these tanks. Before this there were only single coil cartos. The name DCT became synonymous with any cartotank made thereafter regardless of the manufacturer. Many who bought a DCT tank mistakenly believed you had to use a dual coil carto in these tanks, but single coil cartos work just as well (probably better) as dual coils. Funny that no other manufacturer makes dual coil cartos except for Smoktech, and I doubt that it is because of patent reasons. IMHO dual coils do not work as well as single coils. Then came tanks from other manufacturers like the MAP and J-Tanks.

Smoktech DCT cartotank


The above tanks were made of polycarbonate plastic, which is susceptable to certain flavors of juice physically degrading the plastic. These tanks would crack or melt when exposed to cinnamon, citrus, and other flavors. Something Safe for Cinnamon & Citrus Flavors

I believe the first pyrex cartotanks were made by Valley View Vapes. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-valley-view-tanks-7ml-pyrex-tank-review.html These were safe to use with the tank-cracking flavors. The first editions used gromets instead of endcaps, and eventually Ray began offering delrin and metal endcaps. These were my first pyrex cartotanks before I switched over to IBTanked when they became available a short time later. IBTanked Pyrex Cartotanks - Review Phiniac is another pyrex tank manufacturer which joined the market around this time.

View attachment 355813View attachment 355818 Triple V pyrex tanks from Valley View Vapes

View attachment 355827 IBTanked pyrex cartotanks

View attachment 355833 Phiniac pyrex cartotanks

There is a huge thread that is stickied in the Tanks section here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tanks/228295-cartomizer-tank-master-list.html which if you start at the beginning will give you an idea of the progression of cartotanks as they were released on the market.

Oh and J-Tanks
ALL THE J TANKS IN ONE SPOT | ElectronicStix.Com.
J-tanks were not the first, but they were among the first. AND, the most copied.

 

[vapero]

from what I found, bottom feeders are an evolution of side feeders.

I think the UPAC (Ultimate Portability And Convenience) by MoonMan was the first attempt in 2009
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/modding-forum/17085-upac.html

the first true bottomfeeder was the juicebox by carlos

then came the Reo mini (left) and the ump (right) by 2010

here is may source
http://vapingguides.com/blog/the-wo...st-e-cigbig-guys-and-juice/wwv-part-v-page-6/

 

[Mr.Mann]

Great researching, vapero! I was wondering about that.

Does anyone know if there was a RDA before the GG Odysseus Drip Mode?

And was there an actual RTA before the iAtty?

 

[EbenezerScrews]

Good history, good read.

@vaprepro, man I remember that UPAC picture, haha, nice!

@tj, y'ouch. Puresmoker was one of those selling mods to people without clear direction, back in 2009 at least. I wasn't around the online ecig communities in 2012, so that may have changed. It may be common knowledge to some, but there are people who don't understand how batteries or electricity work. Selling a device that allows for, and is even recommended for stacked batteries without build-in protection is dangerous business. Is this what led the charge towards making AW branded batteries the "standard"?

Just to add and keep things rolling, atties in 2008 into 09 were all around 2.9ohm. The 510 was the first step towards lower resistance. There were no SR or LR labels yet, but the 510 came in at ~2.2ohm.

 

[Baditude]

Provape - an industry leader since their inception a few years ago. Well known for being a USA manufacturer creating extremely well built mods with the reputation for exceptional customer service.

Their first product was the Provape-1, a mechanical-style mod which included built-in protective circuitry like today's regulated mods, but without the voltage regulation. Whether you choose to call this a mechanical mod or not, it remains probably the safest mech-style mod made to date. It was the first mod to come with a timed safety cutoff, short circuit protection, reverse battery protection, a thermal monitoring system, amperage limiting, and a fail safe monitoring circuit. This was the forerunner to the Provari.

Why Provari? I've already discussed the Provari in the link provided. It was one of the first mods to offer variable voltage regulation in 2010, and they got it right out of the box. The Provari became the gold standard of regulated mods due to its build quality, workmanship, ruggedness, and dependability. It uses one of the best voltage regulation processors on the market. Some say it is getting long in the tooth compared to many of todays regulated mods, but it will always have a place in the market for those simple vapers who are looking for a dependable and durable mod that is well-supported by the manufacturer for life. A new Provari will be introduced sometime this year.

 

[rdwg]

The first RDA I remember seeing was the Ato-Miser from Nhaler

The Ato-Miser

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/149005-introducing-ato-miser-rebuildable-atomizer-little-miser-all-us.html

 

[EbenezerScrews]

Yes! I was looking for this thread, this guy, RjG, was way ahead of the game, credit is due:

Cigar Rebuild circa March '09

 

[vapero]

The first RDA I remember seeing was the Ato-Miser from Nhaler

The Ato-Miser

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/nhaler/149005-introducing-ato-miser-rebuildable-atomizer-little-miser-all-us.html

great find! it's actually a really nice looking rda!

 

[Mr.Mann]

Wow.

Nice find on the eCigar rebuild too! Yeah, he gets credit!

 

[EbenezerScrews]

Ok, this does not fit into the "innovative breakthrough" category, but I do think the work put into this by Nicowolf really helped many people understand how ecigs worked whether or not they built one themselves. The discussion also helped stress the importance of battery safety. In my opinion, this helped snuff out many of the cheapo half-***ed mods being sold at the time allowing the quality devices to flourish.

How To: Build a Nicostick

Discussing the Nicostick

 

[Mr.Mann]

Does anyone have any knowledge (or even guesses) about what was the first Hybrid (rebuildable/mech) mod? I was thinking Katana at first, but then I don't think so. Zenesis, iHybrid, Katana and Orion were all out around the same time (and I remember them all from that time), but one had to have been first, right?

Also, what was the first telescoping mech mod? All I could think of was the Empire Mod, but once again, not banking on that.

 

[six]

Nice to see you, BuzzKill. Here. Here is the very moment in history that you decided VV/VW was the future of e-cigs and that you should do something about it.... credit where credit is due, man. Good on you.