Hi Scott thanks for the explanation of what is meant when they say cheap Chinese knock off. Perhaps you are correct and that is the intent.
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Hi Scott thanks for the explanation of what is meant when they say cheap Chinese knock off. Perhaps you are correct and that is the intent.
Most of us don't knock their products, we just knock their QC. They can make a great product, but often very inconsistently.
I agree. Speaking of which what happened to Japan? Those guys used to make everything AND with very high quality. Just look at what they have done in the auto industry. They jumped in and produced cars that not only cost less than American they were also about 5000% more reliable. As a result, American car companies have had to go back to the drawing board and make their products more dependable. I would personally love to see what they could do with eCigs.
Not now, but it was during the late 1800's when they were frying elephants to try and prove DC was better than AC. Poor circus animal anyway. Aren't you glad their stunts against AC didn't work, otherwise we would have a power plant everywhere there is a stop light.
LOL, now don't get me started. I prefer American made vehicles and now many named brand Japanese vehicles are made in the US. As well many parts that go into an American vehicle are made in Japan. I may not have a provari, but I love my charger.. 2011 dodge... not nitcore wall. Welcome to the global economy.
Excellent post!
Bottom line fer all da naysayers: just don't buy overseas vaping products and see where your health and your wallet wind up!
Bottom line fer all da naysayers: just don't buy overseas vaping products and see where your health and your wallet wind up!
The main issue with Chinese QC is that they throw labor at complex production issues - this causes variation in their products. If the same product were made in the US, it would be highly automated, resulting in standard quality.
What they do in China is they make and inspect, reject, rework, reinspect... etc. You cannot inspect quality into a product, it has to be there in the manufacturing process. That is why you get a lot of variation in Chinese quality.
As more and more US retailers and resellers buy goods made in China (and other under-developed countries) we will see that conditions have to improve, which will drive labor costs up, which will, in turn, mean higher automation and better quality.
I might have over-simplified, but I have seen this happen as manufacturing moved from the UK to North Africa and from the US to Mexico and Central America as well as to China.
American car companies actually employed Japanese consultants to help them implement the Toyota Production System - resulting in higher quality and lower costs for US manufacturers.
Yeah the lines are definitely blurred these days with cars. I remember back in around 1994 a good friend of mine asked me to go car shopping with him. he wanted to buy American and was really looking at the Eagle Talon. When we started reading the label we discovered that it was 50% Domestic and 50% Foreign. We thought that was crazy and decided to check out the Mitsubishi Eclipse (the sister car to the Talon). The Eclipse was 60% Domestic and 40% Foreign for basically the Foreign branded version of the SAME car!
It's hard to determine what is American anymore for sure. My Dodge Ram is made in Saltillo, Mexico. My friend has a Toyota Tundra, made just up the street in San Antonio, Texas.
Buy Dodge and give money to American CEO's and keep some Mexicans in jobs, or buy Toyota and give money to Japanese CEO's and keep Americans in jobs.
I wish BMW made a truck...
Buy Dodge and give money to American CEO's and keep some Mexicans in jobs, or buy Toyota and give money to Japanese CEO's and keep Americans in jobs.
I wish BMW made a truck...
I'm actually in the market for a new used car like 2006-7. It's gotta be a gm product because my FIL is a retired mechanic for a utility company and only knows gms for the most part. I know most of the parts will be Chinese already lol.
Yeah it kind of reminds me of one of the best lines from the movie Armageddon: "Components. American components, Russian Components, ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!"
My only complaint with the China stuff is they don't want to stand behind what they make. They love selling it to us but warranty is a dirty word to 99% of them.
Because it doesn't make economic sense to their bean counters. They'd rather make another 100 widgets than have to employ someone to actually give a dang about customers. Most of the factories over there have buyers that sell their products for them - so they just keep churning out product until the buyers stop buying... But the buyers keep buying because selling widgets at $4 per hundred instead of $14 per hundred and still making a profit - there will always be retailers willing to buy.
Walmart would rather honor the product at their end than demand higher quality standards from their suppliers - it's just the way it make most economic sense to them.
Sorry, I could go on all night about this topic...
What do you mean? They give a 14 day warranty on almost everything!
YES!! And I think it starts from the time they ship it until it gets here 15 days later! LOL it usually costs more to ship it back to them than to buy another one too!
Your 2011 Charger was assembled in Ontario, Canada. The engine is probably made in Mexico (a few are made here in the US). The transmission was more than likely made in Indiana from German parts (some of them are 100% made in Germany). Some components were made in China.
Global indeed. At least you know it is made from at least 75% US components, otherwise it would be classed and taxed as an import.
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