Cyclone bf questions.

[Cavere]

I'm looking into getting a reo and I love my vicious ant Cyclone with AFC. I'm away on vacation right now so I don't have it to look at. But are all of them bf ready? I know it has the screws that look hollow in the middle. I'm just curious because I could save not having to buy another attempt.

If not where is the cheapest place u could get a bf Cyclone and just use my afc cap? Or are there any other bf drippers the cap would fit on?

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[Ray22]

I'll answer what I can. There are two variants of the cyclone: a normal dripper and a bf. The way to know as always, is the conector at the 510 base should have a hole to let liquid move up to where the second difference is: two holes at the center post. Easy to know if it's bf or dripper.

Also, the AFC is not compatible with the stock Reo. You have to ask Robert to mill the base, for which he will charge you +20$. Others might be able to answer the other questions .

 

[custom-classic]

You can buy it bf from here: Cyclone Rebuildable Atomizer by Vicious Ant Precision Engineering and Research - Cyclone Rebuildable Atomizer Information

Or, you can DIY like this:



Details on how here in post #67: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/492768-milled-catch-cups-oversized-atomizers-7.html

Like Ray said, the afc cap won't go all the way down on a stock Reo without the catch cup milled down like this:

 

[FEEDER]

Cyclone is all I use, as said byRay22, the bf cyclone has two holes in one of the posts, & has a hole in the centre of the 510 connection
You can use the standard cap with a reo, if you want to use the AFC, you have to either use a 510/510 adapter, or get the reo catchcup milled down
Across here the cheapest I've seen them, is £39
Frank

 

[Cavere]

Well this looks like more work and money than anticipated... So getting the catch cup milled looks like a good idea regardless?

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[Ray22]

Well this looks like more work and money than anticipated... So getting the catch cup milled looks like a good idea regardless?

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If you plan on using the cyclone with AFC, definately yes. Good thing about Cyclone + AFC is it lets you do much more different setups. You can still get a Reomizer to sit flush on it (unmilled RM2.0, totally recommended BTW), plus with the milled cup it will work with any atomizer (be it BF or not). Once the new contacts are out, that means one of the most powerful box mods out there for non BF atties, and the Cyclone will also beneffit when using dual coils/ extreme fog-machine kind of setups. I believe it's a win-win

 

[sectopod]

Hi

I've Cyclone and I did a microcoil cotton 2.2 ohm, im a bit worried how many times I've to squonk ?

Cause if I dont do enough , if cotton gets burned then im ....ed, and Ive to redo the wick cause it will taste bad all time right ?

Any tips on how to do the microcoil with cyclone ? position and such ?

thanks )

 

[Crash Moses]

Hi, Sectopod (what an awesome moniker).

For me...I like to get the coil as close to the air hole as possible and then adjust the height up or down to adjust TH and flavor (I like it right in front of the hole).

As for the cotton wick...I make a nice long wick that sticks out both ends and then I make a nice bed of cotton. The extra cotton will hold more juice than the small deck of the Cyclone and give you more hits between squonks. For a single coil I like the ohms right around 1.2. For dual-coils with the AFC I shoot for around .5 with 28 guage but it's totally possible to do a dual-coil at 1.2 with 32 guage.

As for the cotton burning...that just comes with practice. Usually I can tell when to squonk because the flavor starts to taper off.

 

[sectopod]

I tryed to put a lot of cotton, but it wasnt coming any vape first, then just tiny clouds and no taste at all.

I tryed 4-5 time without any success except first time when it burned fast.

I tryed with silica now and after few vapes smell of burn, I squonk after 2 hits =(

 

[Crash Moses]

Okay...we can fix this.

1. Is the air hole right in front of the coil?

2. Are you sure juice is making it into the Cyclone? You may have to fiddle with the tube as it sometimes gets stuck.

3. 2.2 ohms may be too high. Trying building a coil in the 1.5 ohm range.

4. What guage wire are you using? Can you send pictures of your coil?

 

[sectopod]

I tryed again, Air hole sit in front of the RES, I putted liquid on the wick, then squonked, big hit that taste nothing and 0 clouds at all like im not smoking

-.-

 

[Crash Moses]

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I tryed again, Air hole sit in front of the RES, I putted liquid on the wick, then squonked, big hit that taste nothing and 0 clouds at all like im not smoking

-.-

The pictures help...I believe we have a language issue. But that's okay...

Let's forget the word squonk for now...I'm pretty sure I know what you think it means but it doesn't mean what you think that I think it means (did I mention language issue?)

Your coil looks okay and while that's a lot of cotton it should still perform okay so let's get back to basics. I think you're ohms are a little high and it's taking the Provari too long to heat everything up.

Try building a single coil at 1.5 ohms. Your Provari will be able to fire that fine. When you wick it just use a little cotton...about half of what you have in the picture. Make sure your airhole is right in front of the coil. Add some juice. Vape it. Report back.

 

[sectopod]

Sorry forgot to say, im using sunbox e7

Provari is there just to test ohms eheh

Well it started to work better when i moved a bit the air hole around.

Im at 2.2 ohm, will try lower.

How ppl use from 10 to 12 watts on box, on provari they suggest to not going over 4.2 with 2 ohm res

 

[FEEDER]

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I tryed again, Air hole sit in front of the RES, I putted liquid on the wick, then squonked, big hit that taste nothing and 0 clouds at all like im not smoking

-.-

From the middle picture you've posted, you've got the coil leg, in the bottom hole, of the centre post, it needs to be in the top hole, so the juice can squonk easier,
Doing this will also improve the vapour, & taste etc
Frank

 

[FEEDER]

You also need to. Make the legs slightly longer, & lift the coil up, so that it's at least level with the. Air hole in the side of the top cap
Try those things, then let us now how your getting on
Frank

 

[Crash Moses]

Sorry forgot to say, im using sunbox e7

Provari is there just to test ohms eheh

Well it started to work better when i moved a bit the air hole around.

Im at 2.2 ohm, will try lower.

How ppl use from 10 to 12 watts on box, on provari they suggest to not going over 4.2 with 2 ohm res

The Provari is regulated and won't go higher than that. What batteries are you using?

 

[sectopod]

thanks all of you for the help.

OK , so yes maybe you dont see in the picture but im using the top hole already, I will try to make it a bit longer and at same level of air thanks

Pictures are with provari but im using it on SUNBOX E7, just bought it, it promised to be better then my kayfun provari, but ATM, provari + lkayfun Vertical coil chimney style hits much harder and has better flavor.

Hope didnt waste money on that box + cyclone, will try tomorrow to make those changes thanks!

 

[Crash Moses]

No worries...I'm not familiar with the Sunbox.

I can, however, qualitatively recommend a Reo Grand or Reo Grand VV. I know those will work. Maybe white with a green door and a red drip tip for the Italian flag? Rob ships internationally...

 

[sectopod]

thanks but sunbox are pretty rare, and are a bit better even then reo. they cost also more.

But here problem is for cyclone, any box with dna20 work good.

 

[Crash Moses]

No worries, sectopod.

Let us know how it turns out. I'm curious to know what the solution is...I absolutely love the Cyclone with AFC...it's gotta be something simple.