D/AP concerns. Vocal minority?

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Elizabeth Baldwin

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Sorry poster no, analogs have up to 1500ppm of diacetyl some upwards of 3000 depending on curing theres been some e joos in a 3ml sample above 2300ppm. Thats a 3ml sample @ 2300ppm in a 30-50-100ml bottle it surpasses a whole pack of analogs.. Some vapers vape 50+ml a day...

So you say eh? Post proof! I posted research. You do the same or it's hearsay. Just because you claim it or heard it doesn't make it fact. Proof or it isn't true.
 

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And sure there are outliers, people who vape way more than norm. There's also people who abuse drugs. Those aren't the norm. Anyone who uses way more than normal is going to have higher risks no matter what it is. Thats just common sense. If a smoker smokes 5 packs a day he's also over doing it.
 

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So you say eh? Post proof! I posted research. You do the same or it's hearsay. Just because you claim it or heard it doesn't make it fact. Proof or it isn't true.
You can make your own observations however you want.. If one person who is health conscious has a lick of sense they can see your post for what they are. Im chatting with a health conscious person and they as i do not want any diacetyl in my or their vape. Do what you like. The research has been done for many years now..

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You can make your own observations however you want.. If one person who is health conscious has a lick of sense they can see your post for what they are. Im chatting with a health conscious person and they as i do not want any diacetyl in my or their vape. Do what you like. The research has been done for many years now..

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I know. I Posted research above!
 

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I know. I Posted research above!
Tobacco cigarettes smoke contains both compounds, at levels 100 times higher for diacetyl and 10 times higher for acetyl propionyl compared to e-cigarette average daily exposure.

That paper was constructed of tests done on a small variety of eliq not the mass of eliquid saturating the market and definitely not any 5p liquids. Yes 100 times is not a huge number in this type of scientific data, your not privvy to understand what 100 times means in this case. Your reading as an unscientific resolution. Sorry poster 100 times is like nothing in terms of ppm measurements.. Its funny I missed that you had loaded that paper Dr Farsalina's or any scientist would laugh their .... off because your assuming 100 is huge...

For exaample I take a cup of distilled water measure the ppm its 0, if I add one drop of vinegar its now 1000ppm. So that one drop of vinegar is 1000 times more parts than the water.. 100 times is so low a figure I am sorry you are confused there but ya are...
 

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Tobacco cigarettes smoke contains both compounds, at levels 100 times higher for diacetyl and 10 times higher for acetyl propionyl compared to e-cigarette average daily exposure.

That paper was constructed of tests done on a small variety of eliq not the mass of eliquid saturating the market and definitely not any 5p liquids. Yes 100 times is not a huge number in this type of scientific data, your not privvy to understand what 100 times means in this case. Your reading as an unscientific resolution. Sorry poster 100 times is like nothing in terms of ppm measurements.. Its funny I missed that you had loaded that paper Dr Farsalina's or any scientist would laugh their .... off because your assuming 100 is huge...

For exaample I take a cup of distilled water measure the ppm its 0, if I add one drop of vinegar its now 1000ppm. So that one drop of vinegar is 1000 times more parts than the water.. 100 times is so low a figure I am sorry you are confused there but ya are...

You are wrong. It states specifically what it means. You are right in a sense but wrong. It states it clearly.

Of course it's a small sample. There's no way they could test the entire market. It's a sample.
 
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You are wrong. It states specifically what it means. You are right in a sense but wrong. It states it clearly.

Of course it's a small sample. There's no way they could test the entire market. It's a sample.
Elizabeth its written in scientific terms and is easily misunderstood by someone like yourself who has no idea about a scientific paper. It's hilarious actually, sorry but it is... Yes it states exactly what it means...
 

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It takes 100 pennies to make 1 dollar it takes 100 dollars to make 1 hundred thats how your thinking of the 100 times logistics. In science 100 is a very small fractional one small drop or contamination can change that fractional huge.. No worry of it even being close to an analog would have been posted as 100000 to 10000000000 times.. The diacetyl in analog is at an acceptable legal rate for consumer to imbibe so yes e joos is a bit more safer but not by much..
 

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It takes 100 pennies to make 1 dollar it takes 100 dollars to make 1 hundred thats how your thinking of the 100 times logistics. In science 100 is a very small fractional one small drop or contamination can change that fractional huge..

Duh! Really? I think most people know that!

Are you assuming people are dumb or uneducated? I actually have a BA.
 
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Funny thing is I've been researching the study I posted. And it seems you have no idea what you are talking about. Every where scientist and other vendors are looking at the study as I did.

Hold on and I will back up what I say:
Ok you wanna make us laugh more than carry on.. I educated ya on how to read that and yet you still wanna go look around.. Have at it but please ask a scientist how to read it 1st. No wait if you know someone who does hydroponics they can read that clearly.. There's no other way to read it but correctly. :lol: He even clearly states there is a worry about it but not a huge concern and it's because of that fact. Im done here, like I told ya you can make your own observations but there's only one way to read that and its not how you expect it since you do not understand the verbatim.. :spam:
 

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"Apart from the tar, carbone monoxide and thousands of known carcinogens, cigarette smoke also contains about 100 times more diacetyl than what Dr. Farsalinos found in the worst offending e-liquids he tested. No, smoking is definitely not a safer alternative, not by a long shot." - See more at: Diacetyl in E-Cigarettes, Should You Be Worried? | E-Cigarette Reviews and Rankings

Excuse me but you need educated. Nobody is laughing but you. You need to go study more. You apparently missed a few classes.

Do you see the quote above? There's thousands like that. Nobody looks at that study like you do. Only you. A study will list ppm or how it measures. You can't assume. It is what it is and it means what it says.
 
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