DC Circuit affirms Phillip Morris case giving major victory for plaintiffs in tobacco suits nationwide

[LUX Vaporer]

Here is something I found this morning. It shows that thier lawyers can be beat. Check it out SMOKEISAJOKE.COM: DC Circuit affirms Phillip Morris case giving major victory for plaintiffs in tobacco suits nationwide

Adam G

 

[lvlninety9]

Good to see Big tobacco taking a hit. Just wondering what this could do for us though. It seems promising and could imply that Big tobacco is putting the pressure on to keep us from having e-cigs. Guess we'll have to see how things play out.

 

[LUX Vaporer]

I don't think it really does anything for e-cigs, however it does show that BT can be slapped in a court of law. To a certain extent atleast.

 

[LaceyUnderall]

Well... it might do one thing. I was on Dr. Siegel's blog just now and in a recent post he discusses this... what it does possibly do is arm the groups against us with even more money to start attack campaigns on the ecig. From his post:
Appeals Court Upholds Denial of Monetary Remedies in Department of Justice tobacco Lawsuit
"To refresh our memories, the Department of Justice, along with several intervening anti-smoking organizations --the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, the American Heart Association, the American Lung Association, the American Cancer Society, and Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights -- had requested three monetary remedies: (1) a national anti-tobacco counter-marketing campaign (to be administered by the American Legacy Foundation or a similar organization); (2) a national smoking cessation program; and (3) a youth smoking reduction program, where companies would have to pay fines if youth smoking prevalence did not drop by specified amounts."
"The Appeals Court upheld the district court's decision to disallow all three types of monetary remedies that were requested by the government and the anti-smoking groups."
The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary

Now, you will note that the ALA, ACS, and ANR want to give the money to the American Legacy Foundation (truth.org). And you will all remember Cheryl Heaton on the morning show who came out hard against the ecig. These are hard core "use NRT's or die smoking" groups.

 

[lvlninety9]

Yeah I really don't like that "use NRT's or die smoking" comment. To me that's tantamount to genocide. A country that is supposed to be based on certain freedoms this is really disturbing. Our country is based on the conceived notion that we all have the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. Well all these government agencies, politicians, and all the uneducated misguided masses are infringing on my right to the pursuit of happiness. E-cigs are an alternative to smoking which cuts out a lot of the more deadly chemicals, I won't say all, out of my desire to have a "smoke." I just pose one question. When did we all decide that we need government and big business needs to decide what is best for us?

 

[LaceyUnderall]

Yeah I really don't like that "use NRT's or die smoking" comment. To me that's tantamount to genocide. A country that is supposed to be based on certain freedoms this is really disturbing. Our country is based on the conceived notion that we all have the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. Well all these government agencies, politicians, and all the uneducated misguided masses are infringing on my right to the pursuit of happiness. E-cigs are an alternative to smoking which cuts out a lot of the more deadly chemicals, I won't say all, out of my desire to have a "smoke." I just pose one question. When did we all decide that we need government and big business needs to decide what is best for us?

I feel the exact same way. Very well said.

 

[RatInDaHat]

the problem is the stupid masses. "we" as e-smokers have a smaller voice than the many who can be scared into a decision. It is easy to scare people in an effort to make them vote in a specific way. The informed are the minority. Too bad the government is run by so many uninformed people. This applies to much more than e-cigs of course. this is also just my opinion.