Dear Abby hates E-Cigs!
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Its still all of the above. Big tobacco will still sponsor bills in state legislatures requiring sales of ecigs through licensed wholesalers only and the banning of online sales, Big Pharmacy of course because they have invested many dollars in research for their products, tobacco control to justify their salaries as well as hidden participants such as the top 25 wholesalers in the country who actively lobby state legislatures regularly for favorable tobacco legislation and convenience store associations that would love to see an online ban.
OK, first, let's make sure that nobody misunderstands what Abby said when she answered the question. The question was asked by a non-vaper who worked in an office where two people vaped, so when Abby said that that "you are not in danger" she was stating that there is no hazard from second-hand vapor.
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DEAR ABBY: I work in a small office with two former heavy smokers who have now transitioned to vapor/e-cigarettes. My concern is that they smoke their e-cigarettes in the office constantly, and I don't know what chemicals I am now breathing secondhand.
Both of them are senior to me in rank and age, and they pooh-pooh the notion that anything but water vapor is being exhaled. Am I making something out of nothing, or should I be worried about this? -- CLEAN AIR
DEAR CLEAN AIR: You don't have anything to worry about, but your co-workers may. In 2009, the FDA announced the findings from a laboratory analysis that indicated that electronic cigarettes expose users to harmful chemical ingredients, including carcinogens. However, those elements were not detected in exhaled vapor.
While we're educating Abby, we also need to educate the vaping co-workers of the person who asked the question. Evidently these vapers mindlessly repeated the oft-told lie that vapor from e-cigs is just "water vapor". I bought that load of hooey myself for a short while. It is NOT water vapor, unless all you've got in your device is water.
In fact, it can't be water, since atomization does not chemically alter your ejuice, it just vaporizes it. Nor does your body chemically alter the components although it may add to them with things that are already in your body. Vapor from e-cigs consists of vaporized vegetable glycerin and/or propylene glycol plus nicotine and flavoring, in basically the same percentages that they exist in your ejuice. None of those things are water except for whatever percentage of water may already be in the juice plus whatever small percentage is added by your own physiology. Somewhere on this site is a scientific analysis of vapor which verifies these logical truths. Pointing out the relative harmlessness of what's in our vapor is one thing, but lying about it isn't going to benefit anyone.
The current "Dear Abby", by the way, is the daughter of the original writer of the column, and neither one of them is named Abby.
Here is the article:
DEAR ABBY: I work in a small office with two former heavy smokers who have now transitioned to vapor/e-cigarettes. My concern is that they smoke their e-cigarettes in the office constantly, and I don't know what chemicals I am now breathing secondhand.
Both of them are senior to me in rank and age, and they pooh-pooh the notion that anything but water vapor is being exhaled. Am I making something out of nothing, or should I be worried about this? -- CLEAN AIR
DEAR CLEAN AIR: You don't have anything to worry about, but your co-workers may. In 2009, the FDA announced the findings from a laboratory analysis that indicated that electronic cigarettes expose users to harmful chemical ingredients, including carcinogens. However, those elements were not detected in exhaled vapor.
While we're educating Abby, we also need to educate the vaping co-workers of the person who asked the question. Evidently these vapers mindlessly repeated the oft-told lie that vapor from e-cigs is just "water vapor". I bought that load of hooey myself for a short while. It is NOT water vapor, unless all you've got in your device is water.
In fact, it can't be water, since atomization does not chemically alter your ejuice, it just vaporizes it. Nor does your body chemically alter the components although it may add to them with things that are already in your body. Vapor from e-cigs consists of vaporized vegetable glycerin and/or propylene glycol plus nicotine and flavoring, in basically the same percentages that they exist in your ejuice. None of those things are water except for whatever percentage of water may already be in the juice plus whatever small percentage is added by your own physiology. Somewhere on this site is a scientific analysis of vapor which verifies these logical truths. Pointing out the relative harmlessness of what's in our vapor is one thing, but lying about it isn't going to benefit anyone.
The current "Dear Abby", by the way, is the daughter of the original writer of the column, and neither one of them is named Abby.
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Both will be behind the scenes forcing the FDA to eventually enact some regulations on this industry.
I will certainly be watching for Abby's response. Hopefully, she will retract and correct. The 2009 FDA study was also limited in scope and drew unwarranted conclusions. It is also very outdated, but until a better study is done, it will continue to be quoted.
There are a lot of better studies that have been done, and have been for some time now.
Besides that, the FDA study was very effective in proving that electronic cigarettes are not harmful.
The problem was not so much with the study, but with the deceitful way that the FDA portrayed those results.
In a world without lies, the FDA study would be being cited as showing that vaping is harmless.
We actually might be lucky that it was Jeanne, the daughter that took over Dear Abby who answered this, rather than her mother, the late Pauline Phillips. The information given could have been much worse otherwise. Listed by her pen name, Abigail Van Buren, both Pauline and her sister (Ann Landers, aka Esther Lederer) are identified as Sponsors/Trustees Emeritus for one particularly rabid ANTZ group. You know the one, it's initials spell out what you have left over after burning something, rhymes with bash?
I contacted Hangsen (popular eliquid manufacturer in china) last night because I have switched over to using their nic-liq. I asked them about the safety of their products. Here is what they had to say "“HS (Hangsen) e-liquid is extracted naturally from tobacco. It does not contain ANY harmful substances and does not produce second-hand smoke. HS e-liquid has obtained SGS/MSDS TUV VOM certificates with high Quality Assurance (very few can say this).
Also registered with the FDA.
Very strict standards and every batch is tested for quality. Our e-liquid does not contain DEG. They have extracted the natural ingredient with high difficulty techniques to ensure excellence and safety!"
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So I'd really like to see some current FDA articles instead of people bringing up outdated material!
Also registered with the FDA.
Very strict standards and every batch is tested for quality. Our e-liquid does not contain DEG. They have extracted the natural ingredient with high difficulty techniques to ensure excellence and safety!"
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So I'd really like to see some current FDA articles instead of people bringing up outdated material!
The AAPHP released a statement that electronic cigarettes “
could save the lives of 4 million of the 8 million
current adult American smokers who will otherwise die
of a tobacco-related illness
over the next 20 years." enuff said!
could save the lives of 4 million of the 8 million
current adult American smokers who will otherwise die
of a tobacco-related illness
over the next 20 years." enuff said!
Perhaps Dear Abby, her readers, and the general public should also be aware that the ecigarette ingredient propylene glycol is used in nebulizers and inhalers that treat people who have respiratory problems. My mother was diagnosed with COPD in her late sixties (She wasn't a smoker, but my father was.). She used a nebulizer and inhalors containing propylene glycol until she died at the age of ninety. Do you supposed the treatment hastened her demise?
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